User talk:AmiDaniel/Archive5

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From McKenzie's IP Address

Daniel,

Dear Daniel,

I just read all of this on line and would appreciate it if you or Bachrach, National Parks would get rid of it. In particular these personal comments.

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.86.180.171 (talk • contribs)

vsnares debuttle

i just recently saw your message Re: 'the stupid chocolate wheelchair album', and i apologize if i offended you (i got in a lot of sh*t with my parents because of the ban and i was really pissed off)

i apologize for overreacting and insulting you in any way that i did, and will try to maintain a more positive demeanor in the future

however i still protest being banned for 'vandalism' when my input was arguably true —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.226.54.173 (talk • contribs) .

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Man you are behind the times

User (aeropagitca) is able to log in without problems, I fixed it without the code:-). Notice on the header, Solution found. I don't lie:-). So don't sweat it. If you don't believe me, scroll down to the very end of my user page. Just thought I'd let you know. Eagle talk 00:18, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

You fixed it? You aren't even going to mention me? File:Cry-tpvgames.gif. *cries* Prodego ^talk

I was hoping that he would actually read the whole converstation. But yes I am sorry, Prodego helped with a "Null" edit, and afterwords me and Prodego bumped heads on the firefox compatablity thing:-) I would ask about cookie settings, he asks about browser. We get responses to both, and both of us would have been able to point out fire fox as the root cuase. Sorry Prodego, but I have been helping so many of these cases, that I don't really care who gets credit for what:-). Though I spent an hour and a half getting that to work, an hour in I called for any mod to place a null edit on the startup page. And prodego was kind enough to stick it though with me Agian sorry for that, and now I have talked WAY to much. Eagle talk 02:24, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Ongoing Saga

You may want to read the top of User Talk:Johnlekay. Nationalparks 02:36, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

VP FAQ

What do you think of the formatting to this... look at only the first 3 entries, The others I have not formatted yet because I thought you would like to look at it first, and if there is something wrong I would rather correct 3 than 6, or more. Thanks. And here is the link:User talk:AmiDaniel/VP/FAQ.

Thank you--Eagle talk 02:44, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

New post

Hello Ami.

Elizabeth McKenzie just informed me of what happened a few days ago, after I came across a reference on google.

Sorry for all this mix up. I had no idea she was also working on my computer and entering all this infomation about me. She is also the PR person for <name removed> and thought she was helping out. No problem.

Thanks again,

John

Ami,

Sorry the last mssage was <name removed> 02:55, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Ami,

i just read the letter. WOW!!! <name removed> 03:12, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Ami,

Guess what. This just came up on a yahoo seach. Is there any way of geting rid of this from your talk page. Please feel free to delete my talk page,any kind of history, or what ever else you need to do. Everything keeps on showing up.

Thanks.

<name removed> 04:50, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

User talk:AmiDaniel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <name removed>. Dear Ami, Please excuse my editions. Very new to this and trying to figure out how this works. Ami, I left the last message. Please excuse me. Forgot to say who I am.

wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User_talk:AmiDaniel Cached page 5/11/2006 Wikipedia:Village pump (assistance) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia We would appreciate it if you would remove the verbage referencing <name removed> and <name removed> from your site. Obviously, you have not looked up either of them online and do not understand their ...

wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28assistance%29 Cached page 5/11/2006 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by <name removed> (talk • contribs) .

Now a Google search for <name removed> shows the protected Wikipedia page as the first result... Nationalparks 05:04, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Proposed Solution

My apologies for taking so long to respond--I was offline. I've conversed with a few others about the situation, and most tend to feel that not much can be done. Our goal on Wikipedia is to write an encyclopedia, not to provide a free adserver, and it's truly not the concern of Wikimedia or any of Wikipedia's contributors to preserve the PR of individual who abused it as such. In any case, I feel I may have found a reasonable compromise that is well within the limits of WP's policies and that may help to reduce the prevalency with which search engines direct others to this page, rather than your own website. However, to enact this I will need your cooperation and agreement.

First of all, I find it acceptable to remove the title of the article and your name from the warnings, though I will not endorse removing the warnings altogether. The messages from you here I will archive to a subpage and blank, so that I will have the messages available yet they will not appear when Google indexes the site. Secondly, you will have to change your username either to a dummy name (meaning that you have chosen to excercise your m:Right to vanish) or to something else, and the involved bureaucrat should then move your user and talk pages to that target. I'll monitor the page closely, but I would appreciate if you would drop a note here once your username has been changed. References on the Village Pump will eventually be archived, though they may still appear when the search engines index the site--absolutely nothing we can do there. The <name removed> article will also have to be preserved as a protected {{deleted page}} as it's simply been recreated too many times to allow it to be unprotected. After all of this has been done, there will still be references to your name on Wikipedia, but the bulk of them--and most especially the references that have concerned you (i.e. vandalism warnings)--will, within a matter of weeks, no longer appear when you search for your site.

Please understand that this is a lot of bending-over-backwards to boost the PR of someone who blatanly attempted to use Wikipedia as an adserver (in fact, most seem to have hinted that I should simply ignore your requests). If, after all of this has been completed, you continue to edit in the same manner, I strongly doubt that anyone will be concerned with what a search engine brought up when you searched for your name. As I said before, it's really not our concern, but I'm going to assume good faith here and try to help you as best as I can. If this seems reasonable to you, and you agree to the change of username, etc., then please indicate that either here or on your talk page, and I will go through and begin stripping talk pages of references to your name (within the confines of policy and only from talk pages of users who do not object to this). Thanks. AmiDaniel (talk) 05:25, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Good, now lets teach you the meaning of archive

Congrats on ...not... ... ... following your wikibreak. Now since that is over, could you please please archive some of this page:-). Eagle talk 03:23, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

For the record, it is 126 kilobytes long, the recommended size is 30 kilobytes... just a comparision:-)Eagle talk 03:25, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Comment

Just so you know, that comment would never appear in any article. --mboverload 04:47, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I'm aware of that. I just noticed that at the header when I was removing my Wikibreak notice and thought it might confuse other editors, or make them think that I have a strong aversion to Commonwealth English (i.e. that I have no patience for brits). I wouldn't mind it on the template (perhaps add <noinclude> around it), but I think it just gives a wrong impression when the comment appears on the VP pages. It's not a big deal at all; I just decided to remove it. If you'd like to put it back, you can go right ahead. AmiDaniel (talk) 04:58, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

From John Again

Dear Ami,

Please start the deletion process and let me know if there is any thing I can do from this end.

Thanks

<name removed> 06:01, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Ami,

The comments posted on the village pump will not be removed. As I said before, that page is periodically archived, but no remarks should be removed from it with out a very valid reason.

Whatwould be considered a valid reason. Would the truth be one.

Thanks

<name removed> 06:52, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Ami,

I just changed my user name. Can you please start the deletion process.

Thankyou

<name removed> 07:30, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Ami,

Thank you for taking care of the article headings and deleting user and talk page.

In reference to your message below, I do feel it is absolutely necessary to remove any web site address from your talk page. Including the Silkwood site since that has also shown up on google now. www.silkwoodproject.com Under AmiDaniel talk.

As I said earlier, I was not aware that these private messages to you would show up on google.

Thanks again for your kind assitance, profesionalism and co operation.

Best regards,

JL

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If you feel it necessary, however, I will remove any mention of your site's web address from my talk page, but I'd prefer to keep the rest of the messages intact

JohnLe 17:29, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		Your amicable and collegial personality alone would merit this barnstar, but you are to be specially commended for helping a user to remove references to himself from various talk and user pages, despite your having initially interacted with the user in view of his adspamming. Joe 17:42, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps that's too much detail for a barnstar; feel free to refactor or move to your user page as necessary. I can't imagine that most Wikipedians would have been as patient with a new user whose contributions were generally (probably avolitionally) disruptive; even as I wouldn't have been incivil, I certainly wouldn't have spent the time on the matter you did and likely would have eschewed helping the user altogether, especially in view of his incessant, intemperate, and sometimes incomprehensible missives. Joe 17:42, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

vandalism?

when on earth did i vandalise? i havent edited anything since Jacek Kyrzynowek? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 220.240.131.192 (talk • contribs) .

It may not have been you personally, but someone from this IP address did vandalize: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]. You can avoid the frustration and confusion of receiving messages that are not intended for you by registering for an account. Thanks. AmiDaniel (talk) 17:37, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Rockefeller Report

just curious why is the entry on the rockerfeller report considered vandanism? Lee Wells 21:51, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

I never suggested that the article was vandalism; rather, it is unencyclopedic and copied from another content provider, namely NPG. I also have some reservations about the notability of the topic; thus, I have PRODed the article. If you disagree with its deletion, please try to improve the article to address these concerns. Once you believe you have addressed them, feel free to remove the PROD tag or contact me to remove it. If it is de-prodded, I may list it WP:AfD to gain community consensus either for or against its deletion, but I will not do that if my reservations about the article can be resolved. Thanks. AmiDaniel (talk) 21:55, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

on noability well let's see it's the only attempt at a national population policy. It touchs on topics still very much in the news. It proposed solutions that might solve some of the problems we still have today because we didn't address them back then. Overall it seems to me talking about population is one of the most note worthy things a person can do.

So what you are saying is that it has to be from a published library reference work before it can be included here?

I'm really new here, but near as i can tell if it says on a webpage it can be reprinted what's the problem?

There's Been Some Confusion

{{unblock}}My apologies. I was trying to fix a bug in VandalProof, whereby User:That Guy, From That Show! has been unable to log-in. I needed a username with a similar character structure to test that I had fixed the problem; however, I failed to declare it on my userpage as I have with my other alternate accounts. I do, however, confirm that this account (User:Der Ami Daniel, With an Exclamation Point!) is one of my legitimate alternate accounts. Sorry for all of the inconvenience and confusion.

By the way, my IP address (71.210.212.81.) has been autoblocked as a result of User:Der Ami Daniel, With an Exclamation Point!'s block, in case I didn't make that clear above. Thanks! AmiDaniel (talk) 03:26, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

You should be good to go now. --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 03:50, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

No problem. I thought you were on a wikibreak for another few days? Maybe I should have left the block in place to enforce it. :p --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 03:53, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Now... you are all good to go :-) --lightdarkness ^(talk) 04:10, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Just a short thank you. Havok (T/C) 09:08, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

No problem. If you need any help, feel free to ask. AmiDaniel (talk) 03:14, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

My Clunge

Please dont delete my 'Clunge' article!!! It is in fact a real thing! I did not write anything abusive or rude and if you ever visit East Preston you will see that we are real! Much appreciated x

Please dont delete my 'Clunge' article!!! It is in fact a real thing! I did not write anything abusive or rude and if you ever visit East Preston you will see that we are real! Much appreciated x Alif-axe 09:51, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, articles must meet certain standards of notability to merit inclusion on Wikipedia, which Clunge does not. I apologize for the inconvenience and misunderstanding; however, I encourage you to continue contributing to Wikipedia, either through improving existing articles or through creating articles on notable people, places, things, etc. Thanks for your understanding, and feel free to contact me if you have any questions or need help with anything. AmiDaniel (talk) 09:55, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

By the way, if you believe that Clunge adheres to our notability standards, please place {{hangon}} on the article and write an explanation on the article's talk page. AmiDaniel (talk) 09:58, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Idiot proof vandal proof

I could sure use one. ;). Seriously, even with the learning curve, I'm beter off with the thing tha w/o it.  :) Dlohcierekim 12:30, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Unable to login to VandalProof

Hey, thanks for adding me to the list of approved users for VandalProof. I've downloaded it, set my username, but it says I can't login. I've checked if I was logged into Wikipedia (and I am, obviously) and I'm on the list of approved users too (obviously enough). I wonder why I can't log in... :( —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cracker017 (talk • contribs) .

Try clicking the "Try logging into Wikipedia" link within the "log-in request failed" message box. You'll need to be logged in on IE with cookies enabled for it to work. Also check that you are using the "monobook" skin, which can be set under My Preferences / Skin. AmiDaniel (talk) 02:54, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Okay, it worked, but for some reason, the rollback buttons are blanked out. Cracker017 03:07, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

They're only enabled when you view a diff. Try loading up your watchlist and clicking on an item to see if they remained disabled. If they stay grey, then this may be related to a similar bug that occurred earlier. You may want to dig through /VP/Bugs to find the relevant discussion, as I don't have a link handy right now. AmiDaniel (talk) 03:10, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I found it, but I found the error that deals with Java on the bugs page. I have only put popups in my monobook script and it still wont work. :( Cracker017 03:20, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof user problem

Zpb52 is making questionable edits with VandalProof, see (see [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15]). (List compiled by freakofnurture, syndicated here by me). Stifle (talk) 13:41, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Copied to /VP/Abuse. I will answer there in just a second. AmiDaniel (talk) 19:03, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

User talk:AmiDaniel/VP/Bugs

Hey bud. User:Computerjoe,User:Wisden17 and I are having some probs with the mod settings - take a look at the page above. Ta-tare sauce! :) - Glen ^T_C (Stollery) 15:00, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I have the same problem as well. Prodego ^talk 15:09, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Yay you're here! We've been having a h3ll of a time. Note the contribs nor revert all edits functions don't appear to be going either? - Glen ^T_C (Stollery) 18:51, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

What's wrong with the contribs fkt.? (I apologize if this is on the bugs page, I just got on). I recently found a problem with the revert all edits that I've now fixed (it was reading timestamps incorrectly). Lemme go look back at the bugs page. AmiDaniel (talk) 18:55, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

No it's actually not I only noticed it within the hour, it comes up with run-time error '8' when trying to revert all contribs - or at least it did will try again - Glen ^T_C (Stollery) 18:57, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Oh, yes, that's the problem I already found. It has to do with timestaps--they worked just fine in April, but once it was May it was no longer able to format the date correctly. I assumed it was because I have my date settings in German (April in German is still April, while May is Mai) and didn't think anyone else would similar problems, so I didn't mention. In any case, it should now be fixed. AmiDaniel (talk) 19:01, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Nope, they're all working now :) - Glen ^T_C (Stollery) 19:00, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

AN/I

I noticed this post on AN/I. IIUC, User:Marlon Fire Thunder, your erstwhile interlocutor, still wants certain talk references to him (under, I suppose, one of his previous user names), deleted; even as I think you've already given enough time to the matter, I thought you might want to take a look. Joe 05:09, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I posted a response more or less asking him to just let the matter go--I'm really, really starting to loose my patience with this guy. Perhaps by posting there, however, someone else might "take over the case," as I really fail to grasp what more he wants done, nor do I longer feel obliged to fulfill his requests. AmiDaniel (talk) 05:17, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

VP User box

Terrific! Glad you like it! (Looks like it's caught on already too!) - Glen ^T_C (Stollery) 19:07, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Not this again!

Hi, it's me again. I've tried talking to the guy that keeps vandalizing the articles for most of the Snowboard Kids games, but he still persists. He seems to show up under the name "Dominic_Marinucci123", but since his actions mimic the previous vandal, I think they're the same. Please help, I'm sick of having to constantly check each article to see if he's made a mess of them. Also, I think he may be using a proxy, because there's a ton of IPs with the same vandalizing behavior.

Sarahsuke 22:44, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Stco23

I am back editing. Because i abused the unblock thing, my talk page was blocked. The dial-up connection was the reason why i am back editing. My message is on User Talk:64.80.222.26. I hope you read it. Thank You.--Stco23 09:49, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

I put the vandalism stuff on my talk page and took off all of my stuff of my vandalism on the other page. Bye.--Stco23 07:09, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof bug

For some reason, reverting this edit didn't work properly. I tried twice. It seemed to think I was reverting an edit to Wikipedia:Why create an account:F; this is what showed up on the warning it produced: [16]. Mangojuice^talk 04:18, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Copied to /VP/Bugs. AmiDaniel (talk) 19:43, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

SpeedyDeletion of non-spam sucks.

I was starting an article on the Yawalapiti tribe, which I saw on a television show on the Travel Channel. I'd tried to find more information by searching Wikipedia and there was no mention of the tribe so I was adding an article. I added a couple links related to the topic to the article until I had a chance to get back to it. It's been only a couple days since I did so and when I go back to work on it the article had been deleted. That makes it rather hard to do any research on a topic if you delete it on sight.

If something isn't spam then it shouldn't be deleted. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mogmios (talk • contribs) 19:32, 18 May 2006 (UTC).

I apologize that the article was deleted, but at the time it only consisted of links and provided no context. In the future, you might want to consider working on these articles in your own userspace where no one but you will touch them. For instance, you could create the article at User:Mogmios/Yawalapiti, and once you feel the article is of decent quality and provides enough content, you can then move it to Yawalapiti. You may also contact any of the admins listed at Category:User undeletion to have the article restored and userfied so you can continue working on it. Please understand that speedy deletion of articles in the mainspace is necessary, and it's already been decided that articles consisting only of links elsewhere (WP:CSD#A3) should be removed on-sight. Again, I'm sorry that your article got deleted, and I hope that you will continue to contribute to it and other articles on Wikipedia. Thanks for contacting me about this, and feel free to contact me if you have any questions or need assistance. AmiDaniel (talk) 19:42, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

BOPP'D!

Master of Puppets has bopped you on the top with a mop! Bops promote not only WikiLove, but also steady loss of brain cells! Hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the Moppage by bopping someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend, and help the chief MoP achieve his goal of world domination. Happy editing! Master of Puppets ^{Your will is mine.} 01:00, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Weepwoo Comments

Phillip is destroying the page of a prominent Chicago immigration law firm. That is not allowed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Weepwoo (talk • contribs) 06:16, 19 May 2006 (UTC).

Thank You

Thanks for helping me and removing vandalism from my user page and his other vandalism, he is very persistent. Philip Gronowski ^Contribs 06:23, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Wow that was insanity, I haven't seen a vandal so crazy... Philip Gronowski ^Contribs 06:40, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it's no problem at all. This is now the second night in a row where there was just a ridiculously persistent vandal and no admins anywhere to be found. Usually, most sysops are so eager to block, so I don't know where they all were tonight. Anyway, I'm glad I could help out with this guy, and I hope he chooses to actually contribute to the article once his block expires (in two days). If not, I've got him blacklisted and will be sure to revert any further vandalism from that account. AmiDaniel (talk) 06:42, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

why deleting the brief bio of Dale Skeen?

He is quite famous in the computer industry. I just add a brief bio of him for the article of "3 phase commit", which he invented. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Junche (talk • contribs) 07:08, 19 May 2006 (UTC).

Mittelmarchthe

Hehe, you're quick. I was in the middle of creating Mittelmarchthe when I realised that it would do better under the spelling of Middle March, and so turned it into a redirect, clicked on the link, and copied the content into that article. However, I got distracted from that screen and only just pressed save now. Thank you for your speedy notice, however! You do good work. Jude (talk,email) 07:11, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

And voila! there's an article there now. Sorry about that; I get ahead of myself sometimes. Glad we got that all sorted out! AmiDaniel (talk) 07:15, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

That's all right! Better you being a bit ahead of yourself than me forgetting to press save, and a redirect just hanging out there in article space that goes absolutely nowhere. Jude (talk,email) 07:18, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof code

Hi there, I'm a relatively respected contributor here with an edit count > 2100, and I run Werdnabot, that does archival and double-redirect tasks. I'm currently working on 'Pedia Patrol, another AntiVandalism tool, and have come across a couple of issues in detecting warnings on user talk pages. I was wondering if I could steal your source code to take a look at how you do it. Thanks, Werdna_Tc@bCmLt 15:33, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

AmiDaniel if you don't mind... I also would like to look at the source code, but currently this software is "closed source", at least untill VandalProof reaches a stable version. (there are also security issues regarding the release of the source code, see the Discussion page for more details.Eagle talk 19:32, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey Werdna, I'm very well aware of your Werdnabot, and, though I haven't had much interaction with you personally, I'd definitely be willing to let you have my code (you too, Eagle). I'm only concerned that you might not have any experience with VB. Despite the statistic that it's the most popular langauge out there, I'm finding that no one is really all that familiar with it. Granted, the code for VandalProof could hardly be called typical VB code--it's sort of a mixture of strange activeX and API handles, JavaScript, and HTML mixed in with a little VB terminology--and the vast majority of the programming I do in the "real" world is CAD VBA (which is similar, yet nonetheless a language unto its own), which has vastly influenced my style writing this. I also hope you don't mind reading through some really, really, really sloppy code, with variables like "Bob" and "Ted." If you have a version of VB handy, I can just package the VBP and send it off to you; otherwise I'll just have to send it to you in an ascii format. Lemme wrap up v1.2 this weekend and then, if you're still interested, I'll gladly send you a copy. Thanks for your interest, and all your great work on Wikipedia! (I'm sorry you're RfA failed; I think you'd make a great admin, although I'm not sure if I voted on your RfA--it was during my Wikibreak). AmiDaniel (talk) 02:50, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

One day I'll remember to add all the talk-pages I post to onto my watchlist.. Anyway, I actually started out in VB.. and am working currently mostly in c#/++. My code is tending towards .NET Regular Expressions, which I just can't get enough of. As for "'Pedia Patrol", it's sluggish to say the least, but I'd like to have a look at how you check for warnings on a contributor's user talk, manage edit conflicts, etc. You're welcome to my code, too. I'd rather an ASCII copy of just the source code, as I moved on from VB6 about a year ago, and no longer have it on my computer (Although I suppose I could import it into .NET.) Thanks for your kind words on my RfA - unfortunately a single act of stupidity overshadowed the entire process. I'm leaving it until late June to early July to accept renominations - I figure that way I'll avoid any further controversy over the matter - particularly if I crank out this antivandal tool. Fingers crossed it'll be a landslide ;). Anyway, as I said, you're welcome to my code anytime you need it - the best place to ask me would be on IRC (my nick is Werdna). Thanks, Werdna_T^c_@^b_C^m_L^t 22:43, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I've responded to your request for spamming on my User talk page. In a nutshell, Rob Church (one of the main members of the bot approval group) does mind if you use my bot with a bot flag, but doesn't mind if you use AWB without one. This seems rather odd and paradoxial, but I don't really want my bot blocked. He told me to suggest to you that you use AWB. Werdna_T^c_@^b_C^m_L^t 11:38, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Boxcar288

Remember that the complaint was a 3RR on an SD tag. Another admin SD'd the article, so you only saw the image edit. I thought removing SD tags from one's own articles constituted vandalism since the tag states specifically not to. My bad. Thanks for the heads up regarding 3RR reporting. Rklawton 06:02, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Ahh, sorry. As I only saw the one contribution from the user, I simply assumed that you had listed the wrong user. Anyway, getting a 3RR or vandalism block on him now would probably be rather difficult, though I do agree that his actions were highly inappropriate (though, as I'm not an admin, I have no way of looking at his deleted edits), and I will try to keep an eye on him. In the future, it will probably help to clarify these matters if you post appropriate warnings on the user's talk page, both because it serves to alert the user that his actions are wrong (often times newbs simply wonder where their edits went and never realize that someone else has been reverting their changes) and as it will let others know exactly what the problem with the user is. Anyway, sorry for the confusion. AmiDaniel (talk) 06:19, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

No worries. I did post warnings on his talk page, but I didn't know what template to use for SD removal. The templates I could find were a little too generic, so I just made it up as I went along. Do you know of an SD removal warning template I could use for the next time? Cheers. Rklawton 06:29, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

You may want to try the {{drmspeedy}} warning set (also drmspeedy2, etc.). I can't think of the exact link to the talk page templates page right now, but they're all detailed somewhere on Wikipedia:Templates. You might also have a look at Template:TestTemplates. AmiDaniel (talk) 06:33, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh! And like a doofus, I posted my warnings on his user page by mistake. I've corrected that. I must be tired. That's a good sign I should turn in. Rklawton 06:31, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Query on proposed deletion

Hi AmiDaniel,

Please could you assist me in rectifying this post to prevent deletion - I am new to Wikipedia and cannot understand what I need to do to prevent this deletion. http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Highway_Amateur_Radio_Club&diff=54091433&oldid=54090790

Thanks,

ZS5Z_brad —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ZS5Z brad (talk • contribs) .

Hi Brad. My apologies for not notifying you that I had proposed the article for deletion, and thank you for contacting me. The issue with the article is that it makes no clear assertion of notability--in other words, it fails to state why the topic is of enough importance to warrant an article on Wikipedia. There's been a lot of discussion about the inclusion of articles on amateur radio clubs, and the consensus tends generally to favor deletion of such articles. If, however, you could provide statistics on how many members the club has, cite any large local or national publications that have referenced the radio club or done a piece on it, or if you could otherwise show how the club has had an impact on the society around it, the questions of the article's notability could be cleared up. If you believe that the group does meet the inclusion criteria ofWP:BIO and you intend to modify the article to clarify these points, then by all means remove the {{prod}} tag from the article. If I, or anyone else, still believes that the article's topic does not merit inclusion, I will then list the article on WP:AfD to gain community consensus either for or against the article's deletion. If you would like any help with this or anything else, please feel free to ask. Thank you for your question, and I wish you luck! AmiDaniel (talk) 06:14, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

supportsoft article under speedy deletion

hi, i am an employee at supportsoft.thought of adding an account of supportsoft activities in wikipedia.i dont see anything that violates copyright or the prinicple governing wikipedia. please reply back immediately as i fear the article being deleted regards, cherian —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cherianthomas (talk • contribs) 08:35, 20 May 2006 (UTC).

In looking over the article again, it appears to be a blatant copyright infringement upon supportsoft.com. Wikipedia encourages original authorship, and, as such, even if fair use is granted for the article's text, it is preferable if you would write the article in your own words. In its current form, the article also reads more like an advertisement than an encyclopedia article, which is strongly discouraged. The company is clearly notable, and so I would like to ask you to rewrite the article from neutral point of view and using your own words; then, it may merit inclusion. I'd also like to ask you to read WP:AUTO. I apologize for the confusion; however, Wikipedia is not a vessel for advertising and self promotion. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. AmiDaniel (talk) 08:44, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Comments from Adamski Heaton

hello how are you i am fine thx this is a so kool websit totaly lol

lol=lagh out loud

lol i cant spell any way better get back to my homework lol bubi

Adamski Heaton

Adamski 08:42, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Sukh's RFA - Thanks!

Thank you for your vote on my RfA. Unfortunately there was no consensus reached at 43 support, 18 oppose and 8 neutral. I've just found out that there is a feature in "my preferences" that forces me to use edit summaries. I've now got it enabled :) Thanks again. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 15:47, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

thx

thx for reverting the Kwon-Sang-woo article back to normal. good work.--Greece666 16:55, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

vandal proof 1.2bug

You should pull 1.2 for a day. The java error still happens. You said it was going to be fixed. Why isent it? --Actown ^e 02:19, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Another note that vandal proof 1.1 never crashed on me and 1.2 does. --Actown ^e 02:23, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Vandal Proof needs .zip

check out my report on the bug reports :-)Eagle talk 02:39, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Alright, hold on. I just made a huge fuck-up doing the notification thing. Bear with me just a sec. AmiDaniel (talk) 02:41, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I'd fix it! If I knew what it was. --Avillia ^{(Avillia me!)} 02:42, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Not Complete Yet?

I noticed you have begun to remove the notifications of the new version of VandalProof. Is the new version of VandalProof not actually complete yet? joturner 02:45, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

It's good to go. I just ran into trouble when I was trying to be fancy in my deployment and accidentally posted "Welcome to VandalProof" instead of the notice that the new version is ready. Feel free to download. AmiDaniel (talk) 02:47, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Image:Vandalprooflock.jpg

Hey Ami, I just felt the need to let you know that the use of the Wikipedia globe in Image:Vandalprooflock.jpg isn't allowed :-\. Especially not under the GFDL, since All Wikimedia and Wikipedia logos are Copyright The Wikimedia Foundation, All Rights Reserved.. I'd recommened just removing that part of the "VandalProof" logo, and reuploading. Any questions, let me know. Sorry :-\ --lightdarkness ^(talk) 02:59, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

It's not really the "VandalProof" logo. It was uploaded by someone else, and it's only being used within Wikipedia, which I don't understand to be an enfringement upon the GFDL or Wikipedia's registered trademarks. If it is, then I guess the image will be deleted. AmiDaniel (talk) 03:01, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I removed it, and can upload the version without the wiki logo if you would like. However it isn't that hard to get approval to use the logo, see the Counter Vandalism Unit's logo. Prodego ^talk 03:05, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Damn. I have a fixed version if you guys want it; tweaked a bit too, with the VandalProof eye instead of the WikiGlobe. But your choice. Master of Puppets ^{Your will is mine.} 03:08, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, that has the issue of infringing on Microsoft's copyright. --Avillia ^{(Avillia me!)} 03:11, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Then no eye and just the lock with the name on it? Master of Puppets ^{Your will is mine.} 03:12, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I think the Vandal Proof text on the padlock looks cool enough :-) --lightdarkness ^(talk) 03:18, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Works for me. I just wanted any old image. Maybe just a picture of a kitten :-). AmiDaniel (talk) 03:21, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps is response to the Every time you masturbate… God kills a kitten meme, an Every time you whack a vandal, God saves a kitten is necessary... :) Joe 03:24, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok, done. Not really anything relevant... just pulled up that design. :P I'll make something else if AmiDaniel wants... and anything is possible, so don't pull any punches. Master of Puppets ^{Your will is mine.} 04:59, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm Away

My apologies for doing this right after releasing the new version; however, I really have to go deal with something in the real world right now and will not be available until tomorrow. I honestly don't believe there to be anything with the new release that needs my immediate attention, so please drop bugs, suggestions, etc. on the appropriate forums. The moderators will know what to do if something urgent needs to be done. Thanks for your understanding. AmiDaniel (talk) 03:05, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Smile :)

—G.He has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk pages. Happy editing!

—G.He 03:13, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Mirror

Updated VandalProof files have been successfully mirrored and webpage has been updated. — Nathan ^{(Got something to say? Say it.)} 04:32, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Congrats

on getting v 1.2 out the door. I'll definitely check it out, and thanks! -Mysekurity ^[m!] 06:34, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

URGENT!!!

Please tell me it is only moderators that can view the whole startup list. If not, please tell me why I can see the entire startup page. (including approved users, and the wikipedia logo). Please please tell me that is a moderator only feature!!!Eagle talk 02:51, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Note: please respond on my talk page as I do not watch other users pages(plus I am a bit anxious here). Thanks.

No, there's a slight timer now, so it may take a while for the page to render. If it doesn't return to its normal form then this may be a bug. AmiDaniel (talk) 02:53, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Uh, what I mean is that I see the entire page. (remember before the program hid those who were approved??, the ability to edit the page??, the wikipedia logo? and the navigation toolbar that is normally at the right. This is no timer issue trust me on that:-) or -( depending on your point of view.Eagle talk 02:57, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I see the full page for a second or two, then the edit tabs and nav bar disappear. It isn't really a problem, since the program looks for the last version by a moderator. Prodego ^talk 02:59, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I understand what you're saying is happening; however, I do not know this to be true. It will display the entire page for a couple of seconds--this was intentional. If the entire page remains visible for more than, say, 20 seconds, that was not intentional. In any case, it's not that huge of a security risk--only changes by mods will appear, remember? AmiDaniel (talk) 03:00, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but the prospect of it bothers me... and for me it has been displaying for 10-15 seconds... and no matter what I can always see the approved users, plus a messed up (and I mean messed up) top of the page). It makes me a bit uneasy, as it was something we were able to keep fairly hidden.Eagle talk 03:08, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I'll think about reworking that. If it bothers you enough, you can take down the download and add the donotallow command to disable the app (note, however, that this disables it for everyone). As I said before, I'm off to go take care of unprecedented crap in the real world, so I'm going to be unavailable for a bit. Sorry! AmiDaniel (talk) 03:23, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

It is bothering me, but taking down the program... thats just nasty, especially after we have all been waiting for over a month!!(no fault to you.... in fact it should have been over 2 months... had someone obeyed their wikibreak). I would not want to do thaaat... that cruel:) But can we come up with a version update or something? Just the one update, I'm sure it is something simple, like waiting until document(web browser) completed, rather than displaying immediatly, as soon as page finishes matching your name. (you had it down before... and that was a rather rude and nasty shock...) Thanks for listeningEagle talk 06:38, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I just confirmed my fears... the first VP user found that page and posted on the talk page... go check it out:-(. Would you like a vandal finding all of that "interesting" conversations we had over how to crash your program... I thought so... So please fix this soon. Thank youEagle talk 07:23, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

There... I even fixed (archived) the majority of your completed bugs... over 40 KB of data. Soooo now your turn:-)Eagle talk 08:16, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Spam

You've just spammed about 100 talk pages. Could you just update one page and ask users of your script to put it on their watchlists? Or perhaps write a function into your script that checks for the latest edit to your release page and notifies the user of an update. --Tony Sidaway 03:06, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

THIRD edit conflict. I'd point out that Signpost does the same every week. It's a week, right? --Avillia ^{(Avillia me!)} 03:14, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

What about RFAs? Why don't we just have a special RFA page where people can deposit an RFA thanks or something? And I don't see whats wrong with telling people something; it doesn't say anywhere in policy "thou shalt not make talk page edits". Master of Puppets ^{Your will is mine.} 03:16, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

While a feature, à la that in AWB (where such feature is, of course, compulsory, inasmuch as only the most recent version works), that informs users upon their starting the program that an update is available, I absolutely cannot understand why, efficacy concerns aside, one would object to AmiDaniel's posting messages to the talk pages of each VP user; I certainly can't abide the suggestion that such posting constitutes spamming, a word that, while tautologically appropriate, nevertheless connotes malignancy in action. He's writing to people who have signed up for VandalProof, whereupon they consented to receive such messages as might be relevant to the program, to let these people know that an update to a vandal-fighting tool is available. That's pretty much the definition of a salutary, encyclopedic purpose; I can't imagine why one would object and or ascribe spam (the same term we'd use were one soliciting votes for an AfD or RfA on talk pages) to Daniel's messages. Joe 03:22, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

My apologies. There have been no concerns raised when I've done this in the past (though that may because I usually release later in the evening, when you may have been asleep); however, as my userlist had grown much larger this time, I requested that Werdnabot do it for me this time. Rob Church objected and requested instead that I use AWB and post the messages from an unflagged account. I really do have things in the real world that just came up to take care of at the moment, and as such I'm going to be unresponsive for a little bit; however, I will not continue posting messages. AmiDaniel (talk) 03:20, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

What about an opt-in (or opt-out) list? I really like the messages, I don't check this page too often. --Doug (talk) 09:37, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

VP 1.2

Thanks for the message on my talkpage, I just updated VP and it looks great! --Mbimmler 09:40, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Sysop on Test wiki

There's no procedure, precedent, or RfA to go through. You seem sane and others have been sysopped there for similar reasons. I don't see how it hurts anything and it might well help something.

Done. Rob Church (talk) 10:09, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Now I've got even more gizmos to try to code... AmiDaniel (talk) 10:12, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, compared to me, you're sane ;) — Nathan ^{(Got something to say? Say it.)} 19:08, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Created Moderator User box and Category

This user is a VandalProof Moderator

To add yourself to this category, add {{VandalProof Moderators}} for the user box above, or [[Category:Wikipedians that are VandalProof Moderators|{{PAGENAME}}]] to your user page. Thanks! - Glen ^T_C (Stollery) 23:09, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh noes, my megahertz has been stoled! Though mine was missing the category. :P Master of Puppets ^{Your will is mine.} 23:17, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

MoP: ZOMG! — Nathan ^{(Got something to say? Say it.)} 19:09, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

User page vandalism

I realize that your presumption in favor of leaving messages, even those that are vituperative or disruptive, applies only to your user talk page, but I can't understand your user page reversion. A user removed all of your content and added 30 (?) speedy tags, and you returned your page to the previous version? How could you?? :) Joe 06:31, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Ooh, vituperative, the more I converse with you, the larger my vocabulary grows! Anyway, if you disagree with my reversion, feel free to revert it back to his version =). AmiDaniel (talk) 06:45, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Damn those large words. My brain can't comprehend half of them. :D — Nathan ^{(Got something to say? Say it.)} 19:11, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof 1.2 Now Available

After a lenghty, but much-needed Wikibreak, I'm happy to announce that version 1.2 of VandalProof is now available for download! Beyond fixing some of the most obnoxious bugs, like the persistent crash on start-up that many have experienced, version 1.2 also offers a wide variety of new features, including a stub-sorter, a global user whitelist and blacklist, navigational controls, and greater customization. You can find a full list of the new features here. While I believe this release to be a significant improvement over the last, it's nonetheless nowhere near the end of the line for VandalProof. Thanks to Rob Church, I now have an account on test.wikipedia.org with SysOp rights and have already been hard at work incorporating administrative tools into VandalProof, which I plan to make available in the near future. An example of one such SysOp tool that I'm working on incorporating is my simple history merge tool, which simplifies the process of performing history merges from one article into another. Anyway, if you haven't already, I'd encourage you to download and install version 1.2 and take it out for a test-drive. As always, your suggestions for improvement are always appreciated, and I hope that you will find this new version useful. Happy editing! --AmiDaniel (talk) 02:05, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Looks good, I'll download it. (Don't bother leaving me a message) Prodego ^talk 02:07, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Major props on the new version. it looks very good! --Alphachimp ^talk 02:10, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I can't seem to get the download link to work; any ideas? (ESkog)^(Talk) 02:24, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Does it just lack the extension? If so, just add .zip or .exe (depending on which version you got) to the end and it should work fine. --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 02:31, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

The .exe? Just rename the file from "VandalProof" to "VandalProof.exe", and that should do it. Prodego ^talk 02:32, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I love you!!! Freddie^{Against Userbox Deletion?} 02:41, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Constructive comment: AmiDaniel, it's probably a good idea not to use the site you use to distribute VP. There seem to be a lot of problems and people have to rename files to exe/zip :\

At any rate, just for you: User:Nathanrdotcom/Userboxes/Hug

— Nathan ^{(Got something to say? Say it.)} 19:16, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof

I will use the new version even better. eisenhower ^UTCEQ 16:19, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof (again)

You just added information on the new version to my talk page and then immediately reverted your change using VandalProof. Should I now use the new version or not? --Jpkoester1 16:46, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I replyed to this on his talk page, I assume that was an error on your part. He is still on the list so I told him to download it:-). If I am wrong, remove him from the list and tell him that I goofed. If I caused problems, sorry ahead of time.Eagle talk 19:19, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Moo!

You get a cowstar for being SUPERGREAT!

--217.134.237.125 19:39, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Congrats my friend

		The Editor's Barnstar
		The Editor's or Deletionist's Barnstar for individuals that display particularly fine reversions... I mean, say no more. Congrats on v1.2, Frankly mate, I don't know how you do it. Outstanding efforts, as always. :) - Glen TC (Stollery) 10:22, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar! Now the second one I've gotten from you :-). Though it's really you I should be thanking for all your help with VandalProof. It's nice to know I have people to keep everything running while I'm away. AmiDaniel (talk) 22:44, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

ATTENTION MODERATORS

DO NOT ADD ANY NEW USERS Eagle talk

• For somereason the add user function is adding duplicate copies of EVERY name on the list. (currently I am undoing the damage... so give me time) if there is ANY other problems please contact me immediatly!!
• Give me time to at least fix the damage that has already been caused, Then I will respond to any messages that you guys have Thanks

--Eagle talk 19:46, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

NOTE: amidaniel, this is a copy-pasted message, I will give you all the info in a moment.Eagle talk 19:47, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok, look on the bug page:-)Eagle talk 21:46, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I didn't realize a level 5 header ( == Gah == Sorry about fixing the attackish comment again, I keep forgetting to obey your rules {{mono|:(}}. Mainly, I was doing it because the userbox/template wars are a very touchy issue, and you don't want to get on the bad side of some of the people involved <tt>>_<</tt>. I talked to the user that put the comment there, though. Anyway, cheers! [[User:Master of Puppets|Master of Puppets]] [[User talk:Master of Puppets|^{That's hot.}]] 22:53, 21 May 2006 (UTC) :Yeah, no problem--it's often a hard rule to obey (for myself as well), but I find that it's just better to let people have their say. I sort of find the userbox a little offensive/attackish, and I don't know why he posted that here. I don't even know who the guy is, and I actually tend to be more of a deletionist than an inclusionist, so I can't completely understand. I think I've only ever stood up for one userbox my entire time here, and other than that I could really care less if they all get deleted or none of them do--I have a hard time understanding people who have been on a crusade either for or against userboxes for the last couple months; it seems like an awfully boring occupation. But anyway, thanks for the thought! I'll go contact him now too. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 22:59, 21 May 2006 (UTC) == Mod error == AmiDaniel, I just got "Run-time error 13 Type mismatch" again, I think you need to reset the mods. [[User:Prodego|<span style="color:darkgreen;">''Prodego''</span>]] ^{[[User talk:Prodego|<span style="color:darkgreen;">talk</span>]]} 01:07, 22 May 2006 (UTC) :Done. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 01:08, 22 May 2006 (UTC) == Adminship == I just reviewed your contributions, interested in being nominated? <small>Short and to the point :P</small> <span class="plainlinks"><font color="#0000FF">[[User:Werdna648|Werdna]]_{[[User talk:Werdna648|T]]}^{[[Special:Contributions/Werdna648|c]]}_{[[Special:Emailuser/Werdna648|@]]}^{[[User:Werdnabot|b]]}_{[http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/count_edits?dbname=enwiki_p&user=Werdna648 C]}^{[[m:User:Werdna648|m]]}_{[http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Werdna648 L]}^{[http://tools.wikimedia.de/~werdna t]}</font></span> 01:30, 22 May 2006 (UTC) :I demand to be the first opposition to this vote! --[[User:Avillia|<span style="color:#228B22;">Avillia</span>]] [[User_talk:Avillia|^{<span style="color:#228B22;">(Avillia me!)</span>}]] 01:42, 22 May 2006 (UTC) :And I demand to co-nom. -[[User:My/sig|<span style="color:black;">Mysekurity</span>]]^{[[m:Wikimania 2006|<font style="background:black" color="white"> ['''m!''']</font>]]} 02:00, 22 May 2006 (UTC) :(edit conflict) Well, I have to say I'm honored that you want to nominate me. About a month ago I turned down an offer from Tawker as I didn't think I had enough experience, and I was a little busy at the time; however, I think I'm ready now (though we'll leave that to the community to decide). Might I ask that you wait until tommorow to nominate me, though? I'd like to have my mind clear tonight to deal with a few problems that have been pointed out with v1.2, though there doesn't seem to be anything too urgent at the moment. Anyway, in short, thank you for your offer, and I will definitely accept tomorrow or at a later time. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 02:01, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi AmiDaniel, thanks for supporting my request for adminship! Unfortunately, it ended with a final tally of 45/15/2, no consensus. I may have another go in the near future, once the school year is over. Thanks again! (by the way, I am male =P) -- getcrunkjuice^contribs 22:06, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree – most objections were irrelevant. Oh well, I will try again in July. RE: PS: I disabled section links to try and make it harder for vandals who want to mess up my previous discussions. -- getcrunkjuice^contribs 19:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Isn't 45 (when compared to 15) more than a majority? — Nathan ^{(Got something to say? Say it.)} 19:04, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Ditto? whats the deal?Eagle talk 21:07, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

75% support on an RfA is a pretty tough call, especially given that the "rule" is 75-80% to promote. I think no consensus was probably the correct decision here as there was clear dissent and clear support--it would have taken 15 supports to bring it up to 80%. But what do I know? I'm not a 'crat, not even an admin yet :). AmiDaniel (talk) 21:14, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

SHM

I just got around to testing out the tool and it worked fine. One small detail though, on the target page, I had two deleted edits which caused the tool not to restore the page after the page move (step 4). I was hoping that it would be able to still restore the page, including all of the edits. Does this go under your "NOTE: This tool currently can only handle SIMPLE history merges. Anything requiring selective undeletion or article-history splicing must still be done by hand." clause? When I tried merging two pages without any deleted edits it worked exactly as advertised. I am sure this tool will help quite a few admins (and me, if I ever start doing history merges). --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 04:38, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Hmm ... I'm not sure why having two deleted edits would disable it from restoring the page. Perhaps I need to purge the cache after deleting? Let me run a couple more trials on the test.wiki and see if I can get to the bottom of it, as this should not fall under the simple merge clause (unless you wanted those two edits to remain deleted after the merge). Thanks for testing it for me! I really appreciate it. AmiDaniel (talk) 05:20, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I was testing to see if all of the edits would be restored. Thanks again! --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 07:16, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to test out this tool- History merges are a pain.--Kungfu Adam ^(talk) 12:44, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Feel free to try it out. It's located at User:AmiDaniel/SHM. Note that PS2pcGAMER found some minor problems with it, but for the most part it seems to be working; I could certainly use a few more testers. AmiDaniel (talk) 03:12, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Paging AmiDaniel.

I think you know what to do. --Avillia ^{(Avillia me!)} 00:04, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

You do know what to do, right? --Avillia ^{(Avillia me!)} 00:19, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm a little busy right now. Feel free to leave me a message though. AmiDaniel (talk) 00:35, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

How dare you be busy. Bother me on my talk when you, well, aren't. --Avillia ^{(Avillia me!)} 00:43, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

You no longer have a excuse to be busy. --Avillia ^{(Avillia me!)} 02:09, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

You don't have any time for me anymore! Always on and on with that stupid VandalProof! Can't even get on IRC for a moment for a brilliant plan! You make me sick! --Avillia ^{(Avillia me!)} 03:05, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

This is why you should at least somewhat pay attention to when I need to talk to you. --Avillia ^{(Avillia me!)} 03:27, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I already told you that I didn't want you using the tool--I don't understand why you went and re-added yourself despite that. I'm not sure there's really anything to talk about here. I also notice that you're still using FreeAWB despite stating that you would not, and I've also been noticing a lot of your trolling bad jokes floating around. Frankly, there's not much speaking on your behalf at the moment. AmiDaniel (talk) 03:32, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, I know (or it was at least implied) that my edit-count was a fairly-decent sized part of why I was turned down, and I couldn't get ahold of you, so I gave it another shot when I saw you active. As to the last two pieces; People seem to be thinking my jokes are better, and I haven't been using FreeAWB. It would clearly say "using [[User:Avillia|FreeAWB]]" after it had I been. --Avillia ^{(Avillia me!)} 03:40, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Edit count is relatively unimportant when it comes to sizing up responsible editors, and while it may have been implied that your edit count would effect my decision, this simply isn't the case. Also, I have a hard time believing that you made these edits by hand. AmiDaniel (talk) 03:59, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

User:Gurch/Spelling. Pick a pair and I'll video me doing it using Camtasia Studio. Also, no, editcount isn't much important at all. However, one of the strong suggestions to be allowed to use VandalProof is having a editcount over 250 in the mainspace. --Avillia ^{(Avillia me!)} 04:10, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Giving it one last time hoping this sacrifice shall honor you. --Avillia ^{(Avillia me!)} 05:41, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

WikiCops

AmiDaniel doesn't like over zealous Wikipedia Cops deleting articles prematurely.

Noles1984 15:45, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Me neither. And I hate users who delete so many templates. eisenhower ^UTCEQ 16:19, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I have to say I really don't appreciate your posting this blatantly offensive and intentionally confrontational userbox on my talk page. While I wish that some administrators would place more emphasis on process, I still believe that they are doing what they think is best for the encyclopedia, and I would not resort to attacking them or referring to them as "overzealous Wikipedia cops"--I'd hope that you would do the same. I'd really prefer to stay out of the userbox debates altogether as I find them to be quite absurd and an incredible waste of time--I honestly wouldn't care if the whole lot got deleted or if every userbox was allowed to stay. If you take issue with the way that some articles and templates are deleted, then attacking every deletionist (a category into which I could arguably fall myself) is not the way to go about changing it. Please don't jump to conclusions about people and post similar attack boxes on their talk pages; it's not going to get you anywhere. AmiDaniel (talk) 23:27, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Excuse me from Noles1984

The userbox you received was an error. When reading a post in my talk section I thought you had stated you liked it and wanted it. It was not you, but another user! There was no attack on you. Simply delete the userbox as I am a fervent believer that one should be allowed to delete messages on talk pages that are in error. You sure went to a lot of trouble to shame me. Maybe too much. I hope you will accept the apology Thank you. Noles1984 13:37, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

(sticks foot in mouth) In that case, perhaps I should be the one apologizing--I immediately jumped to the conclusion that you had been mass-posting these on user talk pages without looking through your contribs to verify my unfounded belief (I had just become a victim of the good-faith cowstar spamming seconds earlier, so I was a little jumpy about the whole thing.) It was not my intention to "shame" you, and I'm sorry it came across as such, though I do still stand by my opinion that such userboxes are not the way to go about invoking a change. AmiDaniel (talk) 02:00, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

====</nowiki>) would count, I thought only level 3 (==) mattered. Sorry about that. Prodego ^talk 23:44, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

It's no problem at all. I'm just glad we got it sorted out, and it wasn't anything too cataclysmic. AmiDaniel (talk) 02:02, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Vandalproof Question

I couldn't find the answer in the help pages so... I see you added a vandal to WP:AIV automatically using VandalProof. What procedure does one follow to do so? Thanks - Your brother in arms, Nrbelex ^(talk) 02:56, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

The Report to AIV feature has given people a few problems, so please be careful using it. Whenever you navigate to a user talk page or view a diff, you will see a username in the (yellow/green/red) bar at the top; if you click "Report to AIV" under User Tools, it will prompt you for a description of the vandal and then proceed to post the alert on AIV. If you need any more help with anything, feel free to ask--though I might add that if you post such queries on /VP/Discuss you'll likely get a quicker response. HTH AmiDaniel (talk) 03:05, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Super Toad

Hi, its the noob who vandalized something and didn't know that it was. Anyway, I would like to request an article. Please make an article for my site and title it "Green Frog Studios" the site is on www.thesupertoad.com and I will add anything to it. Thnx Jlhc Oh and if you cant please foward this message to somebody who can/ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jlhc (talk • contribs) 03:02, 22 May 2006 (UTC).

The article was deleted as an uncontested prod; thus, you can gladly recreate it yourself. I might, however, note that the article would have a very, very slim chance of surviving an AfD, so it's likely not in your best interest to recreate it. I'd also note that Wikipedia discourages autobiographical articles, and I'd like to recommend that you keep the article in your userspace. Thanks. AmiDaniel (talk) 03:02, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Jim Fraser

The version up now is about the pol. If reversion continues to be a problem, we may want to seek s/protection. cheers :) Dlohcierekim 04:12, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Jim Senor Fraser

The article about the coach is back up as Jim Senor Fraser. Should we renominate for AfD?? Article claims "he competed for the nation in the Pan-Am Games." That makes him notable, right? W were going to delete this the first time around. Cheers,  :) Dlohcierekim 04:18, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure of the entire history behind these articles--I just closed the AfD on Jim Fraser; however, Jim Senor Fraser seems to be quite unnotable, and the article is wholely unsourced. I've listed that one on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jim Senor Fraser; however, the other one I think we should just leave be--its notability is quite marginal, but having survived an AfD, it seems unnecessary to bring it back. AmiDaniel (talk) 04:28, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

As for Jim Fraser, so long as it can be kept in its current version, I think bringing it to AfD is completely unnecessary. If the edit warring gets extravagant we can look into getting User:JohnJacobs blocked for 3RR for 24hrs, or we can request protection of the article. AmiDaniel (talk) 04:32, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Wait, now I'm confused. You stated on JohnJacobs' talk page that his version of the article was reposted content deleted through AfD. Which article was that? I can't find it in any deletion logs. AmiDaniel (talk) 04:36, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I see you're in on the Senor Fraser fray as well. BTW, great work on 1.2. I've been using it all day and it's awesome. I asked Dlohcierekim if he had AIM so we could coordinate this one, cause I think there's going to be two or three users besides JohnJacobs working on this one. I can explain your question above. JohnJacobs overwrote the original text at Jim Fraser, so that's why it got nominated for AFD. After the AFD failed and it was reverted to the real article, he pulled the information that was there to it's new home at Jim Senor Fraser, which I tagged NPOV and gave him a chance to make it better. KC9CQJ 04:41, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh, okay, that's what I thought happened. I thought Dlo implied that his article was reposted content, in which case it could easily just be speedied under G4. I think an AfD on his other article is probably the best way to go about this, so long as JJ doesn't continue his wheel-warring and edit-warring. AmiDaniel (talk) 04:44, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Is it possible to remove users from the global white/black list?

Take this example... 12.159.57.2 (talk · contribs · count) is a reformed vandal:-)Eagle talk 04:33, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Just uncheck the name and then click Update Global List--it will save only the names that are checked. I originally had it so that only moderators could remove names, but I think I trust the other VP users well enough :-). AmiDaniel (talk) 04:34, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. and note, Jim Fraser and Jim 'Senor' Fraser just got WHEELS(pun intended) JohnJacob just swaped the two articles:-(... and check out the edit summery for the one.... here is the [history]. Eagle [user_talk:Eagle 101|talk] 04:38, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I already noticed that. Why can't people can just edit in a responsible fashion, or through discussion with others? AmiDaniel (talk) 04:40, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

WHY would you want to do that... after all, all you got to do is keep putting you "right" versions up and wikipedia will bow to your will... right... It makes me mad, but sometimes I just laugh about how people can get into there own little "boxes". Eagle talk 04:42, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Globel W/B list

I just realized something... If I remove person X from the list it will update(good so far), but what happens when VP user Y reloads his list with the global list??? X is back on... so there is no point in removal:-(Eagle talk 04:54, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. I had thought about that, but the only solutions were rather coplicated. I guess we could put out an All points bulletin: "Everyone remove so-and-so," which may or may not work (unless it were a "forced" all points bulletin). Let me think on it a bit; I'm realizing I'm gonna have to pipe out a minor revision within the next few days, so I can try to incorporate some alternative. AmiDaniel (talk) 04:58, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea... Think of this one... X adds jimbo to the list... Y and Z download the global list... Z realizes jimbo is on, and removes him... Y now updates his list, through no fault of Y(besides not looking over 500 usernames... or more as the list gets bigger) Y added jimbo back to the list. You see this pattern right?Eagle talk 05:04, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I get the pattern. How about this for a solution: Mods can add an argument to the global list that forces the removal of certain users from all local lists. If you have Jimbo on your local list, and a mod has added the No Jimbo argument, when you load Import/Export it prompts you "Jimbo has been automatically removed from your blacklist" and then takes him off. Sound good? AmiDaniel (talk) 05:08, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes... but, you do realize how big that list is going to get if we don't come up with a better way to take off indefinatly blocked vandals, reformed vandals, and mistake reverts. (you revert me by mistake, don't go in your blacklist and remove me(agian not all the time do you think of it... or you don't realize you made a mistake until say 2 days after) any way you update the black list and put me on the global list... 25 other VP users download this list. how are you going to remove me?? (I used myself as an example... put any honest wikipedian in and you get the same results).Eagle talk 05:16, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with the BL function much at all, but how about...

• A global list is maintained by the moderators of VandalProof. Very specific, very relavant. Categorize vandals based on time since last warning?
• Seperate blacklists, maintained by each user, managed in the same fashion as the vandalism log (IE User:Avillia/VPBlacklist).
• A interface is added to VandalProof for treestyle check-to-include blacklisting.

• Ergo, it starts with User:AmiDaniel/VP/Masterlist/Blacklist, and you add trusted users to your blacklist addition.
• You can check the box next to a single user, and it checks all the Blacklist entries that user has.
• You can also configure automatic updates, and submit specific BL entries for addition to the global list.

• You could also implement the same for Whitelisting.

Presto. Another brilliant Avillidea(tm). --Avillia ^{(Avillia me!)} 05:25, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

A quickly and poorly made example of what I mean.--Avillia ^{(Avillia me!)} 05:46, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Is that programmatically possible?? Another "Eagle Question"(tm)Eagle talk 05:31, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I guess I should rephrase... AmiDaniel, are you willing to program according to that scheme... (that was what I meant above, implied was is that programatically possible in such a way that you are willing to invest the effort) Should I trade mark this too??Eagle talk 05:51, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh, boy. I don't know--I think I'd prefer to stick to the old K.I.S.S philosophy here; while I appreciate Avillia's suggestion, it sounds like an awful lot of work. I'm going to toy around with my idea of the forced removal list and see if I have any luck there; if my method winds up being implausible, I'll reconsider the above. Thanks for your suggestions! AmiDaniel (talk) 02:03, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Edgar Wind

Hi, I removed my own material from the Wind page as suggested on its talk page. I'm working to replace it with better reserach as soon as possible. Lewallen 05:53, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Warning removed. See Incorrectly Reverted Edits or the user's talk page for more information. AmiDaniel (talk) 05:58, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

A Pimp Named Slickback

The character has become notable as a result of his satirical representation of the pimp image in pop culture. He is often quoted on internet sites and is overall a humorous and significant aspect of the cartoon. The source of this article is the show itself. http://www.adultswim.com/shows/boondocks/ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vk231 (talk • contribs) 06:14, 22 May 2006 (UTC).

Alright, if you believe the topic to be notable enough, I'll take your word for it as I'm not particularly familiar with the subject matter. I've removed the prod tag and replaced it instead with a {{cleanup}} tag instead. If you need help with it or anything else on Wikipedia, feel free to contact me. AmiDaniel (talk) 06:14, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

hey

Thanks for the welcome, AmiDaniel, and for all the great help tools. Enough to keep me busy studying for quite a while! Caelifera 06:57, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

No problem! Again, feel free to contact me if you need help with anything. AmiDaniel (talk) 06:58, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I will, AmiDaniel. Is it okay to talk to you about other things or if I just feel like chatting? Caelifera 07:04, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

AmiDaniel, would you mind if I used your 'box' at the top of the page. I like it and it is exactly how I feel about free speech and not controlling other's behavior. Thanks, Caelifera 08:39, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for my slow response. Yes, please feel free to use my box--the nice thing about GFDL is that you don't even have to ask ;-). (In fact, the box I have is just a slightly modified template.) As for chatting, I'd really prefer to keep discussion on Wikipedia about Wikipedia, though conversations do often have a tendency to get a little off-topic. AmiDaniel (talk) 08:48, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof

Should I put my request to be able to use VandalProof in its alphabetical position on the request list? Thanks,

Jean-Paul 13:35, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Please reply on my talk page. I have got to go!

Your RfA is done!

I've just finished your nomination. Feel free to tell me about anything you want me to add to my comments. When you've answered the questions and accepted the nomination, make it go live by transcluding it at the *TOP* (I forgot this) of all the nominations on the page. Thanks, and good luck! Werdna_T^c_@^b_C^m_L^t 19:37, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I just answered the questions, accepted, and transclude it onto the main page (if I did anything wrong, please let me know). I didn't fill in the date for your support, as I figured the note was for you rather than me; however, I did fill in the closing time for the debate. Thanks again for nominating me! I hope that others in the community support me in this task as well. AmiDaniel (talk) 22:41, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

That's good. It's looking up. Werdna_T^c_@^b_C^m_L^t 23:31, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I go on Wikibreak and nobody tells me anything. Hmph. — Nathan ^(talk) 21:36, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Trouble

Have a look at my talk pageEagle talk 02:31, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Wingin' It Entry (marked for deletion)

I updated the talk page for this entry to (hopefully) help justify this article. Could you please explain exactly what about it justifies it's deletion? --Hvanbrug 05:41, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I personally have a very hard time understanding what the article is about--I did not even know it was about a show until I read your post on the talk page. But, in any case, as you've stated your intention with this article, I've replaced the speedy deletion tag with a proposed deletion tag. If you can improve the article and make it read more like an encyclopedia article, then please remove the prod tag once you're done or request that some else do this for you. If the PROD tag remains in place for five days it will be deleted, and if the PROD tag is removed but I or someone else still believes the article does not merit inclusion, s/he will bring it to WP:AfD where the community will discuss the article and reach a conclusion. You may want to check out the manual of style to see what is expected of Wikipedia articles, and you might also read through Wikipedia:Deletion to find out what criteria articles have to live up to in order to remain on the site. If you have any questions or need help with anything, please feel free to contact me. I wish you the best of luck in improving the article! AmiDaniel (talk) 05:53, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

It is my turn to thank you for reverting vandalism on my user page. --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 06:09, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

No problem :-). AmiDaniel (talk) 06:11, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you, Jean-Paul 08:13, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Comments from Theproducer85

im sorry. -i was just joking around. i wont do that again.

-but cant i do a page on me? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Theproducer85 (talk • contribs) 08:58, 23 May 2006 (UTC).

It's no problem--I'm glad that you've chosen to stop vandalizing and to start contributing positively to Wikipedia. You can gladly create an article about yourself within your own userspace, i.e. on your userpage; however, you need to be careful not to add information about yourself to the main article namespace, as it simply does not belong there. If you need any help or have any other questions, please feel free to ask. AmiDaniel (talk) 08:58, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

yeah ok but what kind of articled can i write in the encyclopedia section? if its a person, do they have to be famous? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Theproducer85 (talk • contribs) 09:16, 23 May 2006 (UTC).

In order for a topic to merit inclusion in the main article namespace it must live up to certain standards of notability, or else it will be deleted. The best guideline for deciding whether or not a person is notable enough to warrant an article is Wikipedia:Notability (people). Please read over the guideline carefully before creating an article about a person, as failure to abide by the guideline will likely result in the article being quickly removed. Also, as a side note, I would appreciate if you could please sign your posts with four tildes, like so: ~~~~. That will produce your username and the date and time, which makes discussions much easier to follow. Thanks. AmiDaniel (talk) 09:16, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

question

Theproducer85 09:26, 23 May 2006 (UTC) -like that

can i post redirects, can i post new articles and redirect them to other articles like for example if a person goes by two names, like if the article is like puff daddy, can i post a new article named "diddy" and put a redirect link, redirecting it to the "puff daddy" article? -(thats just like an example, so then people can type in "puff daddy" or "diddy" and still go to the same article.

Yes, that's quite simple. Simply create the Diddy article (as an example here only, I realize that Diddy has already been created) with the following text:

 #REDIRECT[[Puff Daddy]]

It's best to avoid creating double redirects, however, pages that redirect to redirects, as that can be quite frustrating. HTH AmiDaniel (talk) 09:31, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

right but in this case, the certain artist goes by a different name now, so people would most likely type in "diddy" instead of the other old one. like if somebody changes their name or alias, and people wont know where theyre listed in? Theproducer85 09:37, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what redirects do. They enable a user to type in Diddy and be taken to the article they were actually looking for. In the case of Diddy, however, it will take them to a disambiguation page where they will see the article on Sean Combs. AmiDaniel (talk) 09:50, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof

I have added the {{subst:test1a-n}} template to my talk page to tell a helper I need help. Obviously, VandalProof says I have a vandalism warning. If I remove this template, once I have finished with the help, will VandalProof still say that I have recieved a Vandalism warning?

Thanks, Jean-Paul 16:53, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

No, it only recognizes warnings that are currently on your talk page, though I am working on a sort of rapsheet thing to use in the future to make it more accurate and efficient. AmiDaniel (talk) 19:34, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

VP and TB2

Would it be possible to hardcode VandalProof NOT to leave any warning messages on Tawkerbot2's talk page, I've had a few accidential ones so far and it is just a tiny bit annoying (no point in warning the vandal buster is there :) -- Tawker 17:24, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Warnings might be a good indication to a administrator if the bot is going kinky. --Avillia ^{(Avillia me!)} 17:34, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Consider it done; I strongly doubt there's any legitimate reason to warn Tawkerbot2. Keep in mind that VP's not a bot, so any warnings TB2 receives are (assuming good faith) accidental postings by users, and I can only program the app, not the users :-). I'm also thinking that, if TB2 is receiving warnings, then I bet many of his edits are being reverted--I think I may code in something to prompt you when you try to revert a change by a whitelisted user; perhaps that will help cut down the learning curve a bit. Also, does TB2 break everytime he receives a post on his talk page? I'm guessing not, as that would make it pretty easy for someone to put him out of commission, but if it does, then I really am sorry for each of the warnings he got in error. And on yet another sidenote, when's TB2 going to get his magical flag? As impressed as I am seeing him work, I think he's had a long enough review period and demonstrated himself to be 99.99% accurate, and I'd kinda like to be able to hide his edits from RC. Anyway, sorry about the inconvenience, and I hope this works out. AmiDaniel (talk) 19:30, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I believe Tawkerbot2 is not going to get a bot flag, since that would hide its edits from the recent changes page. And since it could easily make a mistake, and since its reverts are things that vandal fighters want to know about, that would be a bad thing to do. Prodego ^talk 19:40, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh, really? I thought he was just having a review period, and then he'd get one. Well I, for one, don't have much interest reviewing TB2's edits, as I've never once found him making an error, but if the bot approval group said he's not getting one, then I guess that's that. In any case I usually hide WL edits, so it's not that big of a deal for me either way. AmiDaniel (talk) 19:45, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I personally like seeing Tawkerbot2's edits, so I can blacklist whoever it warns. ;-) Prodego ^talk 19:49, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Merci beaucoup!

Thank you, AmiDaniel/Archive5! Thank you for voting for my recent RfA, which passed (to my extreme surprise and shock) with a total tally of 66/15/2. For that, I would like to thank you and offer a helping hand in any admin-related tasks that may be required -- it's as simple as leaving a message on my talkpage. Thanks again! -→Buchanan-Hermit™/!? 22:36, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

removal from list of VP users

Hi, VandalProof is a great program, but not exactly what I was looking for... please remove me from the list of users, but do keep up the good work... - Adolphus79 00:37, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Done. AmiDaniel (talk) 01:32, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Whodunit

I have Vandalproof installed and working, but Whodunit gives an error "can't find article" when I try Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Today and occasionally with other pages, do I need to put it in the same directory as VandalProof, was it connection problem (My IE browser showed a page, then said it couldn't and shifted to an error page several times last night) or is there some bug I don't know about. Please leave a note on my talk page. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:08, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Wow! I didn't know anyone was actually using that. Anyway, it doesn't need to be in the same directory as VP--the two aren't really at all related beyond being built on the same platform and using similar components. Are you having problems with JavaScript error messages using either? And, just to go out on a limb, there are a lot of tools, such as Lupin's popups, that have problems with IE, giving errors such as "cannot read data," etc. If that's the case for you, you may just have to try it again after you get those errors, or you could try blanking your monobook. I put up with the errors just because I love popups so much, but I do wish Lupin could find a way to fix it. Anyway, I hope this helps. AmiDaniel (talk) 09:15, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

• Whodunit is quite useful for tracking down who posted a non-signed submission to WP:AFC. :) I don't get any errors in the Internet Explorer when using popups. It's only Whodunit that is not getting along. I use quite a lot of my monobook, so wiping it is not an option, if it's a script error, perhaps I need to put a copy of the VP script error patch in the same directory as Whodunit? - Mgm|^(talk) 09:23, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm dumb... Whodunit? It sounds, from here, like something that figures out who edited comments. Since I gotta derail discussion, where is it and how much do I need to bribe someone to get it? --Avillia ^{(Avillia me!)} 21:18, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that's what it is, a tool that figures out who added what comment--I apologize for the ridiculous name, but it sounded good at the time. Alright, let me see if I can get the link right the first time: User:AmiDaniel/Whodunit (nope), User:AmiDaniel/WhodunitQuery (yay!). Even you are allowed to use it :-). AmiDaniel (talk) 21:22, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

remember these?

The following icons are used to identify the status of bugs:
= the bug has been resolved in the current release, or it was not a bug at all. = the bug has been fixed in the next release. = the bug has not yet been fixed = more information is needed to resolve the issue.

I hate to push, but these are very nice to tell what is going on in different bug reports. Please use them, or at the least leave a comment at the end of each report so I can tell what you think the status is:-) thanksEagle talk 21:05, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Wingin' It Take two

I have just updated the Wingin' It article that was marked for deletion a few days ago. I was wondering if, at your leisure, you could check it out and let me know if this is getting closer to where it needs to be or if there are still things that need to be added or changed before it can stay in the pedia. By no means do I think this article is complete, but I obviously can't get it there in five days. Thanks for your time and input. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hvanbrug (talk • contribs) 09:29, 25 May 2006 (UTC).

Alright! Now that looks more like an encyclopedia article! I removed your signature from the bottom of the article as none of these article's really belong to anyone since anyone can edit them, and I sorted it as broadcasting stub (It's debatable whether or not the article truly is a stub, but having it sorted as such will likely bring others to expand the article even further). I no longer have any intention of bringing the article to AfD as I think you've done a good job cleaning it up. Sorry about how frustrating it is to have someone immediately slaping delete tags on your articles, but it's about the only way to take care of maintanance issues on Wikipedia (you wouldn't believe how much true rubbish gets deleted every day). The best way to avoid similar situations in the future would be to start working on articles in your sandbox and then move them into mainspace when the time is right. Again, I'm always here if you need help with anything, so feel free to ask. AmiDaniel (talk) 09:29, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. You are right. An article should be started in the sandbox. The truth is that I don't know what I am doing. I guess I'll get the hang of it as I go.

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