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1993 - 2000 Sports Network Cup retroactive voting[edit]

Hello Athletic Historian, You've created a number of articles, including:

In all these articles you've stated trophy winner with the following statement:

The Sports Network Cup traveling trophy was first awarded in 2001; however, the Sport Networks Mid-Major Championship teams were honored retroactively on the trophy as recipients dating back to 1993

Could you please point me to where you've obtained that information? I am unable to locate that info anywhere.

Thanks!

--CyberXReftalk 07:20, 15 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of 1981 Aloha Bowl[edit]

The article 1981 Aloha Bowl has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Cancelled game article that is unreferenced. I haven't found an article from a WP:RS backing this up.

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. ...William 14:50, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of 1981 Aloha Bowl for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article 1981 Aloha Bowl is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1981 Aloha Bowl until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. ...William 00:32, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Disambiguation link notification for November 8[edit]

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Drake–Iowa rivalry moved to draftspace[edit]

An article you recently created, Drake–Iowa rivalry, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. GPL93 (talk) 02:16, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Drake–Iowa State rivalry moved to draftspace[edit]

An article you recently created, Drake–Iowa State rivalry, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. GPL93 (talk) 02:19, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

November 2021[edit]

Information icon Hello, I'm GPL93. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. GPL93 (talk) 02:24, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Drake–San Diego football rivalry moved to draftspace[edit]

An article you recently created, Drake–San Diego football rivalry, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. GPL93 (talk) 02:26, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Drake–Iowa rivalry (November 11)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Dan arndt was:
This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
Lacks any sources or references.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
Dan arndt (talk) 02:59, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Speedy deletion nomination of Dayton–Drake football rivalry[edit]

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A tag has been placed on Dayton–Drake football rivalry requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Drake–Dayton football rivalry. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discussion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

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Drake–Valparaiso rivalry moved to draftspace[edit]

An article you recently created, Drake–Valparaiso rivalry, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. GPL93 (talk) 03:25, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

NRIVARLY[edit]

Please see WP:NRIVALRY. Just because a rivalry between two schools exist does not mean that it automatically qualifies for an article. The article must still pass the General Notability Guideline and receive significant coverage from independent and reliable sources (which links to schedules from Drake's athletics website, etc. very much are not). Additionally, not every sporting matchup between the schools should be included because many of these matchups simply are not notable and Wikipedia is not a collections of indiscriminate game results and statistics. Best, GPL93 (talk) 14:40, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

These are known rivals if you follow college sports:

Iowa Big Four - Drake vs. Iowa, Drake vs. Iowa State, Drake vs. Northern Iowa, Iowa vs. Iowa State, Iowa vs. Northern Iowa, Iowa State vs. Northern Iowa.

Pioneer Football League - Drake vs. Butler, Drake vs. Dayton, Drake vs. San Diego, Dayton vs. San Diego, Valparaiso vs. Butler

Missouri Valley - Drake vs. Northern Iowa, Bradley vs. Drake, Indiana State vs. Evansville, Valparaiso vs. Evansville, Indiana State vs. Valparaiso, Illinois State vs. Bradley, Southern Illinois vs. Missouri State

Old school Missouri Valley - Creighton vs. Wichita State, Drake vs. Creighton, Wichita State vs. Bradley, Bradley vs. Creighton.

The Drake vs. Valparaiso is an emerging rivalry now that they play in Pioneer Football League and Missouri Valley.

There is tons of hard copy info on these games. I am not sure where you are located, but I encourage you to attend one if you have the opportunity. I am sure you would be impressed with the atmosphere.

I do follow college sports, but there's a very large difference between "known" and meeting Wikipedia's notability standards and "hard copy info" and significant coverage by Wikipedia:Independent Reliable Sources~. GPL93 (talk)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Drake–Iowa State rivalry (November 11)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was:
This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
Articles other than list articles should not consist primarily of very long lists. See Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. This draft is mostly a very long list of sports results, which, in themselves, do not establish the need for a separate article.


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Robert McClenon (talk) 16:23, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Drake–Iowa rivalry (November 11)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was:
Articles other than list articles should not consist primarily of very long lists. See Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. This draft is mostly a long list of athletic results, and does not in itself establish notability of the rivalry.


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Robert McClenon (talk) 16:33, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Potato Bowl USA moved to draftspace[edit]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Drake–San Diego football rivalry (December 2)[edit]

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Johannes Maximilian was: This submission is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: Wikipedia is a tertiary source – what Wikipedia basically does is copy the contents (in its own words) of already published sources. Wikipedia is not a place to publish one's original thought. None of the sources provided in this draft indicate a football rivalry – therefore, it is warranted to believe that a rivalry is not described in any required reliable, secondary sources. Best regards, --Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 10:15, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Drake–Iowa State rivalry (December 13)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Slywriter was:
This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
deadlinks including several that were dead when sourced. if you would like a reviewer to take this seriously. identify three sources that discuss the rivalry and place on talk or in a comment
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Drake–Iowa rivalry (December 20)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Slywriter was:
This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
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please identify WP:THREE sources here or on talk page that discuss the rivalry
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Potato Bowl USA (February 20)[edit]

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Please see the notability guideline for events.
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S0091 (talk) 15:04, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Your draft article, Draft:Drake–Valparaiso rivalry[edit]

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Your draft article, Draft:Drake–Iowa rivalry[edit]

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Proposed deletion of Drake–Northern Iowa rivalry[edit]

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The article Drake–Northern Iowa rivalry has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Fails WP:NRIVARLY. The article as it currently is constructed is an indiscriminate collection of scores across multiple sports. Almost all sourcing is primary, coming mostly from the media guides of Drake or Northern Iowa sports teams or game reports/box scores from school website. There isn't much mention of an actual "rivarly" in independent, reliable sources.

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Your draft article, Draft:Potato Bowl USA[edit]

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Nomination of Butler–Drake football rivalry for deletion[edit]

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