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Hello. You have a new message at Benzband's talk page.

Oh, and i believe i've dabbed this. Cheers, benzband (talk) 17:28, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

{{TB}} - again

benzband (talk) 17:41, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

And again. benzband (talk) 18:56, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

		The WikiProject Barnstar
		Gee… you've been doing some great work at the CVU, what with creating the Academy project and all. Let it be my honor, this time, in presenting you with the [Wiki]Project Barnstar! Keep it up! benzband (talk) 20:30, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Your kind words are more than enough, and your genorosity is overwhelming. Thank you, it means a lot to know that there's at least someone else out there who thinks this can be a worthwhile endeavor. Achowat (talk) 20:34, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

"Broad paths are open to every endeavor, and a sympathetic recognition is assured to every one who consecrates his art to the divine services of a conviction of a consciousness." —Franz Liszt (links mine)

I like trying [new] things :D It presents no problem and IMO is the way towards progress. Also, in my first steps reverting vandalism, it all being new to me, i was quite lost/unsteady about having a go… i think a few un-creepy instructions/questions wouldn't have gone amiss [^___^] benzband (talk) 20:49, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

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Graphics Lab reply

Hello, Achowat. A reply to your request at the Illustration workshop has been made.
If you are satisfied, please copy/paste the following code and add it to your request: {{resolved|1=~~~~}}

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I have done the logo for the CVU Academy. Mark the request as resolved if it is OK. Roshan220195 (talk) 06:28, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

CVU

I can has be Instructor? No idea how that table works. And what is the text above the table? Should be in English? MrLittleIrish^(talk) 14:09, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

If I were you, I'd take two steps to answer your above questions: First, I would add myself to the Table; second, I would give Lorem ipsum a read

. Cheers! Achowat (talk) 14:12, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

What I meant is, how does that table work (I'm crap with wikitables). And I'll look into part two. MrLittleIrish^(talk) 14:19, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Tell me your timezone and what tools (if any) you use and I can throw you on there. I'd also suggest giving Help:Wikitable a read; tables are easy once you get the hang of them. Achowat (talk) 14:23, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Roolback and Huggle (Can't use huggle without rollback) and I'm in the GMT+1 (BST) MrLittleIrish^(talk) 14:28, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

And if you have any "comments" to add. Achowat (talk) 14:30, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Please don't hesitate to contact me for help. MrLittleIrish^(talk) 14:40, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

We have an enrolee? MrLittleIrish^(talk) 15:27, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

I don't believe so; the project isn't even live yet. (And there's no one on the Enrollment Page, either). Achowat (talk) 15:29, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

You might want to removed the 1 from the tables, and replace with 0's? Infact, I've to learn, I'll do it :) MrLittleIrish^(talk) 15:31, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

See, that's what the invis-comment was about. I want to say something like "Capacity to handle this number of Enrollees" but in a way that doesn't sound, y'know, stupid. Achowat (talk) 15:33, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

I'll make amendments, I know what you mean. MrLittleIrish^(talk) 15:34, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

1 Gorgeous, perfect! Top drawer! Achowat (talk) 15:40, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Not just a pretty face. MrLittleIrish^(talk) 15:43, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

TB

/ping at my talkpage. benzband (talk) 15:21, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

take a look at Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit/Academy/Questions, i picked a lot of stuff from the help desk. benzband (talk) 15:58, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

The only difference I would put in is making the "Ask a question" button more apparent. Our audience is going to be primarily inexperienced editors. Achowat (talk) 16:00, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Where is the template at? I could maybe make a couple of changes? MrLittleIrish^(talk) 16:14, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Ah, found it. I have made the 'Ask a new question' letter size bigger so it stands out a little more. MrLittleIrish^(talk) 16:19, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Also i've created a talkback template : {{CVUA Talkback}} for notifying a user that their question has been answered at the CVUA Q&A page. benzband (talk) 17:04, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello, Achowat! Your question has been answered at the CVU Questions page. Feel free to leave a reply there!

Message added by benzband (talk) 18:12, 17 April 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{CVU Talkback}} template.

Hello. You have a new message at benzband's talk page.

A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	For working awesomely on WP:CVU and WP:CVUA. You're work has not gone un-noticed. MrLittleIrish ^(talk) © 15:11, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, this means a lot. (And, for irony's sake, I was fixing the front page of the Barnstar Wikiproject when I got your message notice. Achowat (talk) 15:12, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

I left you a message when you announced soft open aswell, just so you know. :) MrLittleIrish ^(talk) © 15:19, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Still waiting for my WikiOscar

. We've got to figure out what to do for a real Grand Opening at some point. Achowat (talk) 15:20, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Vandalise the Project page? hurhur MrLittleIrish ^(talk) © 15:56, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Strike One! Any other ideas? (I'll be starting a thread at WT:CVUA regarding that. Achowat (talk) 15:59, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

RFA

The IP did not just express an opinion, he !voted (although very weirdly considering he opposed and put it in the neutral section). Policy says "only editors with an account may place a numerical (#) "vote"." I'm not going to revert you. I'll leave that to you or to others. It isn't going to matter, anyway.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:16, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

You make a reasonable point; I'm going to indent him and move the comment under Scottywong (though, this is all because we rely too much on toolserver and Democracy to determine consensus; though that's neither here nor there). I've moved the comments appropriately. Thanks for letting me know! Achowat (talk) 16:19, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Better, although, honestly, I think the IP was conflicted between neutral and opposed and didn't know how to express that.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:26, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Well, since s/he's agreeing with Scotty (and not !voting), I put hir comments right under Scotty's. Seemed the best fix available. Achowat (talk) 16:27, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

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new jersey -> New Jersey

Interesting, I didn't see that and I am usually good at catching those false positives. Out of more then 3000 this is the only one which I seem to have slipped up on because of the wording. I thought that their state sponsor (for New Jersey) was United Health Care, not that United Health Care was sponsoring their new jerseys. I've done some tinkering with the wording, I hope you like it. From, "In 2011, the Revolution announced that their new jersey sponsor would be United Health Care and that United Health Care would be written on the home and away jerseys." to "In 2011, the Revolution announced that United Health Care would be their jersey sponsor; its logo is on the home and away jerseys." I dropped new because it was implied to be new, but if you don't like it just revert it or alter it. Again, thank you for letting me know, I misread the context. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 13:38, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Actually, that wording is a lot better, given that New England has never had a "front of jersey" sponsor before. Good show! Achowat (talk) 13:42, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

TB

I left you a message at my talk :) MrLittleIrish ^(talk) © 15:40, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

I thought you weren't going to Spam me with a TB? Achowat (talk) 15:46, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

You took years to reply and I wasn't sure if you did have me watched, and it was a personalised TB, so feel special. :P You sir, have been spammed. MrLittleIrish ^(talk) © 15:51, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

MAOR SPAM RE:TALKPAGE OF MINE :) MrLittleIrish ^(talk) © 16:02, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Damn caps lock.

This has become far too silly, far too silly. Achowat (talk) 16:11, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Nothing wrong with a little fun. We're not disrupting anything, as far as I'm aware :P Did I make you giggle? MrLittleIrish ^(talk) © 16:14, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Aye, you did. Though I expected you to get the subtle cultural reference. Achowat (talk) 17:12, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

A little too subtle I think MrLittleIrish ^(talk) © 14:17, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I thought you British people enjoyed your humor subtle. Or Irish...or...whatever. Achowat (talk) 14:19, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

How very dare you! Have you seen my Nick? Or my Sig? Pfft! Not a huge Python fan anyways! MrLittleIrish ^(talk) © 14:22, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

As an American, I've come to find that the only people who hate Europeans more than Americans are people from the British Isles, and the only people British Islanders (to coin a term) hate more than Europeans are different kinds of British Islanders. Phyton's great man, though this conversation has, again, become far too silly. Achowat (talk) 14:24, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Not from the Brisish Isles either! Hur hur. MrLittleIrish ^(talk) © 14:36, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

My apologies for assuming you were Irish.

Achowat (talk) 14:38, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I am Irish! You assumed I was British. I was born in the Republic of Ireland which is not part of the UK. I find that most Americans struggle to grasp that

MrLittleIrish ^(talk) © 14:47, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I never said you were British, I said you were from one of the Britich Isles, namely the Irish one. Achowat (talk) 05:04, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Achowat. You have new messages at Chip123456's talk page.
Message added 19:13, 24 April 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Chip123456 (talk) 19:13, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Same as above! --Chip123456 (talk) 19:44, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Woohoo

		CVU Anti-Vandalism Award
		Great work, but we still have a long way to go, let's keep it up :D Dan653 (talk) 21:12, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Dan, your words are enough (though I'm not going to pretend this wasn't a pleasant surprise when I woke up this morning. Achowat (talk) 12:34, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

For fixing my talkpage MrLittleIrish ^(talk) © 14:16, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Cupcakes and beer...this is turning out to be a wonderful night out. Achowat (talk) 14:19, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

CVUA Guidelines

I don't think I like the guidelines to enrol. Maybe some users are only creating accounts to join the CVUA to help with anti-vandalism? MrLittleIrish ^(talk) © 15:53, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Generally, I agree, and I only plan on not "approving" candidates in extraordianary circrumstances. The user I slapped an {{await}} on is concerning, to me at least, and I'd like to see a bit more out of him before continuing. He has about 200 edits, and that includes running in RFA and applying for Rollback. I just want to take a few days to make sure his head's in the right place, y'know? Achowat (talk) 15:57, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I have a mentally un-stimulating depressing office job where I click buttons at a computer all day, well that's my day job at least. Achowat (talk) 16:02, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Sounds like a lot of fun. The un-challenging aspect would annoy the hell out of me. So you just edit here to pass time when you have no more buttons to click? MrLittleIrish ^(talk) © 16:06, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

No, there are buttons to click, but I blow through the buttons so quickly and our production standards are set so low that I'm afforded a unique opportunity to click entirely different buttons here on en.wikipedia. Achowat (talk) 16:09, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

You sound like an asset to your company! Hur Hur. Please swap jobs with me! MrLittleIrish ^(talk) © 16:12, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I don't know, I'm an American. I don't know how I would handle living in England (you said you were in London, right?), what with the free healthcare and the EPL games on at times other than the asscrack of dawn. I don't know if I could live without my Saturday ritual of waking up at 6:00am, hitting the pub at 7:30am, and then waiting for first call and 9:00am. Achowat (talk) 16:15, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I should be in London this time next month. I currently live in Leeds. I spend my weekends waking up stupidly late, then getting ready to go out about 10pm, getting a cab about 11.30pm. Hitting the nightclub at about 12 midnight, leaving the nightclub at 6 in the morning, sleeping all Sunday, waking up for food, going back to bed, waking up on a Monday and going to work. Not a sports fan to be fair, but I write music in my spare time. Either that or spend the day rolling around in bed with my girlfriend. MrLittleIrish ^(talk) © 16:19, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Well, then switching lives is probably not going to work out. The only musical talent I have is for Terrace Songs, and the non-sport fan thing messes that up. The Liverbird on my shoulder sort of pegs me as a soccer fan, as well. So we should probably stay on our own sides of the Atlantic, at least until you come 'round these parts for that pint I seem to remember you owing me. Achowat (talk) 16:22, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Your loss. My girlfriend is awesome :P And I could have sworn you were coming here for that pint. MrLittleIrish ^(talk) © 16:26, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I don't doubt the awesomeness of your girlfriend, but I do think she'll be more-than-a-little peeved knowing that you're offering her up to some Anonymous person on the World Wide Tubes just because he came up with a decent idea on how to educate counter-vandals. Achowat (talk) 17:14, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh hell no, I'm taking her with me, and I am offering to swap because your job sounds a tid bit better than mine hurhur :P MrLittleIrish ^(talk) © 08:15, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello

Hi, I'm just wondering, I reverted an edit earlier but then it was put back by another user. Is this true?--Chip123456 (talk) 18:34, 25 April 2012 (UTC) The usual rule is when you add material to Wikipedia, you need to source it, that's what I have been taught. --Chip123456 (talk) 18:34, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes, actually. The standard is "verifiable", not necessarily "verified". You will, for instance, find no footnote for the fact "Elizabeth II is the Queen of Great Britain". As such, not every piece of information should be removed if added without a source. As CJLippert explains, if you disagree with something that has been added in good faith, you should let it stand or put a {{fact}} tag on it (the latter if you doubt that its true). The huge exception is contentious information on Living People; covering living people puts the editor and the Wikimedia Foundation in a state of liability for any fraud, libel, or slander. As such, contentious information about Living People (and only contentious information) that is not sourced should be removed. For more information on Veribiability versus Verified, see WP:V#When a reliable source is required; for more information about living people, see WP:BLP. Achowat (talk) 18:41, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh, Ok! Vehicle registration plate an editor (IP) placed some information on there, it was unsourced and it was quite a lot of information. I reverted it and placed a note in their TP. I then saw they reverted what I reverted, without any explanation or telling me why they didn't source it. I gave them a caution then. I'm unsure now whether I have done the right thing? Also this is on my watch list so no need for a TB thing, I don't really like them, although I may put them on others pages! --Chip123456 (talk) 18:53, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Ok, didn't know if you had me Watchlisted, just wanted to make sure. I took a look at the VRP changes already. I personally would have kept the information and applies a {{fact}} to the first piece of 'hard' evidence (a date, a statistic, etc). Leaving it be would have been acceptable as well. I, personally, would have still left the Template if I found something that required a citation. Achowat (talk) 19:00, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Ok! This may seem like a silly question so forgive me. Information must cite a reliable source* *although there are exceptions?--Chip123456 (talk) 15:24, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Information that has been challenged or is likely to be challenged requires a reliable source. However it's probably not the best practice to remove everything that is unsourced. If it sounds remotely plausible, I'd leave it and throw a {{fact}} on there. But for information that is more than far more than likely true (like who the Queen of the UK is) there is no need for such a tag. Achowat (talk) 11:28, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

So, if I or another editor feels it should be challenged remove it and explain, if it's obvious keep it with a CN tag. Ok, got it!--Chip123456 (talk) 15:26, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

That last line just made my day :D

Do you know of any other pages that I can look at to see latest revisions to Wikipedia - right now, I just constantly check the User Contributions page with the parameters "New Users, Article, Latest Revision"... but are there other places I should be looking? Namely, one that will show me IP edits? Thanks so much - Theopolisme _TALK 23:53, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes there is, and here's how you get to it.

On the left side under interaction click on recent changes.
At the top to the right of utilities click IP's contribs.
Ta-da :D

Dan653 (talk) 00:03, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh wow. (smacks head on desk) Duh. Now, that right there is why the CVUA program rocks. Because if it weren't for you, I'd be clicking around all night. :D Theopolisme _TALK 00:05, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh, you have no idea how much that made me happy today. After how the Boston Bruins played last night, I needed that boost. Achowat (talk) 11:30, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Replay

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Blah

I'm sorry man, after the Hockey game last night (and the accompanying loss) I'm a bit hung over and, well, WP:DRUNK. Achowat (talk) 15:09, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm all up for tormenting a drunk Achowat. By the way, your name sounds like a sneeze followed by a question. MrLittleIrish ^(talk) © 15:13, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

User:Achowat#Achowat??. Achowat (talk) 15:14, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

I already know the meaning, but how it looks, it looks like a sneeze followed by a question. 'Acho! What?' MrLittleIrish ^(talk) © 15:17, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Says the man with a politically insensitive user sig.

. Achowat (talk) 15:22, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

How is it politically insensitive? I am a Mr, I was little (in terms of physical hight you dirty bastard) and I am Irish. My sig is basically me in text form. Hur Hur MrLittleIrish ^(talk) © 15:33, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

I was talking about your choice of colors (or, to translate 'colours'). Flag of Ireland#Symbolism. Achowat (talk) 15:41, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

I get what you mean. But I was born in the republic, and have changed the above sig to see if it looks alright? MrLittleIrish ^(talk) © 15:44, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm just giving you a little hell, because well, the Bruins lost and I want someone else to suffer as much as I am right now. That being said, I'm sure there are very, very few (Republic of) Irish protestants who are offended by your sig. However, it should be noted that if there were any, they'd find their way to Wikipedia. Achowat (talk) 15:51, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Flyers! Dan653 (talk) 16:47, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Uncalled for! I'm in pain, dammit! Achowat (talk) 17:05, 26 April 2012 (UTC)