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Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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@Kansas Bear Ok, how do I argue with the person I disagree with? Alexandros17 (talk) 11:42, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Go to that particular article and start a discussion on the article talk page.--Kansas Bear (talk) 00:44, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]



@Kansas Bear Hello I need some help, how can I change an article's name? Alexandros17 (talk) 23:42, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Go to the particular article talk page and get consensus to change the article's name. Read, Wikipedia:Requested moves. --Kansas Bear (talk) 00:46, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kansas Bear The article whose name I want to change is not that controversial. On the contrary, it is an article whose name should already be changed, see: "Heraclius Caucasus campaign". Can you change it into "Heraclius' campaign of 624–625"? You're look like an authorized person. Alexandros17 (talk) 02:40, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • "You're look like an authorized person."
I don't know what that means. I'm just an editor. I suggest contacting the creator of the article; User:Gypsygreek. --Kansas Bear (talk) 12:47, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kansas Bear I implied that you were an authority on Wikipedia, but if you're not, that's okay. So, how can I send message that person? Or should I start a discussion? Which one do you recommend? Alexandros17 (talk) 13:04, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest starting a discussion to move the article to a different name since user:Dushnilkin just recently moved this article. --Kansas Bear (talk) 13:22, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kansas Bear Hmm, okay. Thanks for your suggestions and helps. Alexandros17 (talk) 14:03, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

August 2024

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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a message letting you know that one or more of your recent edits to Byzantine–Sasanian War of 602–628 have been undone by an automated computer program called ClueBot NG.

Thank you. ClueBot NG (talk) 04:31, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Alexandros17. Please do not remove the Unbulleted list templates. I do not have any opinion on the flags though. StephenMacky1 (talk) 14:29, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@StephenMacky1 I only made a few edits on some things, I can edit it again without deleting the unbulleted list templates if you want. Alexandros17 (talk) 14:34, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. Go ahead. StephenMacky1 (talk) 14:34, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@StephenMacky1 I noticed something, with unbulleted list templates the belligerents on the sides cannot located correctly (•). To fix this, I need to remove the unbulleted list templates of the belligerents. Do you have permission? I won't touch the other unbulleted list templates. Alexandros17 (talk) 17:39, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What is wrong with their location? There are other list templates, including ones with bullet points.StephenMacky1 (talk) 19:14, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@StephenMacky1 Byzantine Empire
(*)Western Turkic Khaganate
(*)Ghassanids
They are locating like this. To solve this I need to remove unbulleted lists from belligerents. Please allow. Alexandros17 (talk) 00:25, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All right. StephenMacky1 (talk) 08:59, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@StephenMacky1 Thanks, so I'm going to revert your revert on my edit. No offence. Alexandros17 (talk) 10:11, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Hello. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I noticed that your recent edit to Roman campaigns in Germania (12 BC – AD 16) did not have an edit summary. You can use the edit summary field to explain your reasoning for an edit, or to provide a description of what the edit changes. Summaries save time for other editors and reduce the chances that your edit will be misunderstood. For some edits, an adequate summary may be quite brief.

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Please provide an edit summary for every edit you make. With a Wikipedia account you can give yourself a reminder by setting Preferences → Editing → Tick Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary (or the default undo summary), and then click the "Save" button. Thanks! Eric talk 11:59, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:VAR

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I noticed that you're changing BC to BCE. Please stop per MOS:VAR. Thanks! (PS can you go back and revert your changes?) Masterhatch (talk) 04:07, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looking back through your edits, there are several articles you did this to (including changing AD to CE). Masterhatch (talk) 04:13, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Masterhatch Do you want me to change BCE and CE to BC and AD? Alexandros17 (talk) 04:38, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Articles that were BC / AD (and vise versa) should stay that way "unless there is some substantial reason for the change." So, yes, articles that you changed from one style to another without consensus should be changed back. I did two already. Masterhatch (talk) 04:51, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Masterhatch I understand. I didn't know there was such a rule on Wikipedia, I'm sorry. I will solve the articles that I changed from BC and AD to BCE and CE immediately. I'm carrying, don't worry. Alexandros17 (talk) 05:06, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There's lots to learn about wikipedia's "rules". The Wikipedia:Manual of Style is the result of many, many years of editors working together to develop a set of "rules" that works. While I don't agree with everything in the MOS, it does keep the peace. Also, I see no one added a welcome template to your talk page. The teahouse is a great place to ask questions. And most editors are really good about helping newbies. Cheers and happy editting! Masterhatch (talk) 05:40, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Masterhatch Thank you very much for your kindness. By the way I finally finished that BC/AD and BCE/CE issue. And I'm really tired. Alexandros17 (talk) 06:58, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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September 2024

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Information icon Hello, I'm Cowboygilbert. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions—specifically this edit to Ancient Greece—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Thanks. Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 06:12, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cowboygilbert Why did you revert my edits? This is unfair. Alexandros17 (talk) 06:38, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
the "c" in the short description should stay as it stands for "circa" which means around that time period. Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 06:40, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Cowboygilbert I know c is abbreviation for circa, I removed it for the sake of conciseness of the short description. Alexandros17 (talk) 08:57, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:Cowboygilbert, I actually agree that SD is better without "c". It's not needed in a short description, IMHO. Masterhatch (talk) 16:18, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Alexandros17, @Masterhatch since a third opinion on the topic has agreed that the abbreviation of circa is not needed in the short desc, you should be good to remove it. (following the WP:BRD cycle) Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 18:27, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The "c." should certainly remain in the short description, as the article covers an approximate period, not precise start- and end-years. I might suggest an alternate formulation: Greek civilization circa 1200 BC – 600 AD. Eric talk 00:47, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
the talk page of the article might be the best place to put this instead of here. Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 00:59, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, was thinking the same thing when I posted. These templates are good for that, but I'm too tired to do it now: User:Eric#Discussion_move:. Eric talk 02:16, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Do not engage in WP:EW. If you think your edits are being reverted unfairly, use the Talk Page of the articles to get your point across. See if other users agree with you. Expose your views, use sources and try to get a WP:Consensus. But do not engage in EW, it's only gonna end up badly for you, i'm afraid. Take care, Coltsfan (talk) 15:33, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Coltsfan Thank you for your recommendations. I have expressed my opinions several times on the talk pages, but no one cares or discusses. Also, what is it about me that you are afraid of? Alexandros17 (talk) 03:48, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Use the article's talk page. There is the place to expose your point of view. Remember, you can be blocked from editing for WP:EW. So, pay attention to that and respect the Wp:status quo of the article. Coltsfan (talk) 14:47, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Warning icon Please stop. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Cyrus the Great, you may be blocked from editing. NebY (talk) 14:39, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@NebY What did I do wrong? I just added connection and edited Cyrus' father's name. Alexandros17 (talk) 14:43, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This. NebY (talk) 14:44, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@NebY Well, it's "short description", it should be summary. Adding the suffix C. or Circa is a detail and it has already mentioned in the ruler infobox. Alexandros17 (talk) 14:48, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is not a "detail". You introduced a factual error into the encyclopedia. It appears that you also misunderstand the function of short descriptions. NebY (talk) 15:01, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@NebY The absence of the "Circa" suffix in the short description does not mean that the given date is "exact". C. or Circa suffixes' not being detail is ​​entirely your subjective interpretation and only you think like that. Alexandros17 (talk) 15:21, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
only you think like that is untrue. You've been told this by @Cowboygilbert and @Eric, and by @Piccco at Talk:Ancient Greece. To persist in making such edits is disruptive. NebY (talk) 15:36, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@NebY In those discussions, it was decided that I was right. You're the only one creating chaos here. I'm just an editor trying to make Wikipedia better. Alexandros17 (talk) 16:11, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, if you guys ask me, as I wrote at the Ancient Greece talkpage, I believe that the c. is not redundant, because the date is only approximate (like many dates when it comes to ancient history). I don't really think that Alexandros wanted to vandalize the article, but it's just the type of edit that we would call "non improvement". Alexandros, it's good to take some advice by a more experienced editor sometimes, because I'm sure that you edit in good-faith. Piccco (talk) 17:42, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Alexandros17, That kind of mindset will get you pushed away as an editor. We are not here to make it better but to improve and expand the encyclopedia. Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 19:30, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Cowboygilbert What do you want me to do? Do you find my edits unnecessary? Alexandros17 (talk) 11:41, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Alexandros17, Continuing to improve the encyclopedia. Not everyone has the greatest edits or the best edits ever but saying that you are trying to make it better is not something you should say. Instead that you are trying to improve the quality of the short descriptions. But refer to the RfCs that the others created. Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 22:19, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey! Since I see you working on infoboxes and the like a lot, I wanted to make sure you know it's important to structure lists as actual lists under the hood, not just as entries separated by line breaks—see MOS:NOBR, and please feel free to ask if you would like some more help or explanation. I just know it's nice to know you won't feel compelled to go back and fix this on articles later. Cheers. Remsense ‥ 论 03:57, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October 2024

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Information icon Hello, I'm Golikom. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Ancient Macedonians have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Please discuss on talk if you want to change the lead, and get consensus. Golikom (talk) 09:28, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop your disruptive editing.

If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Ancient Macedonians, you may be blocked from editing. Respect WP:BRD and get consensus on talk if you want to change a long established lead sentence Golikom (talk) 10:39, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I already started a discussion of this at the beginning of the month - you can contribute here - https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:Ancient_Macedonians#Opening_sentence Golikom (talk) 11:37, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Golikom I find your actions wrong because you are bringing certain things into discussion. Go look at the article List of Ancient Greek tribes and you will see the ancient Macedonians there. I am not the one who is wrong here. Alexandros17 (talk) 12:39, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
discuss it on the article talk page Golikom (talk) 13:27, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please see MOS:ERA. Remsense ‥ 论 21:35, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 2024

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Information icon Please do not use styles that are nonstandard, unusual, inappropriate or difficult to understand in articles. There is a Manual of Style, and edits should not deliberately go against it without special reason. Thank you. Remsense ‥ 论 19:23, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is like the fourth time I've had to revert you undoing the standard style presentation on Roman–Persian Wars. Every major change in your most recent edit was incorrect. For goodness's sake, please ask if you are confused, because I am tired of this. Remsense ‥ 论 19:24, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Remsense I won't touch that article if that's what you want. I'm just trying to improve it and it's okay if you find me wrong. I'm sorry if I made a mistake, take care. Alexandros17 (talk) 23:07, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, I don't want that! I just think it's important that you are aware of the MOS and that I know how to let you know about things going forward. I really appreciate your contributions, which is why I want to make sure there aren't little problems with them that can cause complications. Remsense ‥ 论 23:08, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Remsense Okay, I understand, you mean well. But Wikipedia rules are very long and I don't really have time to read them and I'm trying to improve articles on topics I'm interested in (like history). And if you think I'm doing a good job, thank you. Alexandros17 (talk) 23:38, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You don't have to peruse the whole thing! I just wanted to make sure I can let you know about points I think would make life easier for you when you need em. Remsense ‥ 论 23:39, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Remsense Alright, thanks. But between all that, I don't think my entire contribution to Roman–Persian Wars was wrong, so I think it would be better if you just revert the parts you think were wrong. For example, I summarized the location section to just 'West Asia' and changed the "Eastern Roman" part in the introduction to Byzantine, I think it is better this way. Alexandros17 (talk) 23:51, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Remsense I'm just trying to make the hyphens match the others. And you object to this without any reason. Alexandros17 (talk) 23:03, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've linked the reason multiple times, including directly above. Moreover, we don't capitalize a collective of proper nouns, e.g. Roman and Persian empires Remsense ‥ 论 23:05, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just realized you have to scroll down a little bit, the most pertinent section is MOS:DATERANGE, sorry if there was confusion there. In short, you have to space out the en dash if there are parts that only apply to one side, e.g. a circa or either a BC or AD, if that makes sense. Remsense ‥ 论 23:08, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Remsense Hmm, I think you are right. I was a little hasty and thought I was always right, I'm sorry. After checking the link you sent, I realized that you were right. Alexandros17 (talk) 23:22, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Remsense Okay you got that right. But that's not even the case, the case is the dates' –s' location. Alexandros17 (talk) 23:11, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Equivalencies in infoboxes

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Per MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE, such equivalencies need to be discussed and sourced in the article, otherwise they should not appear in the infobox. In addition, see the recent discussion at Template talk:Infobox deity, which established that such equations should have a basis in primary sources. – Michael Aurel (talk) 19:02, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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