User talk:Anne8Ko

October 2020

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Word count

It's great that you're working on making plot summaries in articles shorter. But some of your edits seem to be focused solely on reducing the number of words, and sometimes using fewer words makes it confusing or awkward to read. For example, "Successful San Francisco corporate lawyer Peter Banning, unaware that his work is straining his relationship with his wife Moira and their children (Jack and Maggie), the family prepares to fly to London to visit Moira's grandmother, Wendy Darling"[1] is a dozen fewer words, but it's a run-on sentence that doesn't work grammatically. And it misses the point that it's Peter's attitude that's the problem, not his job. As another example, changing "Peter spies on" to "Peter sees" is one fewer word, but leaves out the fact that he's doing it secretly. The goal isn't to use as few words as possible, but to avoid going into unnecessary details about the story. Instead of asking "How can I rephrase this with fewer words?" ask "What plot details aren't necessary to understand the story?" -Jason A. Quest (talk) 15:46, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Plot word counts

Hi @Anne8ko. I’ve noticed you’ve been editing film plots to fit the suggested word count limit of 400-700 words. On The Good Girl, I saw you worked on tightening the word number, but certain details became unclear. For example, when this sentence "30 y.o. Justine Last is depressed, living in small town Texas with her house painter husband Phil, who smokes marijuana with his best friend, Bubba constantly" is followed by "He wants them to start a family but she is not ready," it can be unclear about who wants to start a family—Phil or Bubba? So I changed it to "Phil wants to start a family with Justine but she is not yet ready."

Another example is the last sentence. "She lovingly holds the baby and they seem content." Who seems content, Justine and the baby, or Justine and Phil? I edited it to "She lovingly holds the baby and the couple seems content" to be more specific.

Yes, MOS:PLOTLENGTH recommends a certain word count, but those are meant as guidelines and do not have to be strictly followed to the letter. The general idea is "There is no universal set length for a plot summary, though it should not be excessively long." I understand you’re trying to improve plot summaries per the guidelines, but when you do so, make sure that the wording or grammar is not becoming unclear or confusing while doing so. Spectrallights (talk) 04:44, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ok, I do my best...thanks for the input. I do read and reread after editing, but we are all human and can occasionally slip up Anne8Ko (talk) 09:06, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome, thanks for being open to it. I'd echo what Jason A. Quest said up top: it's less about using as few words as possible and more about "What plot details aren't necessary to understand the story?" Spectrallights (talk) 06:14, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The Bells of St. Mary's

Funny I stumbled upon the page today. During one edit, when you removed the word count during your (by the way, wonderfully concise) plot summary (inside of the invisible < ! -- type of tag), everything below intro paragraph inadvertently disappeared. I was about to put a stub tag on it, when I noticed the whole thing was hidden. It was like a treasure hunt! Anyway, page is restored now, and looks excellent. Just wanted to inform you though. Addendum w/ clarification re: Fitzgerald technically being first nominated twice for same role, albeit same film; Crosby same role in two different films. Have a good one! --Cinemaniac⁸⁶_{Dane_Cook_Hater_Extraordinaire} 20:41, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I panicked when it inadvertently, inexplicably disappeared. Happily I was able to save it the next day correctly. Anne8Ko (talk) 22:10, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Fried Green Tomatoes hidden text

Please stop removing hidden text from the film article: 1, 2. Throughout its history, the plot has at times exceeded the wordage range and then been decreased. The hidden text regarding total wordage is appropriate and has been very helpful in keeping the plot summary within the MOS guideline. Pyxis Solitary (yak yak). Ol' homo. 01:54, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Scoop Plot summary

You might want to double check the plot summary you added on Scoop_(2024_film). Looks like you lost some text, as the second paragraph is an incomplete sentence. dstumme (talk) 20:36, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Contractions

They are not used in formal writing. See MOS:N'T. Also see MOS:FILMPLOT. It is not helpful to write plot sections that vastly exceed 700 words. 81.106.71.55 (talk) 21:13, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have noted 'encyclopedic prose'...a plot is not a dry, factual article, in my view. In strictly formats I concur that contractions are inappropriate. Anne8Ko (talk) 20:15, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"A plot is not a dry, factual article" - what do you think it is, then? The rest of your reply is not intelligible, but I see that you have continued to write plot sections full of contractions. Are you going to stop doing this and write properly? 81.106.71.55 (talk) 10:13, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have revisited your commentary, and am actively reducing contractions as I come across them. Anne8Ko (talk) 23:58, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are in fact still actively adding text containing contractions. This is highly disruptive. Stop using contractions. 81.106.71.55 (talk) 05:04, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Problems

Most of your edits have edit summaries "slight tweaks" or "tightening of the text". These are not informative and often do not correspond to what you have actually done. You should describe what you have actually done in a meaningful way.

I also notice that many of your edits are extremely harmful. For example:

in this edit, you changed "black people" to the derogatory "blacks"
in this edit, you changed "they both want to stay with each other a bit longer" to "they both want to stay as each other a bit longer"
in this edit, you changed "Grant concludes that the dinosaurs are breeding, which is possible because of amphibian DNA" to "Grant concludes that the dinosaurs are breeding, which is possible as amphibian DNA"

Is English your native language? 81.106.71.55 (talk) 05:18, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Madame Web plot

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