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Wikipedia:Meetup/Tampa -- You're invited! Hires an editor (talk) 02:14, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Lamalif

Hi, I see you deleted this as a copyvio. The source has a disclaimer saying it releases content under the GNU. I had made a note about that when I redid the sources. Did I miss something. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 13:18, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Not sure. I am not comfortable with verbatim copying of text into WP. Just because they release under GNU, can we blatantly copy? Not sure IMO, but then I'm not an expert in copyvio issues. I'm not going to make a fuss about it, else this would not be the place to discuss, but in WP:CP. -- Alexf⁴² 13:34, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Oh hey

I have nothing to say, I'm just having a good day and wanted to wish you a good day too. :-) --Kizor 15:56, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you then. -- Alexf⁴² 16:21, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Dog World Magazine COI

You said there is a conflict of interest for me to edit the Dog World page. I am in fact the editor of Dog World magazine. The historical information on the Dog World page is wrong. I am only trying to correct the misinformaion (i.e., the date the magazine was first published [Jan. of 1916, not Jan. 1915], who owned the magazine during certain years and removing the strange statement that says Dog World is going to honor those who devoted their lives to Dog World...). I am not going to editorialize or elaborate in any way other than to state the correct historical facts. Thank you.DogWorldEditor (talk) 16:10, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

What?

Im not sure what you mean when you said not to communicate with people. I only ever talk about the topic on Discussion pages.--Super Badnik (talk) 18:22, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your assistance

Dearest Alexf,

Thankyou for the instruction.

Just one question though; have you written a newbie page - Wiki is quite a great deal to Master.

The Nation Builder

The Nation Builder (talk) 18:35, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

If by "newbie page" you mean creating a new page from scratch (either writing it yourself or translating an existing page from a interwiki), yes I have actually created over 100 of them (you can see the list in the "Articles" section of my User Page). As long as the subject matter is notable and you can show reliable sources the page will be allowed to stay, either it will not be contested by another editor or it will pass muster if contested. Indeed, it may seem daunting at first to abide by the many rules and policies but if you take it slowly, read help pages like Your First Article and ask for guidance, it is very doable. -- Alexf⁴² 17:02, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Changing name of article "GPOCS" to "GPOP"

Pattersonmap (talk) 15:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

I would like to have the name of the article or GPOCS changed to GPOP, GPOCS has been superceded by GPOP and GPOCS is no longer available.

Is it possible to change the name of the page? or can you do it?

thank you Michael Patterson

Yes it is possible as long as there is a valid justification and you can show reliable sources. You can do it yourself by clicking on the "move" tab on top then typing the new name and explaining the reason. For more details please read Help:Moving a page. -- Alexf⁴² 16:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Re:Bueno verte de nuevo

Thanks for the welcome! Nevertheless, I will not be spending more than an hour a day on Wikipedia. But that's at least something!

Keeping a portal sounds like a lot of work. Is it supposed to be updated daily, weekly or monthly? Anyway, good luck with the portal; let me know if you need a hand. Mariano(t/c) 07:13, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

The photo and article are on a monthly cycle (with several pre-loaded already), news, when they happen, so they are always welcome if you have them, as long as they are fit to print. I try to do few about politics, for example. -- Alexf⁴² 09:37, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Hm, I'm not very up-to-date, as I'm again living abroad. But I'll try to put something whenever I see it fit. Take care, Mariano(t/c) 09:54, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Oh. Didn't know you were. Donde? (That makes two of us as you know :-) -- Alexf⁴² 09:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Colombia's article protection did not take place.

Today, I checked the history of that page and it seems like your attempt to protect the page from anonymous users was not successful. The page was edited again, and references to statistical data were removed without previous discussion. Perhaps, if you have a chance, you can look into the situation?

Thank you for your time and assistance. Likeminas (talk) 15:36, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

It was not semi-protection (done to protect from anonymous IP vandals), but move protection only as there is no valid reason for the article to be moved (renamed) without discussion first. I'll take a look but if you require protection, the best, and fastest place to request is at WP:RFPP. Thanks. -- Alexf⁴² 15:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Apology

Sorry, I just trod slightly on your toes, by warning User:FineEyewear while you were blocking him. I was coming from his talk page to the block page and found you already on the job. --Anthony.bradbury^"talk" 20:09, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

No problem. Been there before. Happens often. Just removed the duplicate notice. -- Alexf⁴² 21:05, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the speedy work

Thanks for reacting so quickly here. Recent deaths always seems to be a hotbed of this sort of vandalism. --SSBohio 22:36, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

HEY THERE (:

um. I made an article about the company Vertigo Bird and you deleted it cause you said it did not indicate the importance of the company. What exactly should i do?

have a nice day :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vertigobird (talk • contribs) 11:48, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello. For all the answers to your question please read: CORP, BFAQ, and COI. Also please know that your name may be in violation of Wikipedia's Username policy. -- Alexf⁴² 12:31, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Deleted Soocial page

Hi, I noticed that the Soocial page was deleted by you for reason of not being notable enough (code A7). I was wondering what was lacking in the article? Is it expected for an article to have more references? (these can be provided) I saw the startup Soocial linked on a website to the 'Social' wikipedia page and that's when I decided that Soocial needed their own page.

Thank you for your time, Spazmaster 16:00, 13 August 2008 (GMT +1)

I'd like to ask for your help please...

The deletion log shows you deleted the last version of Ahmed Omar. Could you verify that the previous iterations had no connection to Guantanamo captive Ahmed Umar Abdullah al Hikimi?

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 18:46, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Don't know. I delete lots of articles a day (unfortunately we do receive a fair share of unencyclopedic articles). I went back through the logs for the past few weeks and did not find the article you mention. As you know the one you linked here redirects to the Ahmed Umar one. Could you be more specific on the name of the deleted article? -- Alexf⁴² 22:44, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

PT-Wiki SUL

Please check [1], because your request, there, is not correct and is canceled until you follow the instructions. Regards. Belanidia^Hey! 19:09, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Obrigado Belanidia. O pedido foi feito novamente. -- Alexf⁴² 22:21, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Question for Valentino: The Last Emperor creation page

Hi there,

I recently tried to submit a new page for the film "Valentino: The Last Emperor," and I was flagged down saying that this was promotional, etc, etc. I assure you that I apologize for any inconvenience, but I am writing directly from the production company so that we may be able to establish this page on wikipedia. I can include more basic info and not a detailed synopsis if that helps. Please let me know if this can be done at info AT valentinomovie DOT com. We would like to have this resolved as soon as possible so that we can have the most accurate info out there regarding our film. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.252.134.18 (talk) 20:49, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately the line above: "I am writing directly from the production company so that we may be able to establish this page on wikipedia" says it all. It is in direct violation of Wikipedia's policies. You should not write an article for one of your company's products and you should not use Wikipedia as a promotion vehicle. Please read the policies on Business FAQ, conflicts of interest, and advertising. Thank you. -- Alexf⁴² 22:49, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

LC and Smileey

LC and Smileey are just another smosh but in girl terms. Smosh has a Wikipedia page. So should LC and Smileey.They might go down in history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LJ12 (talk • contribs) 01:11, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Aha. And in English that is.. what? Never mind. The article was not encyclopedic and was deleted as per policy. Please also note that any article has to demonstrate notability on its own merits. -- Alexf⁴² 01:16, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

My block

Thank you. freshacconcispeaktome 01:39, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I looked at your record and it is good. It pained me to block you but I could not block him and not block you as both were in 3RR violation and the rule is clear and both had to be done. Granted, you got a shorter block, as his violations are plenty more serious. Sorry but I felt there was no choice. -- Alexf⁴² 01:41, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your instructions. Bit new to this so it's very helpful, I shall take it onboard and make sure I follow the proper procedure from now on. vivavilla 09:17, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Zembly

Why did you delete the article? It had barely been 10 hours since the AfD closed. Dancter (talk) 17:29, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I guess it's my fault. The article had a CSD tag. The AfD tag had been removed hours earlier and I did not see it. Did not know about this particular AfD and I agreed with the reasons on the CSD request. Article restored. -- Alexf⁴² 19:39, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Fabricio Coloccini Joins Newcastle United

http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10278~1366670,00.html

Time to allow changes to http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Fabricio_Coloccini page —Preceding unsigned comment added by BOingball (talk • contribs) 08:17, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Done. Thanks. -- Alexf⁴² 09:45, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

world snowboard day

dear Alexf you cancelled my page on world snowboard day in telling that it is advertising...I am surprised and I think you didn't read my presentation. world snowboard day is a snowboard celebration all over the world ,there is no sponsor and no money around. this is organized by snowboarders for snowboarders...we just try to make that sport more open on masses all over the world. we are recognized by world snowboard federation and we are now developed on more than 20 countries...so why did you cancel my article please ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by FORSANS remi (talk • contribs) 08:49, 15 August 2008 (UTC) why to authorize X Games which is a complete financial tory and not authorize an evennt going on without money ! please tell me..FORSANS remi (talk) 08:59, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

It was deleted because it read like an advertisement and had no show of notability through reliable sources. Also please note that every article has to stand in its own merits, other similar articles don't count. -- Alexf⁴² 10:01, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou!!!!

Thankyou so MUCH!!!! Muchas gracias amigo!!!!!!!!! Thats awesome. Many thanks. As you may know I've done a lot of work on Argentine cinema on wikipedia and the List of Argentine films. I would love to see more articles like this!!! There are some further Argentine movies and actor articles needing transferring from spanish wiki. Could you help me in my quest to get them into English? Excelente!! The Bald One ^{White cat} 21:46, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

I have seen your work on the subject. I may in the future, but my main area of editing work is translation and creation of Argentine War of Independence and Argentine 19th-Century history articles which are sadly lacking of are just stubs. I have a long ToDo list of articles and I took this film as a diversion from my usual subject. I would suggest you place a request at the Wikipedia:Argentina-related regional notice board. Not that many people there will jump to help but I'll see it and may take on another project like this in the future. I would also ask as a favor to please give the Guerra Gaucha article a once-over and correct my poor grammar. Also, (this is the extortion part), I'd love a comment/criticism on my work on Portal:Argentina as I'm basically the sole active maintainer and would love to get it to Featured Portal status. Even though I put a request in several places for almost two months, I got not one measly comment or criticism. Thanks. -- Alexf⁴² 21:57, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Carfun Footprint Def Change

Our Carfun Footprint definition was deleted a few days ago. What do we need to do to get it posted? I read the rules of posting and think that it comes from an objective position. Let us know what needs to change. Thanks for your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Minibssp (talk • contribs) 22:21, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

It read like a plug for the carfunfootprint dot com company. You need to read and understand WP:BFAQ, WP:COI and WP:CORP (some of which you may have already read). These pages will give you an idea of what's needed to be acceptable within Wikipedia's standards. Also please remember to sign your posts in Talk pages by adding four tildes (~~~~) at the end. Thanks. -- Alexf⁴² 22:48, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Help needed

Hi, I think I found an article which is a complete copyright violation. It was uploaded by some unknown user, and has been since expanded by anonymous users only. Can you check it? The article is Més que un club and I put the original links in Talk:Més que un club. HaGamal 23:26, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

I checked and it does look like a copyvio even though it has been reworded some. I placed a db-copyvio tag so we inform other admins to take a look as I'm not 100% sure on this one (it might be borderline). What's surprising to me is that it went on for so long unchallenged until you brought it to my attention. -- Alexf⁴² 23:41, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind and quick help. HaGamal 10:28, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Cassi Davis

I understand this will appear generic considering your reputation however I reverted your deletion of the Cassi Davis article, she has appeared in numerous films and is a recurring main character in a telivision series. Furthermore I have added references to prove all unverified claims, please take into consideration before deleting an article not all users are as advanced as yourself and few are capable of meeting quality standards you have set for an article in order for it to be considered worthy of placement on Wikipedia. Surely however an NAACP award nominated American actresses meets the requirements for notoriety on Wikipedia. I do not intend to go on a rant or start an argument, but it remains unclear why these article was deleted. Certainly Davis exists, she's on telivision every other night and has biographical information on a variety of websites.UniversalBread (talk) 00:43, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments on the deletion review page. -- Alexf⁴² 01:33, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Deletion review for Cassi Davis

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Cassi Davis. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review.
I would also like to request that the article be restored into my userspace for examination and possible expansion and improvement. Thank you. -- ArglebargleIV (talk) 01:04, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments on the deletion review page. -- Alexf⁴² 01:33, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the comment, and I apologize for bringing that to DRV when I should have brought it directly to you at first. -- ArglebargleIV (talk) 13:20, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Flatmancrooked link on Borges page deleted???

An intern for fmC recently added our link to the Borges page, noting that we're publishing a Borges story currently out of print (ISBN 978-0-9820348-0-4). The link and bibliographic information were both deleted and we are trying to figure out why. The translation of this story and its publication are noteworthy, and the work deserves a readership. We've obtained permission directly from Maria Kodama, Borges' widow. Please let us know how we can make a note of this on the Borges page. Reach us at editors@flatmancrooked.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.127.230 (talk) 02:26, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

You can't. It is an advertisement and against several Wikipedia's policies. Please read the page on advertising, and WP:COI. Please understand that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a sales catalog or the store at Amazon. Thank you for your understanding. -- Alexf⁴² 10:25, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of Sonny Jeffries

Why? It is a for real person and they for real think their all bloods and it had enough info in their for thinking about sonny Jeffries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HairyPerry (talk • contribs)

It was deleted for the stated reason: A7, lack of notability assertion. In order to stay an article like that has to at least comply with WP:BIO. It didn't. -- Alexf⁴² 12:43, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

ALLEA

You deletion of ALLEA was wrong. It was absolutely rash, at best. A national academy of science is an organization in which only the country's most elite scientists are members. These are generally considered important organizations.

I don't think there's anything wrong with taking into account that the article was written by one of Wikipedia's most respected contributors. Michael Hardy (talk) 05:41, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I didn't say it is not notable. I said it does not show notability as it had no sources on a one sentence stub. -- Alexf⁴² 10:16, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I think it clearly does show notability. Michael Hardy (talk) 22:56, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Diego de Alvear y Ponce de León

Hi. Could you translate this? The Bald One ^{White cat} 10:51, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Will work on it. Thanks. -- Alexf⁴² 12:12, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Done. -- Alexf⁴² 16:54, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Its pretty good thanks although it will need some copy editing. How do you go about translating it? Do you just use a translation engine? The Bald One ^{White cat} 17:07, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Translation engine? Hell no! I copy the article by sections to a text editor (offline) and then translate myself by paragraph on the fly as time permits. When a section is finished I do a quick proofread and try to find typos, and do basic copy-editing as the first pass is a direct translation from the Spanish copy. Then port to the article and press Show preview to identify red wikilinks and try to fix those. Then repeat and rinse. -- Alexf⁴² 17:16, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Thats what I thought! It seemd to good to be a transaltion ewngine but also there were some awkward phrases which don't translate to easily. I started Supreme Court of Justice of Costa Rica earlier. I;ve made a good start any help you can give translating any of the smaller sections would be much appreciated. For Costa Rica it is a core article I think The Bald One ^{White cat} 17:26, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Speedy deleters help vandals

Just to let you know that there's a thread at WT:CSD sparked by a deletion you made. I don't think you need worry too much though - it's a bit of a storm in a teacup. Iain99^{Balderdash and piffle} 12:07, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Didn't know. Will go over there and see. Thanks. -- Alexf⁴² 12:12, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletions

Hi, Alex. There is a discussion at WT:CSD about a reason deletion of yours, Cassi Davis. Since I wasn't sure if this was a one-off accident or if you had forgotten that we need to check history, I had a quick look at some of your recent deletions, and I see that you restored another deletion of yours here for a similar reason. Just wanted to remind you that we need to look at the article's history precisely for those reasons. :) Sometimes the history will save the article.

I'm also wondering, now that I've looked at your recent deletions and at your talk page, if you may not fully understand WP:CSD#A7. You tell another editor above that "In order to stay an article like that has to at least comply with WP:BIO." You tell another, "I didn't say it is not notable. I said it does not show notability as it had no sources on a one sentence stub." A7 doesn't require proof of notability. It only requires a suggestion that an article could be notable. As the criterion says, "This is distinct from questions of verifiability and reliability of sources, and is a lower standard than notability; to avoid speedy deletion an article does not have to prove that its subject is notable, just give a reasonable indication of why it might be notable." At the point that you deleted Tambuco, for instance, it included an assertion that the band was three-times Grammy nominated. The article on Andy Wheating indicates that he is an Olympic runner. Both of these are assertions of significance and, even though unverified, in fact are assertions of notability as we define it. WP:Athlete includes "Competitors who have competed at the highest level in amateur sports." WP:MUSIC includes "Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury or Grammis award." Wikipedia:CSD#Non-criteria states that notability is not in itself a reason for speedy-deletion, expanding that "Articles that seem to have obviously non-notable subjects are only eligible for speedy deletion if the article does not assert the importance or significance of its subject." Articles like those two should be handled through other processes.

I think you do great work at CSD and certainly perform a valuable function. I used to spend 90% of my wikitime there, but have been able to dedicate myself recently to new challenges thanks to an increase in admins who are willing to help out there. I know that sometimes those CSDs seem to pour in out of nowhere, and keeping on top of that backlog is a never-ending challenge. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 12:21, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

OK. You may have a point there. I will review A7 and my recent deletions in detail and fix my understanding of A7. Thanks for the heads up. Now if we could reduce the number of kids that think their garage band is notable... -- Alexf⁴² 12:26, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

That would make life a lot easier. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 12:29, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Natural Beauties

This article is not eligible for deletion under A7, because the subject matter is a book. Per WP:CSD, "A7 applies only to articles about web content or articles on people and organizations themselves, not articles on their books, albums, software and so on" EVCM (talk) 13:39, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Article restored. Thanks for the heads up. -- Alexf⁴² 13:45, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

deletion of keltie colleen!

excuse me , 'alexf' why did you delete my page , titled , 'keltie colleen'??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kateleyden (talk • contribs) 14:02, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

San Ignacio Miní

The problem is that there was no article to revert back to the first 4 edits to the article were the complete text of the site. Gnangarra 04:59, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Info

You deleted one of the contribs referred to here. Thought you should be aware of the "discussion". If you want any further info feel free to ask. Cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 07:21, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Replied in that user's page. Thanks. -- Alexf⁴² 10:24, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Appreciated - I keep getting emails... --Herby ^{talk thyme} 10:39, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Javier Saviola

Hi, AlexF I responded to you on my talk page. Sorry, I'm new to editing on wikipedia, but if you could get back to me that would be great. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.129.212.12 (talk) 17:18, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

responded in your page to keep the conversation in one place. -- Alexf⁴² 15:11, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Why did you post a warning?

Hey, why did you post me a warning? I was not vandalising? Those facts have NO CITATIONS given. What's wrong with posting notices on them? I mean, it's Wikipedia policy only, nothing goes in an article without proper references. So if somebody says that a fork is an eating utensil, they would have to cite the source. Otherwise stuff like original research prohibition on wikipedia should also be disallowed. If somebody writes that tea is a beverage from this and this plant, they would have to cite their sources. Please do reply to this message and don't give me a reason like "everybody knows what a fork is" or "such things don't need citations", because all that is SUBJECTIVE, you get me? Wikipedia lists ONLY THE FACTS. And something exists only on wikipedia if it has proper sourcs. So instead of giving me "only warnings" like this, take a moment to read through this, and rather than just blocking me, please reply with a decent message. Thank You. Serveg;ugbrown (talk) 02:30, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

EDIT TO ABOVE-> I expect a reply, Alexf. It's not fair that you don't reply to users quickly. If I edit another article, you'll be quick to block me, but you take forever to reply. Thanks. Serveg;ugbrown (talk) 02:41, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

First of all, you are complaining I don't reply to users quickly? When you post a message at 2:30 am EDT (Eastern Daylight Savings Time in the USA) you shouldn't expect an immediate response in the middle of the night. Don't forget that Wikipedia is worldwide. A check on my pages would have told you about my time zone. Getting to your warning, posting spurious {{fact}} tags fr everyday, common sense items, like proving that a fork is an eating utensil is a waste of time. Please read the template instructions, specifically the section When not to use this template: Many editors object to what they perceive as overuse of this tag, particularly in what is known as "drive-by" tagging, which is applying the tag without attempting to address the issues at all. Consider whether adding this tag in an article is the best approach before using it, and use it judiciously.

The template should be used for claims where there is a doubt and needs to be verified. You posted it in lots of articles in a very short period of time. Examples from Coffee: Coffee is a widely-consumed stimulant beverage prepared from roasted seeds, commonly called coffee beans, of the coffee plant.{{fact}}

I take it you may have never seen or drank coffee (or tea for that matter as you did the exact same tagging there), else why would you tag such an obvious case? Sorry but too fast "drive-by" tagging looks like vandalism, especially from a new account that has not yet have a history of judicious editing. So the warning was justified. Note that you were not blocked, just warned, as that is the purpose of the warning. To make you think and ask a question as you did here. Thank you. -- Alexf⁴² 09:47, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

sound of urchin page deletion

Hi alex. I created a page for the alternative rock band, sound of urchin. It was a very thorough and comprehensive page for the band. I am inquiring on why it was deleted. Even though the sound of urchin has not had any "mainstream" success, they have three releases on major label RCA Records, a release on Hybrid Recordings (which has a wiki page linked to SOU), articles in major publications such as spin, rolling stone, etc, a video on MTV, performances on major network tv such as the CBS late late show with craig ferguson, a college radio cult hit, and a national fanbase. The band also has members who have played in tenacious d, ween, and other popular major/Indy rock acts, as well as touring with other legendary rock acts such as deep purple, scorpions, dio, twisted sister, cracker, etc. I'm sure you have your reasons for the deletion, but I would like to know what I can do to make the page better, in order to keep it up on wikipedia. The sound of urchin is one of those bands that has been flying under the radar for the 2000s but has managed to gather as much credibilty, history and underground success, if not more than some mainstream "one hit wonder" type acts. Thank you for your time.Tomato11 (talk) 14:43, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Please read WP:BAND. There are 12 criteria for notability there. If you can show which one it meets, by providing reliable sources, then the article is encyclopedic enough. I'll even restore the deleted article so it can keep the original history. As it was, an editor tagged it for CSD#A7 and it was deleted. Let me know if I can help. -- Alexf⁴² 15:19, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Alex, thank you. I will redo the page with the appropriate references. I have to check to make sure that I have the most updated version of the page. How easy is it for me to edit from my most recent version?Tomato11 (talk) 17:29, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Unless you have a copy you do not have access to a deleted page. I could restore the page to your userspace, which will lose the page history (may not be important to you anyway) but has the advantage of giving you all the time in the world, or I could restore it in place and you would have to place an {{hangon}} tag and an {{underconstruction}} tag on it immediately else another admin might possibly delete it again. The other one is to work from your copy (if you have it) and recreate the page from start. Your choice. -- Alexf⁴² 17:53, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Alex that would be great if you could restore it on my user space. Thank you. I will make all the necessary changes from there. What should I do once I am done revising the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomato11 (talk • contribs) 19:00, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Article was restored at User:Tomato11/Sound_of_Urchin. Work on it in your user space to make it comply with WP:BAND. Once done, you can create a new page for it in mainspace and copy/paste the source of your article from your userspace. Once finished, if you want that temp page removed, just place a {{db-u1}} tag in it and an admin will take care of it. Note: I saw you had added a link to MySpace. Please remove it as social networks are not acceptable references under WP:EL and WP:RS. Good luck. -- Alexf⁴² 19:13, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Alex, I have read the WP:BAND and found that Sound of Urchin meet a few of the criteria listed, but i have a question in regards to providing reliable sources... what is the best way to show the reliable sources? should these be footnoted "references"? or links to external websites? im not sure i fully understand how to show these reliable sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomato11 (talk • contribs) 15:36, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Best would be inline citations. Please see Wikipedia:Citing sources and Wikipedia:Citation templates for details. Also please remember to sign your posts in Talk pages with four tildes (~~~~). Thanks. -- Alexf⁴² 15:49, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

UPDATE: I should have said that footnote references (<ref>link here</ref>) would also be fine. -- Alexf⁴² 16:55, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

thanks!Tomato11 (talk) 16:32, 26 August 2008 (UTC) Ok, so I added the references and revised the page so it will comply with the WP:BAND at User:Tomato11/Sound_of_Urchin. Is there any way you can take a look at it there and let me know if i am on the right track? FYI, I removed the history for the time being so i can focus on getting the main info correct. Thanks.Tomato11 (talk) 18:28, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

I am not a subject expert, far from my field but it looks much better. I made the references look a little better than just numbers. I also saw you used HTML tables. Although they are not wrong, it is generally better to use Wiki tables. You do not have to change them but it's good to understand the wiki syntax. -- Alexf⁴² 21:12, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Vote

Please, could you give your oppinion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Argentish? It would be very helpful to have more in-side view of the issue. Mariano(t/c) 12:10, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Done. -- Alexf⁴² 12:32, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks; I understand the good will of the other editors, but it's hard to make then udnerstand that something simply is not. Mariano(t/c) 12:34, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Article deleted.

Hello, My question is on article wiki "Apollo Braun". The article was posted about a man who is in the news, who has interviewed Ehud Olmert (The Israel Prime Minister) when he was the major of Jerusalem. A lot of people have asked about him, and I thought about creating a page about him. However, I am new to Wikipedia and I do not fully know how to use all of the tools, so I am slow at it, and I noticed that it did not show or pop on search engines, so people could not come and check the site.

Could it be possible for the article to be opened again? I am trying to get the article up and running, and I guess other people will want to also add their own information to the page. What can I do to open it again?

Moreandmore123 (talk) 04:44, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello. The article was deleted - as it says in the notice the editor who tagged it for deletion posted in your page - for not asserting notability under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion: it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies. -- Alexf⁴² 10:18, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

why so serious?

Sir, were you born without a sense of humor. Are you aware that no sane teacher actually allows their student to use this website as any academic resource because, frankly, half of the material is misspelled and many other errors. My humorous editing of the article Uranus could not have possibly offended anyone but you. Anus is not a cussword, and to call a term that is commonly used in human anatomy classes vandalism simply because i was discussing my anus is preposterous. Now I have a request that will encourage me to forget your grievance against me. Please give me advice on how to post a page about my local town hero Adam Jacobs, even though no scholarly sources have yet currently been written. Then, I can promise you that any supposed vandalism will cease. Signed, The Joker :D P.S. (Why so serious?):) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jok3r09 (talk • contribs) 17:23, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not what you are using it for. If you want to create an article read Your First Article and about notability. If your hero is notable, then go ahead, else it will be removed. As per your promise, I can also promise that Wikipedia's policies are always in effect and if you vandalize you will be blocked. We prefer you help us writing a better encyclopedia. If you can't do that then please don't contribute. Thanks for asking. -- Alexf⁴² 17:30, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

tick tock tick tock

You haven't replied to my article Alex. And when people don't reply it just makes me...crazy. If you look through my records you will see the vandalism count is rising. Answer me Alex. Or I might just haveta change the place where you live...for your sake I won't post that in a message to reveal that personal information to all the other angry Wikipedia terrorists who you have opposed. Sincerely, Your worst nightmare (Why So Serious Alex?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jok3r09 (talk • contribs) 18:06, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Deleted Article

Comment from User: Kai Tatsu

Hello. Why did you delete an article I started? I hadn't finished it at all, and I added the tag at the top saying it wasn't finished. You deleted it, however. It was an article about the Jedi Religion. Please let me know why you have deleted this article. Thanks, Kai Tatsu, Posted: 14.47, 30th August 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kai Tatsu (talk • contribs) 13:47, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

As the notice clearly said, it was unreferenced, notability was not asserted and it sounded very much like a case of WP:MADEUP. If you wanted to explain why the article is encyclopedic, you think should not be deleted, and delay its deletion for review you should have placed a {{hangon}} tag on it and immediately explain the reasons for it in the article's Talk page. -- Alexf⁴² 17:06, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Excuse me, but you have just largely insulted my religion! You're saying it's made up! It is a known fact Jediism is a religion. Two churches exist already, and it has been accepted by the Universal Life Church. It even says so here in Wikipedia! Check here:jediism. Also, you can look at the Jedi Sanctuary! www.jedisanctuary.org I did not reference anything because there were no books or websites to reference! I hadn't entered any information I learned from websites or books. I was well prepared to enter any website/book I used, if I used it. - Posted 21.38, 30th August 2008.

The article you pointed to is documented/referenced. As per your lack of references, "there were no books or websites to reference" (your words), you have to read the pages on verifiability and especially the section on burden of evidence. Also, I did not say you made it up, I said it sounds like it. -- Alexf⁴² 21:17, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Okay, so you are saying I made up a religion, which is unknown to the world? Alright then, ask the half a million people who belong to this religion if I made it up and it is unkown. Please, make sure you have suitable knowledge on a topic before deleting a page about it. Especially if a page (or pages) already exist reffering to it. Jediism might not be as large or old as a religion such as Christianity, but it still exists, and is still known to the world. If you think i made it up, you should check out the Spaghetti Monster: Flying Spaghetti Monster. That's definately made up! Maybe you'd like to delete that aswell? - Posted 00.36, 31st August 2008 (GMT)

Of course not! Not only it is well referenced but also as real as any other church. You do not seem to understand how Wikipedia works. It is not facts we look for but verifiable facts. As said before, you did not assert notability. The article was marked for deletion under the CSD process. An admin (myself in this case) proceed with the deletion as marked.If you do not agree with it, you can always go for deletion review. Thanks. -- Alexf⁴² 23:52, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

[Update]: I see the article was recreated. Good luck to you. -- Alexf⁴² 23:55, 30 August 2008 (UTC)