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Wikipedia:WikiProject United States/The 50,000 Challenge

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Baltimore

I'm not sure why you reverted my edit here. The data was from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which is likely to be more accurate and less biased than data from a local newspaper or the city police department. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 15:01, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

The changes I undid began by stating an even 300 murders in 2015. On checking the CDC source provided, I found no reference to this number (and still don't). Perhaps the info is buried and needs to be searched again, though the original 'jssesionid' in the link seems to have already expired. I believe the well-established Baltimore Sun (currently sourced to show 344 homicides that year) is generally considered a reliable source, despite being "a local newspaper", and I see another citation from it was kept later in the paragraph you edited. —ADavidB 20:34, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

The CDC stated 300 homicides, and also that this was the highest for any county in the United States in 2015. This is notable. There's a wide discrepancy between the police data and the CDC. I'll start a discussion on the talk page. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:48, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

I'll watch for the talk page discussion. You may know, but in case not, Baltimore city is independent of Baltimore County. I'm interested in what search options you specified to get total homicide numbers. If you have a reliable source on the wide discrepancy you mentioned, that info can be included. —ADavidB 02:15, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Autopatrolled granted

Hi Adavidb, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the patroller right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! Schwede66 05:26, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Bannon images

Hi there, https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Steve_Bannon - I have reverted your changes. Please seek wp:consensus on the talkpage if you again want to repeat those changes, thanks Govindaharihari (talk) 12:13, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for March 12

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Resolved. —ADavidB 11:29, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Theodore Roosevelt

Your continual meddling with U.S. English punctuation in the sentence ending "he proclaims it the 'party of the people,' in contrast with the other major parties," is quite annoying. Please direct your attention to the following passages in WP:MOS —

Consistency within articles

While Wikipedia does not prefer any national variety of English, within a given article the conventions of one particular variety should be followed consistently.

Strong national ties to a topic

An article on a topic that has strong ties to a particular English-speaking nation should use the (formal, not colloquial) English of that nation.

Obviously, an article about a president of the U.S. has "strong ties to a particular English-speaking nation," the United States. Further, the rest of the article follows U.S. English style with regard to punctuation, which is as it should be.

Kindly cease and desist from inserting British English punctuation into this article. Thank you. Sca (talk) 17:29, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

I believe you are mistaken in applying nation-specific punctuation style to articles here, with spelling and word meaning what's meant with regard to articles with strong ties to a particular English-speaking nation. I clearly showed MOS:COMMA as my source for an wiki.riteme.site-wide guideline, which also links to MOS:QUOTEMARKS and MOS:TQ. Your preference being changed twice (for this stated purpose) does not constitute "continual meddling"; kindly cease and desist from such exaggeration. To continue your quotations of style passages, here's one from MOS:TQ that's very direct to my point.

Punctuation inside or outside

On the English Wikipedia, use the "logical quotation" style in all articles, regardless of the variety of English in which they are written.

—ADavidB 19:09, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Mistaken? Why?

I can assure you that, based on my four decades' experience with U.S. media and publishing, the punctuation style you insist on is not accepted practice in U.S. English. Nor do I accept it, regardless of what anyone at Wikipedia may decree. Wiki is not the final authority on questions of language. Sca (talk) 00:03, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

This apparent statement that you'll only agree to Wikipedia guidelines if they agree with what you consider correct outside Wikipedia... explains a lot. My response is that we should defer to Wikipedia guidelines for Wikipedia articles, and other guidelines for written content not on Wikipedia. Further, if an editor wants a guideline changed, I believe the process in place should be used to draw support and potentially bring about that change. —ADavidB 03:05, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Draft:Mu'az Noor

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May 2017

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Sean Spicer (see [1]). If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Quis separabit? 14:48, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

The edit you linked was after mine, by Editosaurus. Please be more careful in your identification of unconstructive edits. —ADavidB 15:18, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Spatini in Template:Tomato sauces

I placed Spatini under Manufacturers and Brands in Template:Tomato sauces because I believe that Spatini is a registered trademark owned by the only company that manufactures it (McCormick & Company's subsidiary, Lawry's). You moved Spatini to Varieties because you said it's a variety now made by various companies. Respectfully, may I ask if you could possibly say what other company besides the trademark owner, McCormick & Company's subsidiary Lawry's, now also makes Spatini? AlineXu (talk) 06:11, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

The Spatini sauce article states that it used to be manufactured by Spatini Co. (their brand) but since 2007 has been made by Lipton, Unilever, and McCormick. (A clarification that only the last of these presently produces it was not in the article when I made my edits.) I took this to mean it became a variety produced by these companies, rather than its own separate brand. If this is incorrect, please make changes, optimally including references for verification. —ADavidB 11:06, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! Your updates were greatly helpful in getting the Spatini sauce article polished and fully up to Wikipedia standards. AlineXu (talk) 20:45, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Your're welcome, and ... thanks for your thanks. —ADavidB 20:49, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Request for the David Trone article

Resolved

Hello! I see you are an active longtime contributor, and a member of WikiProject Maryland. I submitted an edit request for the David Trone (who has run for office in MD) article, which you can see here, with a couple updates and links to consider adding to the article. I am submitting the request on behalf of Mr. Trone and Hickman Analytics, and since I cannot edit the article myself, I am trying to find an uninvolved editor to review the proposed update and copy over appropriately.

I don't think reviewing the edit request would take long since I've provided specific text and markup for easier copying and pasting. If you're not interested, no problem, but might you be wiling to help with this request? I've posted notes asking for help at WikiProjects Biography, Maryland, and Pennsylvania, but so far no one has replied. Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason (talk) 17:16, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

The edit request has been answered, so I am marking this section as resolved. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 17:12, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

adding info about Jim Henry

So I created my first article, and picked Jim Henry, as he seems notable as the 'biggest man in barbershop' I seem to be having trouble conveying his notability. Any thoughts? https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Draft:Dr._Jim_Henry

SingoutLOUD (talk) 20:29, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Congrat's on your first article. It can be difficult to find reliable independent sources, and that has kept me from creating some articles, and even resulted in one of mine (also barbershop-related) being deleted. Since much of Dr. Henry's info is from barbershop and minor media sources, that can be a hindrance. I've found those who review draft articles are generally a hard sell. Contrary to one commenter's remark, Henry doesn't have to make the New York Times. The objective is to present what makes him stand out the most. The lead/first paragraph, especially, should summarize why he's notable.

There are some style issues with the current draft; for example, see MOS:DOCTOR. While minor, getting past most of these can also help with getting an article approved. Mainly concentrating on establishing notability, I'd change the first paragraph to a summary of what the article presents about him. Something like:

"James Henry (born 1964) is a vocal music professor, bass singer, and multiple international award-winning quartet member and chorus director. His quartets have appeared nationally on the NBC, PBS, and Fox television networks. Henry is the current director of choral studies at the University of Missouri–St. Louis and a contributing author of widely used musical reference works."

The rest of the article then needs to continue with this, expanding in an encyclopedic way on what he has done and still does. It should concentrate on him, and not too much on related subjects. His early life/education should be in a separate section, after the opening paragraph. Since barbershop is where much of his notability rests, I'd concentrate there on the significance of his accomplishments, such as the international nature of the largest organization of male a cappella singers, and his achieving its top awards with multiple groups in multiple years. The Awards section should probably be trimmed a great deal, only including the most significant awards from the largest organizations (i.e. BHS international and CASA). I think quality rather than quantity is best in that area. Let me know if you have questions, and whether you'd like me to make edits of my own to the draft.

—ADavidB 10:48, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

After getting rejected twice I got a bit disenchanted, but I added some additional citations and it made it into the article space. I didn't change the substance of the entry, really just fleshed it out with more substantive articles and links. Any edits to make it more 'encyclopedic' are appreciated. Thanks for the help! SingoutLOUD (talk) 20:41, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Contest a Speedy deletion.

Hello Adavidb

I have been helping to edit the Finest Hour (quartet) page but it is now being proposed for speedy deletion. Please could you help me to contest this as I am very new to wikipedia and you have much more knowledge than me.

Many thanks jonathan123484 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonathan123494 (talk • contribs) 16:49, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

I've added an entry to the article's talk page, and removed the speedy deletion template from the article. Provided this halts or delays its speedy deletion, the article very much needs more citations from reliable sources that demonstrate the quartet's notability, and support everything written about it, including its history. Some rewording should be considered, perhaps framing the quartet's accomplishments similarly to how I wrote about them on its talk page. Reliable media sources would be especially helpful. —ADavidB 19:04, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

The article made it under the wire, with a "keep" decision finally made today. Please continue to add information (from independent, reliable sources) as it occurs. —ADavidB 17:09, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Thanks for taking out all the incorrect wiki-links on the BABs quartet page! ‡ Єl Cid, Єl Caɱ̩peador ᐐT₳LKᐬ 12:57, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Education in Arkansas

If you have time, could you look at the doodle at the bottom of my sandbox? ''Paul, in Saudi'' (talk) 13:36, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

I took a look at the "Education in Arkansas" section you have there. I figure you intend to submit it as a separate article (to replace the current redirect to Arkansas#Education) and seek suggestions. You may want to include much of what is already in the Education section of the Arkansas article, and expand on it in the separate article. A lot more content might be added, perhaps borrowing ideas from other states' "Education in" articles. There are some minor style/grammar corrections to be made, such as removing the hyphen after "junior" and adding an "s" at the end of the first sentence. The "Rank" column in the Funding section's table needs to be bolded as a heading, by putting a "!" in front of it rather than a "|". The Timeline section is okay in general, except for the first item being incomplete; I'd suggest putting a "*" at the beginning of each entry to make them list items, and perhaps setting off the text from the year, by adding a ":" or spaced en dash ("–") after each year. A References section would be needed, of course, with the usual {{References}} template. When repeating a source citation, the convention used here is to name it (by adding "name=some-name" to the initial 'ref' tag), and then using only "<ref name=some-name />" for the repeated uses. Let me know if you have specific questions. —ADavidB 16:49, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

I value your comments. If you can, take a look at it in a few days. It may be better, or perhaps abandoned by me if I am distracted by a shiny object. I have found a wonderful old document I am chewing on today. Later I will raid the Arkansas#Education section. "Young contributors borrow, mature editors steal." ''Paul, in Saudi'' (talk) 04:01, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Club Penguin Rewritten

An article that you have been involved in editing—Club Penguin Rewritten—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Epicandrew1220 (talk) 17:27, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Re: Total Wine & More

Thanks again for updating the David Trone and Total Wine & More articles. Currently, the latter article's "History" section says, "In 2016, Total Wine was served with a license suspension by the Massachusetts Alcoholic Beverages Control Commission for selling liquor below its costs, a loss leader pricing strategy not allowed within the state's liquor industry. Total Wine sued the state's regulators to have the penalty overturned." I'm not sure if you're aware, but at least according to this source, the suspension was overturned. Letting you know in case the article should be updated with this additional information. Inkian Jason (talk) 20:02, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

I hadn't seen the story about the result of the case, and have updated the Total Wine article accordingly. —ADavidB 04:10, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Rudy Moise

Thank you for your recent changes (especially clean-up) to this article; I really need to start proof-reading my submissions better. Care to offer a vote in its AfD? Savvyjack23 (talk) 13:23, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

You're welcome. AdD entry added. —ADavidB 19:35, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Edits to August 21 Eclipse

I believe some of your recent edits to Solar eclipse of August 21, 2017 made some revisions to date formats, but also did this when dates were used in image filenames. I'm not sure if you were using a bot or not, but obviously images will not display if their names are changed or corrupted. Thanks for your attention to this.—OhioOakTree (talk) 14:56, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I used the User:Ohconfucius/script/MOSNUM dates script, and hadn't considered that it could (and did) also change dates within filenames. I will watch for this in the future. —ADavidB 03:50, 20 November 2017 (UTC)