User talk:4apar
Feedback on Article Topics
[edit]- Glad you found some starting points, Alyssa. It would help me if you could embed links to the specific pages in the text on your user page (i.e. add link to the WP Concerted Cultivation page, etc.). I agree with your assessment of the Concerted Cultivation page- it definitely needs work and lacks objectivity and references. One thing that comes to mind for all of your proposed topics is that they're fairly broad with respect to adolescent development, so I'd like you to think about other topics (and/or subtopics in an area from your proposed list) that might be more focused on adolescence.--Joanna Jml4bw (talk) 17:53, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Joanna, I posted these revisions on my user page, but thought I should transfer them to my talk page. The links to the pages are present. What do you think about me focusing on adolescence within concerted cultivation or mindset?
- Concerted Cultivation: This page exists but is quite small and has few sources. Also, on the talk page for concerted cultivation, there is a comment that the page is not neutral. In my wikipedia project, I would work to make the language more neutral. Also, I would add additional sources and information regarding the process of concerted cultivation, its' characteristics, and especially the outcomes associated with concerted cultivation. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Concerted_cultivation
- Another idea relating to Concerted Cultivation would be to add a section on the page that discusses how concerted cultivation shapes the lives of adolescents, what this looks like, and how it is related to certain outcomes such as achievement.
- This could work, Alyssa. I'd probably want to know a little more about what you think this might look like, and whether or not you feel there's a good literature base to support the development of this section. If you decide to go in this direction, just let me know once you begin drafting in your sandbox so I can have a better sense of the direction, etc. -Joanna Jml4bw (talk) 02:44, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- Another idea relating to Concerted Cultivation would be to add a section on the page that discusses how concerted cultivation shapes the lives of adolescents, what this looks like, and how it is related to certain outcomes such as achievement.
- Subjective Task Value: This is a component of the Expectancy Value Theory by Eccles and Wigfield, which is a motivational theory. There is no page for this term, so I would work on creating a page. Also, the Expectancy Value Theory page does not mention Eccles and Wigfield, so I might add to that page in order to situate this term. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Expectancy-value_theory
- As Jeff User:jjk5ne mentioned in class on Tuesday, he's also interested in developing an entry on motivation. The two of you are very welcome to work together on this project if you'd like. -Joanna Jml4bw (talk) 02:44, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- Fixed Mindset or Growth Mindset: There is no page for either fixed or growth mindset. So, I would work on creating one or both of these pages. The page on mindset mentions Carol Dweck and growth/fixed mindsets but does not discuss these terms and their implications deeply. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Mindset
- Within the scope of mindset, I could add a section to the beginning mindset page on how it shapes outcomes in adolescence like achievement in school. I might also include a section that discusses the middle/high school context and strategies that can be used to improve students mindset.4apar (talk) 13:19, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Alyssa, did you do a search for "achievement goal theory" to see if any of this information is captured under that topic? I didn't look yet, but it might be something to consider. I think the "fixed vs. growth mindset" terminology was adopted to appeal to a broader, non-academic audience, but it's based on the AGT principles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jml4bw (talk • contribs) 02:35, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- I did not do a search for "achievement goal theory" originally. However, I just did a search and came up with this page, https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Goal_theory, which could definitely be developed. There is no mention of mindsets on this page, as well as no discussion of adolescents. 4apar (talk) 02:05, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- Hmmm- that goal theory page is in kind of sad shape- you'd almost be re-writing it. If this is something you'd like to take on, you're welcome to (definitely considering working with someone else, perhaps Jeff, on this). Also, let's set some specific goals for what exactly you'd like to do on this page so that it doesn't become unmanageable. -Joanna Jml4bw (talk) 19:58, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
- I did not do a search for "achievement goal theory" originally. However, I just did a search and came up with this page, https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Goal_theory, which could definitely be developed. There is no mention of mindsets on this page, as well as no discussion of adolescents. 4apar (talk) 02:05, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Alyssa, did you do a search for "achievement goal theory" to see if any of this information is captured under that topic? I didn't look yet, but it might be something to consider. I think the "fixed vs. growth mindset" terminology was adopted to appeal to a broader, non-academic audience, but it's based on the AGT principles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jml4bw (talk • contribs) 02:35, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- Within the scope of mindset, I could add a section to the beginning mindset page on how it shapes outcomes in adolescence like achievement in school. I might also include a section that discusses the middle/high school context and strategies that can be used to improve students mindset.4apar (talk) 13:19, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- Concerted Cultivation: This page exists but is quite small and has few sources. Also, on the talk page for concerted cultivation, there is a comment that the page is not neutral. In my wikipedia project, I would work to make the language more neutral. Also, I would add additional sources and information regarding the process of concerted cultivation, its' characteristics, and especially the outcomes associated with concerted cultivation. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Concerted_cultivation
Working article
[edit]References:
Eccles, J. (1983). Expectancies, values, and academic behaviors. In J. T. Spence (Ed.), Achievement and achievement motives: Psychological and sociological approaches (pp. 75-146). San Francisco, CA: W. H. Freeman.
Eccles, J. S. & Wigfield, A. (2002). Motivational beliefs, values, and goals. Annual Review of Psychology, 53, 109-132.
Hulleman, C. S. & Harackiewicz, J. M. (2009). Promoting interest and performance in high school science classes. Science, 326, 1410-1412.
Jacobs, J. E., Lanza, S., Osgood, D. W., Eccles, J. S., & Wigfield, A. (2002). Changes in children's self-competence and values: Gender domain differences across grades one through twelve. Child Development, 73(2), 509-527.
Wigfield, A. & Cambria, J. (2010). Expectancy-value theory: Retrospective and prospective. Advances in Motivation and Achievement, 16A, 35-70.
Kelly's Feedback
[edit]Hi Alyssa and Jeff, I just read through your article twice, hoping to find some constructive criticism for you, and I really couldn't. Your article is really good. It flows very well from the history of the theory into application. It is most definitely a useful contribution to Wikipedia. Well done! The only possible thing I can add (and I am quite possibly wrong on this) is in the expectancies section where you make a distinction between self efficacy and self-concept. My understanding of the two terms was kind of opposite from yours in that I thought self-efficacy was the more specific term... relating to one's beliefs about ability to perform and be competent is specific domains. These based on mastery experiences of a task or specific activity. I thought self-efficacy was one component of the broader construct of self-concept. Isn't self-concept the more general, less context dependent term? Like I say, you probably know better than I do, but I can tell you where I got my information if you want to know. I enjoyed reading your article, and I think you two probably did one of the best contributions:) Kml1535 (talk) 00:16, 21 April 2014 (UTC)