User talk:Augustalardy

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Conflict of interest in Wikipedia[edit]

Hi Jitdgog Hi Augustalardy. I work on conflict of interest issues here in Wikipedia, along with my regular editing. Your edit to Fabien Riggall was very promotional; this is a topic where we have had quite a bit of undisclosed conflicted editing. I'm giving you notice of our Conflict of Interest guideline and Terms of Use, and will have some comments and requests for you below.

Hello, Augustalardy. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. Editing for the purpose of advertising or promotion is not permitted. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, company, organization or competitors;
propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (see the {{request edit}} template);
disclose your COI when discussing affected articles (see WP:DISCLOSE);
avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:SPAM);
do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID). Thank you.

Comments and requests[edit]

Wikipedia is a widely-used reference work and managing conflict of interest is essential for ensuring the integrity of Wikipedia and retaining the public's trust in it. As in academia, COI is managed here in two steps - disclosure and a form of peer review. Please note that there is no bar to being part of the Wikipedia community if you want to be involved in articles where you have a conflict of interest; there are just some things we ask you to do (and if you are paid, some things you need to do).

Disclosure is the most important, and first, step. While I am not asking you to disclose your identity (anonymity is strictly protecting by our WP:OUTING policy) would you please disclose if you have some connection with Riggall or any of his companies, directly or through a third party (e.g. a PR agency or the like)? You can answer how ever you wish (giving personally identifying information or not), but if there is a connection, please disclose it. After you respond (and you can just reply below), I can walk you through how the "peer review" part happens and then, if you like, I can provide you with some more general orientation as to how this place works. Please reply here, just below, to keep the discussion in one place. Thanks! Jytdog (talk) 15:16, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jytdog,

I am a Secret Cinema superfan and I am just updating Riggall's profile on the basis of articles found on internet. Would love to get my edit through thanks to some advice on how to neutralize the content.

Thank you for your help. [User:Augustalardy|Augustalardy]] (talk) 17:37, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply.

Based on what you have wrote above, I want to make sure are aware of issues with advocacy (fans and haters) in Wikipedia.

There are a lot of things that Wikipedia is not (see What Wikipedia is not) and one of the things WP is not, is a platform for advocacy. Please especially see the section, WP:NOTADVOCACY.

"What Wikipedia is Not" actually defines our mission -- what we are up to here. It spends a lot of saying "not X" and "not Y" - it also says what the mission is - namely to provide a free repository of accepted knowledge to the world. Like any encyclopedia - the emphasis is on serving people who want to learn.

People come edit for many reasons, but one of the main ones is that they are passionate about something. That passion is a double-edged sword. It drives people to contribute which has the potential for productive construction, but it can also lead people to abuse Wikipedia - to hijack it from its mission of providing the world with free access to "accepted knowledge." Some people come here and try to create promotional content about their companies (classic "COI"), some come to tell everybody how bad it is to eat meat, some come to grind various political axes... we get all kinds of advocacy (COI is just a subset of it) It all comes down to violations of NOTADVOCACY. A lot of times, people don't even understand this is not OK. I try to talk with folks, to make sure they are aware of these issues.

For non-COI advocacy issues, we have three very good essays offering advice - one is WP:ADVOCACY another is WP:SPA that I already pointed you to, and see also WP:TENDENTIOUS which describes how advocacy editors tend to behave.

So, while I hear you that you are a big fan of Secret Cinema in the real world, but please do try to check that at the login page.

Changes to content (adding or deleting) need to be governed by the content policies and guidelines - namely WP:VERIFY, WP:OR, WP:NPOV, and WP:NOT and the sourcing guidelines WP:RS.

We also have policies and guidelines about behavior here. There is some more explanation of how this place actually works and all these policies and guidelines, at User:Jytdog/How if you would like that overview.

But do try to aim everything you do and write in Wikipedia to further Wikipedia's mission and base everything you do on the spirit (not just the letter) of the content and behavior policies and guidelines. Your passions will determine what you work on, but they shouldn't guide how you work here. I hope that makes sense.

If you have questions about working in WP at any time going forward, or about anything I wrote above, please ask me. I am happy to talk. Jytdog (talk) 18:10, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jitdog,

Could you give me information about what sources are accepted.

The references I use are only well establish media sources such as reuters, the Guardian, Sky News, The Telegraph... Which correspond exactly to the definition of "accepted knowledge" that you use since they are reliable and accepted sources of knowledge throughout the world and certainly are not "tabloids". Augustalardy (talk) 10:57, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]