User talk:Annejwatson

Hello!

Greetings! I'm really excited to see your future article on Peter Hall - I recently created an article on the tapestry that Le Corbusier created for the opera house, Les Dés Sont Jetés. Do let me know if I can help in any way - I've written many biographical articles on artists. No Swan So Fine (talk) 08:48, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hullo No Swan so Fine - my Peter Hall draft seems to be stuck with another editor - 'Hoary' - who I now haven't heard from for almost 2 months. Any suggestions? Why don't you edit my entry?

Thanks

Anne Annejwatson (talk) 01:39, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Peter Hall (architect) has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Peter Hall (architect). Thanks! Hoary (talk) 02:21, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hullo. Happy to delete/transfer external refs where necessary. However, your comments re unsubstantiated claims in the para quoted is a bit more problematic. Difficult to find specific references for what is general knowledge about the history of the SOH. I can tone down the rhetoric - would that help? Its like having to source specific refs to validate the claim that Hitler was a mass murderer! Also - not sure what the next step is. Do I wait until the full article is reviewed before I address the issues raised??

Thanks - Anne Annejwatson (talk) 01:43, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Peter Hall (architect) has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Peter Hall (architect). Thanks! Hoary (talk) 09:34, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Expertise

As I've said, I greatly enjoy your draft . . . but it's problematic. I very much hope that it can be turned into an article, and I expect that it will be. However, do please read WP:Expert editors. -- Hoary (talk) 11:54, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Hall archive

I've just noticed that the photo of Hall looking through a camera has been nominated for deletion. Please clarify its copyright status: if you don't, it will go, and it may well take Marion Best interior c1966.tif with it (and probably others too, though I haven't yet looked at how they're described). -- Hoary (talk) 23:03, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hullo Hoary! I went through a very protracted process supplying copyright permission for the images, all but two of which are from the Peter Hall archive. (two are my own) Copyright is with his son Willy Hall, who I know well. Under advice from Wikipedia I used the permissions template signed by Willy and, from memory, emailed it - with shots of the images to be used - to, I think, Wikipedia photosubmissions, as advised. Utterly perplexed that there is still a problem. I had no problem uploading the images to my article so assumed it had all been processed and approved by Wikipedia. Could you let me know what the problem is please. Anne Annejwatson (talk) 01:16, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Hoary - it is now almost 2 months since our last communication. Can you let me know what is happening?

Thanks. Anne Annejwatson (talk) 01:31, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Peter Hall (architect) (June 14)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by HenryTemplo was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

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HenryTemplo (talk) 13:39, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Annejwatson! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! HenryTemplo (talk) 13:39, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Peter Hall (architect) has been accepted

Peter Hall (architect), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as B-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. This is a fantastic rating for a new article, and places it among the top 3% of accepted submissions — major kudos to you! You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

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Thanks again, and happy editing!

echidnaLives - talk - edits 06:27, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problem: Peter Hall (architect)

Hello Annejwatson! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as Peter Hall (architect), but we regretfully cannot accept copyrighted material from other websites or printed works. This article appears to contain work copied from http://opus-soh.com/peter-hall/, and therefore to constitute a violation of Wikipedia's copyright policies. The copyrighted text has been or will soon be deleted. While we appreciate your contributions, copying content from other websites is unlawful and against Wikipedia's copyright policy. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators are likely to lose their editing privileges.

If you believe that the article is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under license allowed by Wikipedia, then you should do one of the following:

Have the author release the text under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 License (CC BY-SA 3.0) by leaving a message explaining the details at Talk:Peter Hall (architect) and send an email with confirmation of permission to "permissions-enwikimedia.org". Make sure they quote the exact page name, Peter Hall (architect), in their email. See Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission for instructions.
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Thank you, and please feel welcome to continue contributing to Wikipedia. Happy editing!

If I may add a more personal note here, allow me to express my regret that the issues here were not identified much earlier in the submission process. Unfortunately, the primary biographical portion of the article paraphrases the source very closely, and in practice way too closely for comfort. This is compounded by the challenge that a biography necessarily follows the historical facts of the life it aims to do justice, which limits the available choice of words to use. As a consequence, copying a single source over and then trying to paraphrase (as I presume you did) will invariably remain closely tied to the original text. I would recommend, as a better practice, to start with two or more sources, take a manual note of the key points in the person's life and career, then close both of your sources, do something different for a while, then pick up your notes and turn them into prose in your own words.

Kind regards, MLauba ^(Talk) 13:25, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hullo - As you say its a great pity I wasn't alerted to this copyright 'issue' earlier. However, it is not a problem because I sought permission from the author - Prof Peter Webber - of the OpusSOH website biography some time ago. I will now obtain his release of the text via your instructions. Please don't delete the offending text!

Thanks Annejwatson (talk) 05:23, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]