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Script template messages

An admin recently posted a speedy deletion "contested" template on my talk page using one of your scripts. A couple of points: first, the correct terminology is "declined" for speedy deletion nominations. "Contested" is usually used for PRODs. Second, and more importantly, I find the tone of the message rather patronising (You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages), especially when directed at a long-time user. Perhaps you should revise the text of the script's messages and advise its users not to template the regulars. – ukexpat (talk) 13:04, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Hello there! :D User:Logan is not an administrator, and as such cannot decline speedy deletions. However, as it is possible for any user to remove a speedy deletion tag from a page, they are in effect contesting it, thus the language in the message. With regards to your second point, users are given the choice when notifying a user whether to use a carefully designed newbie message, or not - the language you object to is only in the newbie message and probably should not have been applied - I suggest you take that up with Logan.
On a slightly different issue, I will politely point out a few things. In the future, when bringing accusations up, I suggest you do a little bit of research - otherwise you come across as unprepared, and your concerns run the risk of looking silly. Secondly, I would advise that your trying to lecture an admin with a significant amount of experience in CSD about the CSD process - while at the same time accusing him of being patronising to experienced users - is something you may want to be slightly more cautious about. After all, if they were slightly less good-humoured than I, it might be seen as blatantly hypocritical rather than pleasantly ironic.
Perhaps you should revise your concerns, and direct them to the appropriate person. Have a nice day. Ale_Jrbtalk 14:14, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Hey - I was the one who contested the speedy (I guess it's a compliment that Ukexpat thought I was a sysop?). In no way was that article promotional/G11-eligible, and the message at the end was completely warranted in this case, as, before tagging pages, one must make sure that the criterion fits with the article in question.
Also, Ale jrb, I never noticed that "newbie" checkbox because it isn't inside the box (screenshot). Any chance of fixing that? I definitely wouldn't have used the newbie message if I knew that such an option existed, especially with Ukexpat's experience. However, I hope that it does link to the criteria even without the "newbie" message because I feel that it's important to revisit them every once in a while.
Hope this explains it! Let me know if you have any further questions. Logan Talk Contributions 19:41, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

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