User talk:Alewisbowen

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Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:St. Peter School

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A tag has been placed on Draft:St. Peter School requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from http://saint-peter-school.org/about_us. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: St. Peter School (October 18)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted because it included copyrighted content, which is not permitted on Wikipedia. You are welcome to write an article on the subject, but please do not use copyrighted work.

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Regards, SshibumXZ (talk · contribs). 17:02, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Alewisbowen! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Regards, SshibumXZ (talk · contribs). 17:02, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Conflict of interest editing

Hello, Alewisbowen, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited was Draft:St. Peter School, which appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

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Hi Alewisbowen. I've added the above template for reference based upon what you've posted at Wikipedia:Teahouse#2nd attempt at article draft - is there a submission process?. Although Wikipedia doesn't expressly prohibit conflict-of-interest editing, it does highly discourage it because it can often lead to some serious problems. Moreover, since you've identified yourself as an employee of the school and it appears you've been ask to create an article about it on its behalf, there's also a very good chance you would also be considered to be a paid editor of some kind as well which further complicates things. Technically, you're still working on a draft which means there's some wiggle room to work with, but you should carefully read through Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide and Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure to familiarize yourself with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines. You might also want to take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools for some general advice about creating an article about a school. I'm going to ask one of that WikiProject's moderators to see if he can give you any further advice. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:03, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Marchjuly thank you very much. I have disclosed paid editor status. I did get a submit template added to my page, but if it gets rejected again I will puruse another angle by asking a parent to create and publish the page on our behalf. I did keep very basic information on this article page about the school - there is no description language describing how great the school is - and the facts (accredidation, for example) are supported by citations so it's pretty straightfoward. So we'll see what happens. Thank you very much for your help. ALB (talk) 13:35, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

The all important point is that you are being transparent about your paid status. My recommendation is to revise the draft and resubmit to Articles for Creation. Essential you use neutral language (model it on existing private school articles) and that you find independently written articles about the school. Boston Globe? Any other? David notMD (talk) 14:19, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi again ALB. I see you added Template:Connected contributor (paid) to user page. That particuluar template, however, is something which you should add to the talk page of any article you edit for which you are being paid/compensated to edit. So, in this case, Draft talk:St. Peter School is where you want to add that template. The {{UserboxCOI}} you've added to your user page is more than sufficient per WP:PAID and WP:DECLARECOI, so you don't really need to add any more templates for that kind of thing. You can though add other content to your userpage as long as it complies with WP:UPYES.

Regarding asking a parent to create the article on behalf of the school, that is almost surely going to still be considered a WP:COI for pretty much the same reason as it would be for you to create the article. The only difference would be whether the parent would be considered to be a paid-contributor, which they probably wouldn't.

The primary reason you're draft is being declined, however, is because elementary schools are generally not considered Wikipedia notable just because they exist. Schools in general are subject to Wikipedia:Notability (companies and organizations) as explained in WP:NSCHOOL, which means they typically have to have received significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources to be deemed notable enough for a Wikipedia article to be written about them. So, unless it can be established that your school has received such coverage, it seems unlikely that any Wikipedia article written by anyone is going to survive being nominated for deletion.

FWIW, if a Wikipedia article cannot be written about your school, don't take it as a personal insult; there are lots of really good organizations and causes which don't have articles written about them. Wikipedia role is not to promote or advocate on the behalf of subject; it's only to reflect information which has been written about in reliable sources (as defined by Wikipedia) which can be verified through citations to these sources. Moreover, even if an article about your school is accepted, nobody at the school would have any final editorial control over the content of the article; so, as long as the content is deemed to comply with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines, it will stay even if it's something that the school would prefer to have removed. Many organizations find out too late that Wikipedia is not like a social media account where they have total control of the message, especially after content they would rather not have in the article gets added. Then, when they try to remove it or have someone else remove it, they finally understand how little control they really have over the article content. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:41, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: St. Peter School (October 25)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Gene93k was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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• Gene93k (talk) 15:33, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: St. Peter School (October 25)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by John from Idegon was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:St. Peter School and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:St. Peter School, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{db-self}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
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John from Idegon (talk) 15:35, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: St. Peter School (October 26)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by AngusWOOF were:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:St. Peter School and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:St. Peter School, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{db-self}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
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AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 20:08, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Your thread has been archived

Hi Alewisbowen! You created a thread called 2nd attempt at article draft - is there a submission process? at Wikipedia:Teahouse, but it has been archived because there was no discussion for a few days. You can still find the archived discussion here. If you have any additional questions that weren't answered then, please create a new thread. Archival by Lowercase sigmabot III, notification delivery by Muninnbot, both automated accounts. You can opt out of future notifications by placing {{bots|deny=Muninnbot}} (ban this bot) or {{nobots}} (ban all bots) on your user talk page. Muninnbot (talk) 19:01, 29 October 2018 (UTC)