User talk:212.250.25.106

December 2016

Hello, I'm Utcursch. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Battle of Saragarhi have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think a mistake was made, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. utcursch | talk 18:12, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Hello, I'm User:Elfabet, I wanted to let you know that I've also reverted one of your revisions to the same page, albeit just today. If you're interested in discussing the validity of claims, please do so on the talk page. If you feel a mistake has been made, feel free to contact me at my talk page.
--Cheers! Elfabet (talk) 12:14, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

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September 2018

Please do not add or significantly change content without citing verifiable and reliable sources, as you did with this edit to Battle of Saragarhi. Before making any potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. —Phenolla ⚫️🔵 12:21, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Critical analysis of this episode

This whole episode is based on lies upon lies upon lies. First of all what is so gallant about dying for the British racist empire who looked upon you Sikhs nothing but a serving slave. When you say 10,000 afghan attacking the fort. Your first lie is that these were Orakzai and Afridi Pashtuns, nothing to do with Afghans from Afghanistan. Then where did this most ridiculous figure of 10,000 come from. The whole area's population including women and children was less than 9,000 at that time (according to later estimate - and estimate only) so how did the Pashtuns got 10,000 fighting men from this area. If you check the 'Indian military and civil gazette' which was compiled by dubious accounts of white-cum-racist British military men in the first place, it says "estimated" figure of thousands of tribes. But there have been reasons for exaggerating all such figures and incidents because the British along with their dying Sikh soldiers were unable to subjugate the Pathans. Did the British officers went out to the other side and said, "Hang on, we need to count you first before you attack the fort". There are numerous lies about the Pathans created by these racist imperialists and you just take their word for it. Have you checked the accounts of Pashtun writers? But most importantly, shouldn't this be an episode of humiliation and regret whereby the Sikhs dying for the oppressors against the truly gallant Pashtuns who were fighting for their country and for their survival against an imperial might.

There are men of consciousness still around. Benjamin Zephaniah, a black British poet and writer remarked in the following words (the Guardian newspaper UK), when shortlisted for an OBE: "Woke up on the morning of November 13 [2003] wondering how the government could be overthrown and what could replace it, and then I noticed a letter from the prime minister's office. It said: "The prime minister has asked me to inform you, in strict confidence, that he has in mind, on the occasion of the forthcoming list of New Year's honours to submit your name to the Queen with a recommendation that Her Majesty may be graciously pleased to approve that you be appointed an officer of the Order of the British Empire." Me? I thought, OBE me? Up yours, I thought. I get angry when I hear that word "empire"; it reminds me of slavery, it reminds of thousands of years of brutality, it reminds me of how my foremothers were raped and my forefathers brutalised. It is because of this concept of empire that my British education led me to believe that the history of black people started with slavery and that we were born slaves, and should therefore be grateful that we were given freedom by our caring white masters. It is because of this idea of empire that black people like myself don't even know our true names or our true historical culture. I am not one of those who are obsessed with their roots, and I'm certainly not suffering from a crisis of identity; my obsession is about the future and the political rights of all people. Benjamin Zephaniah OBE - no way Mr Blair, no way Mrs Queen. I am profoundly anti-empire. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.250.25.106 (talk • contribs)

Please see Wikipedia:Verifiability -- you are free to add this information in a neutral tone with a reliable source. However, if you continue to add your own original research without a source, you will be blocked. utcursch | talk 13:58, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

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