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Your submission at Articles for creation: Constance Savery (April 10)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Davisonio was:

Clearly not finished, has some WP:MOS and the bibiolography need cleanup

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Constance Savery has been accepted

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ToThAc (talk) 14:14, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Stub articles about entertainers

Considering your interest in actors and actresses from years gone by, let me suggest that you look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types#Entertainers. I have found a number of articles that I could work on via some of the subdivisions (such as "American screen actor, 1910s birth stubs"). Eddie Blick (talk) 21:03, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Duane Thompson

Your revised citations look great! I know what you mean about the tedious work, but the resulting improvement is worth the effort.

With regard to your question about Walter Winchell, I use the "Last name" and "First name" boxes in the "News cite" template for bylines, so I would put "Winchell" in the "Last name" box and "Walter" in the first name box. (By the way, if you ever have an article or a book with more than one author, clicking the green "+" sign to the right of "First name" will produce a second set of similar boxes.)

By the way, I don't know whether this applies to any of the citations for this article, but if you ever use a story that was distributed by a news service (Associated Press, United Press, International News Service, Newspaper Enterprise Association, etc.) that name goes in the "Agency" box. If you want to add that to an existing citation, you can just insert "|agency=Associated Press" etc. into the citation. Eddie Blick (talk) 02:53, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Teblick. I hadn't encountered "Cite_news" before (or any of the other templates) except for your example with the first reference. Your help allowed me to add two by-lines, one (Walter Winchell) with author-link1. I'm learning. Anobium625 (talk) 02:47, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've been at this for almost five years, and I'm still learning, too! Wikipedia has so many facets that it's not unusual to encounter new things (or new ways of doing things).

Speaking of the "Cite" templates, if you use Google Books (which I nearly always check for entertainers from the past), the "Cite book" template is really convenient. If you find useful information in a Google Books source, just copy the address of the web page from the browser and paste it in the URL box, then click on the magnifying-glass icon immediately to the right of the box. Much of the information (author's names, title, etc.) will appear automatically. Usually all I have to add is the access date and the page(s). Eddie Blick (talk) 03:07, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. That will be handy on my other Wiki edits. Anobium625 (talk) 15:02, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Archiving web pages used as sources

Have you become acquainted with the process of creating an archive of a web page that you use for a citation? It's one of those things that I learned about only after a couple of years of editing. You have probably seen citations that give a source along with "archived from the original ..." The reason for doing so is that if the original page disappears from the Internet, the archived copy should remain as a backup. At the risk of telling you something that you already know, I will share some suggestions.

I don't create archives for books or newspapers, but I try to do so for most web sites. I use one of two options.

1) The Internet Archive's Wayback Machine. This seems to be the standard for most archiving, but sometimes it doesn't work. In that case, I go to archive.today (see next paragraph). Rather than elaborate on the ways you can use the Wayback Machine, I will point you to this article from the Internet Archive's blog. The most convenient way to create an archive is covered in item 2 on that page, using a browser extension. Otherwise, No. 1 and No. 3 will work.

2) If the Wayback Machine is balky or just won't work on a page, I use archive.today. (For some reason, some pages won't allow the Wayback Machine to create an archive but will allow archive.today to do so.) It has options of using a bookmarklet in a browser and entering the page's URL in a box. The bookmarklet is much easier to use.

Archiving is not essential by any means, but I like it as a sort of insurance for availability of cited sources. Eddie Blick (talk) 02:53, 13 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, yet again, Teblick. One of the advantages to being 83 years old is that I worry very little about anything after, say, 2023. But the Constance Savery page is important to me, so I may take precautions there.

As a result of your pointing out the citation templates, I've added several by-lines to the Duane Thompson page and one agency. I am now reorganizing the page to have a short introduction followed by separate sections for the stages of her career. I'm going to remove the reference to the article as a stub. It is now beyond that, I think.

The previous page said that she was in an early movie with Vernon Dent and Violet Joy. Not exactly. She used the name Violet Joy before she became (or returned to??) Duane Thompson. I have not yet confirmed her role with Dent in "Up and at 'Em", and I haven't found her obituary or other death record. If I can find those, and complete my reorganization, no more citations will be required.

I subscribe to Ancestry.com, so I may find the death record there, although Ancestry may not provide a reliable source. Cheers! Anobium625 (talk) 03:15, 13 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

83? You have 10 years on me. I hope I'm as active on Wikipedia when I'm 83 as you are now. I'm glad that the citation tips have helped you. I like your reorganization of the Thompson page. Many editors create pages with long sections (or just a long article with no sections). I prefer divisions not only for organization but because they make editing easier.

I dislike being the bearer of bad news, but your surmise about Ancestry.com is correct. Because the content is user-generated, it is not considered a reliable source for use on Wikipeda. You can see a discussion about the topic at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 92#Ancestry.com. Eddie Blick (talk) 21:07, 13 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Eddie for the kind words concerning the Thompson article. Unless something else is pointed out to me, I am now through with it. I searched pretty thoroughly for a newspaper obituary, but was unable to find one. Some of the vital statistics, drawn from ancestry.com, such as her mother's maiden name and name of her mother's second husband, are unconfirmed. The dates of birth and death are exactly the same on Ancestry as they are on IMDb, but two bad sources don't make one good one. Finding on Ancestry that her mother's second husband was named Thompson confirmed that "Diane Thompson" was a real name, not a stage name, so I used that without attribution, particularly because I did cite a news source in which Diane says that Diane Thompson is her real name. I read the exchanges about census data. Having found plenty of bad data in"reliable sources", I am not persuaded that census numbers are that much worse than other published numbers.

It seems to me that if a reader of a Wikipedia article can click on a citation and be taken to an original source, such as a birth certificate or a marriage license, that ought to be good enough. I think the "original research" was finding the data, not quoting it. At any rate, I've labelled my IMBd references with "need better source". Eric. Anobium625 (talk) 22:29, 13 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Project Harvest Moon

On 8 October 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Project Harvest Moon, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Project Harvest Moon intended to commercialize space by selling moon rocks to pay for further lunar experiments? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Project Harvest Moon. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Project Harvest Moon), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Aeris Naviter

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Aeris Naviter (November 21)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by K.e.coffman was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Aeris Naviter AN-2 Enara already exists and is sufficient to cover both the product and the company.

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K.e.coffman (talk) 16:10, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have concurred in the deletion. Anobium625 (talk) 02:15, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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