User talk:BaiulyQz

June 2022

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Hello, it was not meant as test edit. The changes and additions are properly sourced. Here some quotes for verification regarding the "Iranian peoples" from the 2019 paper:

Seven groups (Iranian Arabs, Azeris, Gilaks, Kurds, Mazanderanis, Lurs and Persians) strongly overlapped in their overall autosomal diversity in an MDS analysis (Fig 1B), suggesting the existence of a Central Iranian Cluster (CIC), notably also including Iranian Arabs and Azeris. On a global scale (Fig 2 including “Old World” populations only; see S2 Fig for all 1000G populations), CIC Iranians closely clustered with Europeans, while Iranian Turkmen showed similar yet distinct degrees of admixture compared to other South Asians. A local comparison corroborated the distinct genetic diversity of CIC Iranians relative to other geographically close populations [2, 6, 44] (Fig 3 and S3 Fig). Still, genetic substructure was much smaller among Iranian groups than in relation to any of the 1000G populations, supporting the view that the CIC groups form a distinct genetic entity, despite internal heterogeneity. European (FST~0.0105–0.0294), South Asians (FST~0.0141–0.0338), but also some Latin American populations (Puerto Ricans: FST~0.0153–0.0228; Colombians: FST~0.0170–0.0261) were closest to Iranians, whereas Sub-Saharan Africans and admixed Afro-Americans (FST~0.0764–0.1424) as well as East Asians (FST ~ 0.0645–0.1055) showed large degrees of differentiation with Iranians.

And here from the 2022 paper:

...Tajiks and Yaghnobis who live in southern Central Asia, speak Indo-Iranian languages, practice agriculture, are sedentary and who are genetically more similar to present-day western Eurasian populations2,11 and Iranians12. ... Thus, the qpAdm modelling shows that at least 90% of the ancestry of current Indo-Iranian ancestry is modelized as inherited from Iron Age individuals from southern Central Asia with an affinity with BMAC. Consequently, Indo-Iranians present a strong genetic continuity in the region since the Iron Age with anecdotic admixture with BHG ancestry related individuals, and, for the Tajiks, with South Asian ancestry related populations possibly after Iron Age.

And regarding Turkmen people:

"Despite speaking a Turko-Mongol language and having the same cultural practices as other Turko-Mongol ethnic groups53, Turkmens are genetically closer to Indo-Iranian populations than to Turko-Mongols54,55. ... Indeed, Turkmens (TUR) fall into the Tajiks cluster and not in the Turko-Mongol cline in the PCA (Fig. 1) and in the ADMIXTURE analysis (Fig. 2), all Turko-Mongol populations from Central Asia except Turkmens show a significant (t-test, p-value < 2.10–16) high amount of Baikal (red component, mean 50%) and East Asian ancestry (pink component, maximized in the Han population). Turkmens, for their part, display a completely different pattern, with an amount of Baikal component (mean value: 22%) closer to the proportion in Tajiks (mean value: 15%) and almost no East Asian component. ... Finally, we modeled Turkmens as a mixture of Central Asia basal ancestry (represented by Yaghnobis) and East Asian ancestry (we obtained a negative value for f3(TUR; TJY, DevilsCave_N); f3 = −0.0025, Z = −5.266). qpAdm modelling for Turkmens produces a single nonrejected model (p-value = 0.048007) implying 6% of Golden Horde Asian and 94% of Tajiks (TAB) (with TJY, XiongNu, GoldenHordeAsian, TAB, Turkmenistan_IA as potential rotating left population) (Table 1). For this admixture event, we estimated a date of 687 ± 100 BP (23.7 ± generations) with DATES. ... These results enlighten that Turkmens were an Indo-Iranian-like population not so long ago, who recently shifted language and culture without a substantial genetic change in population."

Therefore I am restoring my version. If you see further problems, please fix them or mention them at to me. Thank you!BaiulyQz (talk) 21:25, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

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Thank you for the information. I will keep that in mind next time.BaiulyQz (talk) 05:48, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

About Turkic people

In Central Asia, the article is edited as Largely Indo-Iranian being replaced by primary East Asian descent because of Turkic people. I on the other hand only changed it to Turkic people or mixed East Asian, I was reverted several times.

I also don't believe original Turkic people were East Asians. Come and read this talk page. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:Central_Asia#I_got_repeatedly_reverted 77.103.186.178 (talk) 19:15, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

I do not know how I should help, but the paper by Damgaard gives this summary:

The steppe was likely largely Iranian-speaking in the 2nd and 1st millennia BCE. This is supported by the split of the Indo-Iranian linguistic branch into Iranian and Indian32, the distribution of the Iranian languages, and the preservation of Old Iranian loanwords in Tocharian33. The wide distribution of the Turkic languages from Northwest China, Mongolia and Siberia in the east to Turkey, Bulgaria, Romania and Lithuania in the west implies large-scale migrations out of the homeland in Mongolia since the beginning of the Common Era34. The diversification within the Turkic languages suggests that several waves of migrations occurred35, and on the basis of the impact of local languages gradual assimilation to local populations were already assumed36. The East Asian migration starting with the Xiongnu complies well with the hypothesis that early Turkic was their major language37. Further migrations of East Asians westwards find a good linguistic correlate in the influence of Mongolian on Turkic and Iranian in the last millennium38. As such, the genomic history of the Eurasian steppe is the story of a gradual transition from Bronze Age pastoralists of western Eurasian ancestry, towards mounted warriors of increased East Asian ancestry – a process that continued well into historical times.

The main East Asian wave was caused by the Mongolians. Just use the wording used by Bogazicili:

A 2018 autosomal single-nucleotide polymorphism study suggested that Eurasian Steppe slowly transitioned from Indo European and Iranian-speaking groups with largely western Eurasian ancestry to increasing East Asian ancestry with Turkic and Mongolian groups in the past 4000 years, including extensive Turkic migrations out of Mongolia and slow assimilation of local populations.

Hope that helps you.BaiulyQz (talk) 15:23, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

November 2022

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove or blank page content or templates from Wikipedia without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary, as you did at Turkic peoples. Qiushufang (talk) 16:12, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

I did not remove sourced content, but a sentence part taken out of context. The other changes are explained in the talk page. Actually you have just removed sourced content and verbally attacked me.BaiulyQz (talk) 17:04, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Qiushufang (talk) 17:12, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

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