User talk:AnAudLife
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[edit]@KyleJoan: Please stop casually addressing me on pages where it's clearly inappropriate. There is no need for a "welcome back" from you to me written on The Real Housewives of New York's Revision History Page, (*side note...I never left). If you need to send a message related to editing, please do so where that kind of thing belongs. Definitely not on a reality show's Revision History page, and just to note there wasn't even a revision made. You already know I have no interest in engaging with you on a personal level, so stop baiting me to get a reaction, this is the only time I'm going to address this with you.
- There's no interaction ban between us, so I can address you to discuss any dispute regarding content we may have. I have a question regarding one of your reverts. In your edit summary, you stated:
According to Bravo, it is confirmed, please see article that is cited.
I understand you were referring to this article. Can you quote to me where in the article it says anyone from the previous season was returning? I can't seem to find it. You know where I can find it? In the three citations I added, all of which you reverted. You also mentionedredundant information or citations
; would you be so kind in directing me the guideline that outlines what a redundant citation is? Thank you very much! KyleJoantalk 04:37, 25 November 2019 (UTC)- Yes, you can address me regarding EDITS, you cannot however send erroneous greetings on a revision history page, you didn't even make a change, you just entered a greeting. It's unwelcome. As for the citations, there's no need to mention cast members returning to the show, it was never announced that they were leaving. Also, the opening paragraph already names the current cast, as it always has, for years. So yes, three citations are unnecessary, in this case, since we got the information from the horses mouth so to speak. AnAudLife (talk) 04:49, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Also, the opening paragraph already names the current cast, as it always has, for years. So yes, three citations are unnecessary, in this case, since we got the information from the horses mouth so to speak.
I don't know if I'm mincing my words because they don't seem to be coming across. I specifically asked you: Where in the one source you referenced does it say de Lesseps, Medley, Morgan, Mortimer, and Singer are all returning for the twelfth season? KyleJoantalk 04:53, 25 November 2019 (UTC)- It doesn't need to state that they are returning, no source anywhere ever stated that they were leaving in the first place. I'm not sure why you can't understand that. AnAudLife (talk) 04:56, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- I think I finally understand. What you're saying is if no report states that somebody was leaving, it's correct to assume that they were set to come back for the new season, therefore, citations that affirm their return are not necessary? KyleJoantalk 05:00, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- No credible source ever definitively reported on the other cast member's departures, no announcement by Bravo or by the other cast members themselves was made regarding any departures, other than Bethenny & Barbara and we've covered that already. As I previously stated, the opening paragraph of the RHONY Wikipedia page specifically states, "The current cast consists of...", so yeah, I think it's pretty self explanatory. AnAudLife (talk) 05:06, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- You never answered my question. Is it correct to assume that the people not reported as leaving were set to come back for the new season? Yes or no?
As I previously stated, the opening paragraph of the RHONY Wikipedia page specifically states, "The current cast consists of...", so yeah, I think it's pretty self explanatory.
I never disputed this. What I'm asking is how do we know who makes up the current cast other than McSweeney? By assuming that the women not reported as leaving were returning? Yes or no? KyleJoantalk 05:13, 25 November 2019 (UTC)- If you don't understand what I've already explained to you, numerous times in great detail, you will never get it. You've beaten the horse beyond all recognition, the horse is dead, buried and decomposed. Please stop badgering me. AnAudLife (talk) 05:15, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- All you had to do was answer yes or no. And I'll leave you with this–WP:BALL states:
Wikipedia is not a collection of unverifiable speculation or presumptions. Wikipedia does not predict the future.
What that means is assuming anyone is returning based on how there are no reports on them leaving does not adhere to Wikipedia policies. You know what does adhere to said policies? Citations, three of which you removed. You began a dispute that originated in the addition of cited statements without understanding that the citations themselves were never even the issue; the additional statement that confirmed the returning cast was, and now that's resolved. It's never disuptive or problematic to cite reliable sources. In fact, it is encouraged. All of that said, I thank you for our productive discussion! KyleJoantalk 05:26, 25 November 2019 (UTC)- As another editor has already mentioned, "Wikipedia isn't a newspaper", your 3 citations were unnecessary and they clutter the page. The opening paragraph states "CURRENT CAST...", did you get that? CURRENT. That means that all the named people that follow that statement are still on the show, they are CURRENT, no citations necessary because there hasn't been a change in the status of those particular people named. AnAudLife (talk) 05:42, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a newspaper, right? It says:
Any contributions you make to Wikipedia must be verifiable, meaning anyone can check the facts for themselves, and based on reliable sources. We expect you to cite your sources for your contributions.
Where are we supposed to check who the returning cast is if it is not cited? KyleJoantalk 05:51, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a newspaper, right? It says:
- As another editor has already mentioned, "Wikipedia isn't a newspaper", your 3 citations were unnecessary and they clutter the page. The opening paragraph states "CURRENT CAST...", did you get that? CURRENT. That means that all the named people that follow that statement are still on the show, they are CURRENT, no citations necessary because there hasn't been a change in the status of those particular people named. AnAudLife (talk) 05:42, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- All you had to do was answer yes or no. And I'll leave you with this–WP:BALL states:
- If you don't understand what I've already explained to you, numerous times in great detail, you will never get it. You've beaten the horse beyond all recognition, the horse is dead, buried and decomposed. Please stop badgering me. AnAudLife (talk) 05:15, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- You never answered my question. Is it correct to assume that the people not reported as leaving were set to come back for the new season? Yes or no?
- No credible source ever definitively reported on the other cast member's departures, no announcement by Bravo or by the other cast members themselves was made regarding any departures, other than Bethenny & Barbara and we've covered that already. As I previously stated, the opening paragraph of the RHONY Wikipedia page specifically states, "The current cast consists of...", so yeah, I think it's pretty self explanatory. AnAudLife (talk) 05:06, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- I think I finally understand. What you're saying is if no report states that somebody was leaving, it's correct to assume that they were set to come back for the new season, therefore, citations that affirm their return are not necessary? KyleJoantalk 05:00, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- It doesn't need to state that they are returning, no source anywhere ever stated that they were leaving in the first place. I'm not sure why you can't understand that. AnAudLife (talk) 04:56, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, you can address me regarding EDITS, you cannot however send erroneous greetings on a revision history page, you didn't even make a change, you just entered a greeting. It's unwelcome. As for the citations, there's no need to mention cast members returning to the show, it was never announced that they were leaving. Also, the opening paragraph already names the current cast, as it always has, for years. So yes, three citations are unnecessary, in this case, since we got the information from the horses mouth so to speak. AnAudLife (talk) 04:49, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
When the information needs citations, absolutely!!! But in this case, no citations are necessary. AnAudLife (talk) 05:53, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- Who gets to decide which information needs citations and which does not? You? KyleJoantalk 05:54, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- Please leave me alone. This conversation is over. AnAudLife (talk) 06:02, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
November 2019
[edit]Here's the deal. "Then current cast member Frankel" isn't incorrect, so seeing that I do not own the page, I apologize for reverting. The commas, however, are incorrect per this article. Can we be done with this? If you feel that you need to report me and the situation to put a button on this dispute, then go right ahead because I wasn't the only one guilty of 3RR. Genuinely, thank you! KyleJoantalk 06:36, 25 November 2019 (UTC)