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October 2007

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--- Antonio Baruffaldi --- hey, this is cf38, the guy who tidied the Antonio Baruffaldi‎ article. Fair enough about the 'famous' part, but you don't really think he was famous? By the way, I like the fact that you exert a lot of your energy onto painters. Nice one, we need more specific-subject users like you to help out. Keep it up mate!;)

Cf38 16:37, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Francisco de Aguirre

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Hey, thanks for your contributions...humanities have traditionally been underrepresented in wikipedia and your participation in the project is thus even more welcome! It seems that you're new here, and I just wanted to point out that there's a better way to do moves than they way you moved Francisco de Aguirre to Francisco de Aguirre (conquistador), which I'm guessing was by cutting and pasting the text. Namely, it's by using the "Move" tab, located at the top of the article to the right of "Edit this page" and "History". If you use this handy thing, the page history and talk page will be moved to the new location as well, instead of being marooned at the old spot. I've temporarily undone your edit, which will be restored the proper way once a administrator gets around to it. Anyway, thanks again for your contribution! Erudy 19:19, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to second the above, as I notice you're still replacing existing articles with redirects to newly-created articles on the same topic. Please don't do this, but rather, use the "move" button. It's a good deal simpler than fixing it afterwards, as is necessary to maintain the page history. (See Wikipedia:cut and paste moves for the details of that.) Alai 22:57, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nice to see new articles on Italian architecture! A couple of questions about this one, though. Firstly shouldn’t it be del Carmine rather than del Carmini? Secondly I think di Venezia looks a bit odd in an English-language encyclopedia: it’s not really part of the title of the building, rather it’s a description of where it is to disambiguate it from other churches with the same name. So, if I am right on the first point, I’d be tempted to move the article to Santa Maria del Carmini (Venice). What do you think? Cheers. —Ian Spackman 05:20, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Santa Maria del Carmini (Venice). 1) The name used is Carmini. 2) I agree with moving the title to something other than di Venezia, I am using the list of churches in Venice as a spot from whence to leap. I had not looked to see if there is a "wiki established" format for such titles. From now on, I will switch to the format you suggest.Baroque1700 05:32, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there isn’t really an established naming format for buildings (see talk:Florence Cathedral#Requested move for one rather tense discussion on the topic), but the commonest usages are Building Name (Place) or Building Name, Place. Take your pick.
Are you certain about the ‘del Carmini’, though? Wouldn’t it be ‘Santa Maria dei Carmini’ (like the Scuola dei Carmini which you mention in the article)? The Italian Wikipedia doesn’t yet have an article on the church, but it does have two red-links to it as ‘Santa Maria del Carmine’ (from it:Francesco_di_Giorgio_Martini and from the disambiguation page it:Chiesa di Santa Maria del Carmine), and one red-link to ‘Santa Maria dei Carmini’ (from it:Chiese_di_Venezia).
Anyway, keep up the good work. —Ian Spackman 10:17, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I googled around, both are used. I find dei Carmini makes most sense (the church is also called del Carmelo. I will make the move and leave a redirectBaroque1700 21:47, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks —Ian Spackman 09:05, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Small request

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Hey, first off, great job on all the artist articles you've created! You're doing an awesome job. I do have one small request, though. When you put the stub tag in the article, could you please place it after the categories? That way the "Italian painter stub" etc. category will show up at the end of the categories rather than at the front. I'd really appreciate it. Thanks and keep up the good work! :) --Hemlock Martinis 01:15, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I see you've started doing it, thank you very much! --Hemlock Martinis 19:08, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The Original Barnstar
For your work on the Italian painter articles. VivioFateFan (Talk, Sandbox) 05:35, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Notability of Cagnoni (engraver)

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Thank you

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For the addition to James Basire. Good stuff! Neil  12:13, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

painters categories

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I think before you sub-categorise all the painters you should open discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Visual arts. Two questions that imediately spring to mind are:

1) should sub-categorised articles be also removed from the main categories to try and reduce these monsters to a manageable size? - that would be normal practice.
2) do we really want by-century categories within the Renaissance or other periods? - generally these are disliked, and there is inevitably a great amount of duplication. Johnbod (talk) 04:09, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, on your new articles, I would always check with this site which you will often find gives you a better name (ie as usually used) and dates than C19 sources. Johnbod (talk) 04:16, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As I say, I think you should raise the matter at the Project, or I can if you like. The by-century renaissance category(ies) would I think be likely to merged at WP:CfD, following various precendents. Johnbod (talk) 06:42, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

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Thanks for your help on the Canale (surname) page. Much appreciated. Snowbound (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 22:48, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

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Thanks for your contribution on the Giuseppe Palmieri article. Very good (really my English is rather poor ...). Bbruno 21:12 CET, 10 March 2009. Note: if you like, please have a look to the article about the painter Giuseppe Badaracco that I have also expanded. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bbruno (talkcontribs) 20:16, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you again

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Thanks again for your contribution on the Giuseppe Badaracco article. Very good. Bbruno 18:30 CET, 25 March 2009. —Preceding undated comment added 17:31, 25 March 2009 (UTC).[reply]

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The article Daniello Basselli has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

There is no way this guy passes WP:GNG, or WP:NARTIST. I've checked every one of the "Directory of Engravers" "Directory of Artists" etc books that he is mentioned in, and not a one has an entry longer than three sentences. Furthermore, they're all sourced to/close paraphrases of Strutt's Dictionary of Engravers ([1]), so they're barely independent sources. There's no info about his life or death, no indication he ever produced more than the one single engraving that Strutt remarked on, and basically no reason to believe this person ever impacted the art world in any notable or encyclopedic way.

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"Parque de María Luisa (park)" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Nomination of Gabriele Caliari for deletion

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