User talk:AmanAmanAmaTurq

March 2023

Welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for reverting your recent experiment with the page Battle of the Yarmuk. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment further, please use your sandbox instead, as someone could see your edit before you revert it. Thank you. ✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 10:51, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

April 2023

Hello, I'm Ingenuity. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Georgians have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Thanks. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 19:18, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Warning

Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to Tamar of Georgia, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:29, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of citation needed tag

Hello, can you explain why you removed the citation needed tag from List of wars involving Armenia‎ without providing a reference? See WP:BURDEN, WP:ONUS. There is not a citation showing this was a war. // Timothy :: talk 08:29, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CS1 error on Aras War

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Aras War

Hi @AmanAmanAmaTurq: You need to use a gallery for these images to group them together. Here is article that uses a gallery Similarity system of triangles in quite a nice way. scope_creep^Talk 10:52, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Georgian Campaign of Eldiguzid

Hello. I have deleted the page Georgian Campaign of Eldiguzid, because it was an unattributed copy of the deleted article Eldiguzid campaign of Tamar of Georgia, which was deleted due to copyright concerns. Please let me know if you have any questions. — Diannaa (talk) 15:50, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t understand why it had to be deleted, my friend asked me to make it so I did. I wasn’t aware it used to have a page, but I have only one question. How is it a copy right? It’s a important military conflict which led to huge weakening of the eldiguzids and the establishment of a powerful georgian state. I think this article should exist, there are alot of other internet sites which have the military conflict. AmanAmanAmaTurq (talk) 19:45, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Where did you copy it from? — Diannaa (talk) 21:56, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I thought it would be okay to copy it as it had numerous sources and is both on military history fandom and on everybody.wiki (the sites i copied it from), I am really sorry if I caused trouble. AmanAmanAmaTurq (talk) 22:25, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed required

It has come to my attention that you have recently started to edit in articles related to Armenia and Azerbaijan, this editing area is under a community imposed extended-confirmed restriction. Your number of edits is below the threshold for editing in the area, thus you cannot currently edit in articles and content related to Armenia or Azerbaijan, please refrain from doing so, any edits you have done since this restriction was implemented should be reverted, I will take the liberty of reverting wherever it's appropriate. NMW03 (talk) 09:27, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The creation of these articles which I have made regarding Armenia and Azerbaijan were approved by a bunch of people with the Extended Confirmed users whom have also made edits in my articles regarding Armenia and Azerbaijan. There is no reason to delete them, I see you have also deleted ''War over Mountainous Armenia'', however this war is about the Soviet invasion of Armenia, it has no relation with Azerbaijan. The same can be said about the ''Aras War'' and ''Battle of Nakhchivan (1919)'' whom are both related to the Muslim uprisings in Kars and Sharur-Nakhichevan, and are like the War over Mountainous Armenia article not about Armenia-Azerbaijan. I find it appropriate for myself to revert these deletions which you have made due to the reasons I mentioned. And lastly, In the community imposed extended-confirmed restriction about Armenia Azerbaijan it states: Deletion of new articles created by non-extended-confirmed editors is permitted but not required. And due to the aforementioned fact that numerous extended-confirmed users have approved and made edits on my articles regarding Armenia-Azerbaijan it is not necessary to delete the articles which I have created regarding Armenia-Azerbaijan (Battle of Goris is the only one directly related to Armenia and Azerbaijan). AmanAmanAmaTurq (talk) 10:10, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Being approved by a bunch of extended confirmed editors" is not how it works. Oh well, I'm not gonna bother reverting your second revert of the redirects, as I guess deletion is not required (not that I can delete pages outright anyways). LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contributions)} 10:29, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I understand where you are coming from however many Extended Confirmed editors have visited my page and left edits on it aswell which contributed to the article, I do not understand how it is necessary to delete the articles I have created. Out of the articles whom were ''reverted'', only one is directly related to Armenia-Azerbaijan and that one is the Battle of Goris. The War over Mountainous Armenia relates to the Soviet invasion of Armenia, the Aras War and Battle of Nakhchivan (1919) relate to the Muslim uprisings in Kars and Sharur-Nakhichevan. I am sure that if my articles are wrong then they would have been deleted by wikipedia Adminstrators a long time ago. AmanAmanAmaTurq (talk) 10:34, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Eh, don't worry too much about it. I recommend that you go and do edits in other areas and whenever you become extended confirmed, you come back to them. LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contributions)} 10:38, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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July 2023

To enforce an arbitration decision, and for violating GS/AA Remedy A, again, and apparent WP:GAMEing to reach 500/30 status, you have been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia.

If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing blocks (specifically this section) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Please copy my appeal to the [[WP:AE|arbitration enforcement noticeboard]] or [[WP:AN|administrators' noticeboard]]. Your reason here OR place the reason below this template. ~~~~}}. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard, I suggest you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me (by email), before or instead of appealing on your talk page.

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Noting that I've received your email: please write any further questions or appeals on this page. The reason for the block is that you appeared to be engaging in WP:GAMEing behavior to reach extended-confirmed status, and that you did so by editing articles within the scope of WP:GS/AA Note the text of GS/AA carefully: like most Wikipedia topic sanctions, it applies to the topic area (in this case "Armenia, Azerbaijan, and related ethnic conflicts") broadly construed--that is to say, any text on Wikipedia related to Armenian or Azerbaijani history, identity, monuments, government etc. is off-limits to editors who have not reached extended-confirmed status. This restriction was approved by the community due to extreme disruption to these topics by editors abusing the use of multiple accounts. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 20:42, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I understand and I was genuinely wrong for attempting to reach extended confirmed user and I apoligize for it, however I believe it’s so unnecessary to delete the wikipedia articles I had created, and out of the deleted ones only one is directly related to Armenia-Azerbaijan (Battle of Goris). The three other are referring to the Red Army invasion of Armenia and Muslim Uprisings in Kars Sharur-Nakhichevan (War over Mountainous Armenia, Battle of Nakhchivan 1919, Aras War). And a lot of extended confirmed users made edits on my articles and there were no issues. Could you atleast bring the articles I created back which? I spent a lot of time on them especially researching the sources, and I was warned to stop creating articles about Armenia and Azerbaijan and I did stop and there were zero issues until today. AmanAmanAmaTurq (talk) 22:07, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to add to my latest reply that the person @NMW03 even removed one of my articles which was completely unrelated to Armenia-Azerbaijan, using the argument “redirecting article created by non-EC user who is blocked” (same person who began deleting my articles earlier today) however the article he did this to is regarding Turkey-Armenia “Battle of Mastara”, this article and many others of mine he deleted have nothing in relation with Armenia-Azerbaijan. I don’t understand why nothing is being done about this user’s actions? Out of the 5 articles I made that he deleted/reverted only a single one was directly related to Armenia-Azerbaijan.. AmanAmanAmaTurq (talk) 22:31, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I'm not going to do that at your request. If another, extended-confirmed editor in good standing independently requests that content be restored (read: do not ping or otherwise contact people to request that they do this), I will honor that request. Further, as I already pointed out, clashes between Armenia and Turkey also are covered by GS/AA : anything related to Armenia is covered by the restriction (as well as being a designated contentious topic). _signed,Rosguill ^talk 22:36, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Many extended-confirmed have made edits on these pages of mine (Armenia-Azerbaijan, Armenia-Turkey) contributing to them. The same pages whom were deleted, I can cite their names if you wish. AmanAmanAmaTurq (talk) 22:39, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Having reviewed your editing history, the only contributions you made that were actually deleted by an administrator were at Georgian Campaign of Eldiguzid, nearly a month ago, for copyright violation. Content removed by NMW03 was not deleted, it was blanked-and-redirected, which can be contested by any editor in good standing at any time. In other words, if the editors you believe so highly approved of your work remember it and wish to bring it back, they can do that themselves at any time, no need to get an administrator involved. But again, you appealing to them directly is WP:CANVASSing, which is not allowed. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 22:51, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am aware, I won’t appeal to them. Could I know atleast when I will be unblocked and could you reply to my other message aswell I am a bit confused as to why my pages about Georgia-Armenia were blanked and redirected aswell. AmanAmanAmaTurq (talk) 06:40, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You need to request an unblock by following the instructions in the brown template at the top of this section. It will then be reviewed by an uninvolved administrator, typically within two weeks. Once again, Georgia-Armenia articles are also covered by GS/AA: anything related to Armenian politics, history, culture etc. is covered by GS/AA and CTOPS. I will add that it is highly unlikely that you will be unblocked unless you can, in your own words, explain what edits are barred by GS/AA. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 14:06, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And I have just found out that the same user has deleted/reverted my articles who were related to Georgia-Armenia “Battle of Alaverdi” and the “Battle of Sadakhlo” Using once again the same “non EC user blocked” argument. What do these battles fought between Georgia and Armenia have in relation with Armenia-Azerbaijan, I don’t understand how this user is allowed to continue removing my articles who have zero relation with Armenia and Azerbaijan. AmanAmanAmaTurq (talk) 22:37, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]