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Hi!I'm fedina and I want to ask you a question: is there a france wikipedia? bye fedina

Map of France

Merci du "heads up" - si le carte utilisé dans les articles "communes de France" est tout à fait correct, c'est celui-ci que je utiliserai pour corriger ce p'tit anomalie. Encore merci. THEPROMENADER 17:57, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

your username

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Everthing that has a beginning has an end

Except, of course, things like the set of natural numbers ;-) — Loadmaster 18:20, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Template:Month disambig

TfD nomination of Template:Month disambig

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Wikipedia category

I noticed after creating my template that I had a similar idea to yours: {{Wikipedia category}} (mine is {{Wikipediacat}}). I propose you to remplace yours by mine if you mind. 16@r 00:45, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

There are others; I also created {{Template category}} and {{User category}} at the same time. I believe my naming (namespace category) is better; they also have a more limited scope (yours would subsume stub categories, for instance; mine would not be used for true article categories, redirects, templates, images, user pages, or several other non-article categories), which I believe is more useful. For instance, I would use {{User category}} on Category:Wikipedians. --cesarb 00:58, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes it's also a good idea. Actually I'm happy to see I'm not the first who have tried to propose these template messages (btw maybe we should categorise them in the Category:Category header templates). My {{wikipediacat}} was also mainly intended to be the beginning of a reflection on how to distinguish "normal categories" and "selfref categories", so now we should think to the organisation of these kind of templates. I mean establishing a well-defined overview and try to get feedback of other wikipedians. Boa noite :). 16@r 01:20, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

I was not trying to propose them; I was trying to sneak them by the back door, one page at a time ☺. I also think it's useful to clearly distingish between "article" and "non-article" categories, mainly to help avoid things like user pages on article categories and other similar confusions (the pages themselves are already distinguished by their namespaces, but there is no such distinction within categories; the ugly "pseudo-namespace" Category:Wikipedia: was abandoned long ago). --cesarb 03:19, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry for the back door, even if you don't tell it publicly I think that introducing a new model by putting it on some pages is also a way to propose it. You're absolutely right about namespaces and namespaces categories. But unfortunately I asked to MediaWiki's developers if it would be possible to have multiple categories (one type of category for each namespace) but they told it would be to long to develop it (though it's a good idea) so they're not gonna implement it right now. However even if "Category:Wikipedia:" has benn abandoned long ago, the advantage on en.wikipedia is that categories for non-articles pages are well nammed ("Category:Wikipedia XXX" or "Category:Template XXX"). So now I propose you it to develop your templates in order to make them more visibles like mine. I will begin with {{template category}} and you could tell me what you think of it. 16@r 08:57, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Please use the template doc page pattern for template documentation whenever possible. Also, I think the longer name (namespace category) is much better; I just noticed the shorter name breaks down for at least {{user category}}, since {{usercat}} already exists with a different meaning (it's the header for user location categories, while mine would be for all user-related categories), and having all the templates with a common naming schema would make them easier to use. Also, {{{code}}} should be optional too (it should be possible to just add the template as a "marker" without having to think what to use as the parameters). --cesarb 16:25, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Biographical dictionaries

Hi-- I removed the "catmore" template from this category because catmore uses the name of the category article "Biographical dictionaries" which is then redirected to the article name for the topic which is "Biographical dictionary". So, best to just code it directly: "The main article for this category is Biographical dictionary". Cheers! --RCEberwein | Talk 20:58, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject France

Hello! We are a group of editors working to improve the quality of France related articles. You look like someone who might be interested in joining us in the France WikiProject and so I thought I'd drop you a line and invite you! We'd love to have you in our project :-) STTW (talk) 15:57, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

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Use of catmore

Hello. I just noticed that you placed a {{catmore}} on Category:Beauty pageants. I was wondering if this makes sense given that Beauty pageants is actually a redirect? --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 12:58, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

If you prefer, we can replace it by {{catmore|Beauty contest}}, but I think it doesn't really matter, both are OK. 16@r 11:41, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

OK thanks. I guess unless someone changes the redirect it will make no difference. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 14:33, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Refresh AfD nomination

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Category:Projects by type

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Wiktionary template

If a page at a dictionary word title does not exist, it is better to remove the links to it rather than add this template. This isn't supposed to be used as a filler for every dictionary word. —Centrx→talk • 14:18, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Also note that this template discourages the creation of legitimate articles at titles that happen to also be dictionary words. —Centrx→talk • 14:20, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Nicolas Chauvin

Don't add en interwikis to en articles. AnonMoos 12:56, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Languages of the European Union

I do not understand what the column "mean" you have added is supposed to show. Could you, please, explain?--Michkalas 11:04, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Amora

Apologies, I don't know what happened there. I deleted a one-sentence stub about Amora mustard, but seem to have taken down this article instead. There's nothing in the history to suggest that the article was vandalised by pasting the mustard def, so I can't explain -sorry again. jimfbleak 17:28, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

This is what my deletion log says: 17:18, 12 May 2007: Jimfbleak (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "Amora (mustard)" (neg content was: 'Amora is a French mustard.{{condiment-stub}Category:Condimentsfr:Amora (moutarde)' (and the only contributor was '16@r')) (Restore)

According to the page history, its log and my deletion log (above) Amora has never been deleted. Weird. jimfbleak 05:29, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

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Re: Template:atn

It doesn't work here :( 16@r 18:43, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

For some strange reason subpages don't work in the Help talk: namespace. Notice how there isn't a link back to the main talk page at the top of the archive page, either. Unfortunately there's no way to get any template to work automatically in such a situation because {{SUBPAGENAME}} returns the wrong value (the whole page name, minus the namespace, rather than just the subpage name). Use {{archive-nav|4}}, instead (change the number 4 to the archive number, if you add it to other pages) – Gurch 19:41, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Regarding redirect5

Regarding redirect5, I wanted to bring your attention to the deletion discussion at TFD, here. Removal of references to this deprecated template was also requested at the Administrator's Noticeboard, here. Understandably, most removal of templates from such lists are improper, but this one was intentional; Template:Redirect now includes all the functionality redirect5 used to provide.

Let me know if you've got any questions. Serpent's Choice 11:08, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:See Wiktionary

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Cuteness

I reverted your addition of an image to Cuteness. Images have been fought over on that article and are not particularly helpful there. —AldeBaer 08:54, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

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Surname and given name articles

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Austerity

The economic concept of "Austerity" is obscure and at best only of interest to economists, and only a segment of that small population. Redirecting a term as general as "Austere" instead of just leaving "Austerity" in the Wikitionary and adding a disambiguity page would have been appropriate, but the only people looking for the economic theory you decided should "own" the term "Austere" wouldn't type "Austere", they're economists so they'll search for "Austerity", and probably in Wikitionary where it probably belongs. The page needed to be a a pointer to several refs, since the EP by the band Sparta hardly constituted the best entry for it, but a far better approach would have been a disamb. page and point to Austere the EP by Sparta, Austere the band, and Austerity - the economic concept, just with the reference to the entry in Wikitionary, which covers the concept just fine.

We're trying to fix it but there's three other people trying at the same time, so maybe you should put a little thought into big changes like this in the future, OK? Sorry if this message seems blunt or snarky but I'm tired and been in front of this damned COM-POO-TOR for 15 hours, so my appy-polly-loggies, but you really should have just put a reference under "Austerity" specifically to the Wikitionary entry. The only people who'd care to find the current entry after typing "Austere" are Economists, and they wouldn't type "Austere" - they'd use the proper term, yeah? OK mate, peace and all, looks like at least two of the ppl fixing this are admins, so hopefully you don't get knocked too bad, and be a little more thoughtful in the future? Cheers, sincerely, A —Preceding unsigned comment added by Austere (talk • contribs) 06:44, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Cripes, chap

You French? Parlez-vous français? If so, and you do not parlez-vous Anglais, then you prolly don't realize that half or more of the Talk feedback you have are people reverting or removing or telling you the changes you've made were wrong, inappropriate, unnecessary, etc. When half your "Talk" page is full of entries of people saying "We reverted your changes" then you obviously need to sit back and stop changing things until you learn how to do it correctly, eh? You're just pissing people off, mate. Cheers, A

Austere 06:49, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Truth in Numbers

I think the namespace idea is quite good but I don't really know how to actually do it. I could use some help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by U5K0 (talk • contribs) 13:42, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

OK and if you could provide a link I would be very grateful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by U5K0 (talk • contribs) 13:46, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

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Regarding hatnotes

You might want to read and understand the "Examples of improper use" section of WP:HN, particularly "Disambiguating article names that are not ambiguous". This is with reference to your edit to John von Neumann, which I reverted, but you may have made similar edits to other articles that may need reconsidering in light of the usage policy. In general, hatnotes are to be used sparingly, and only for the purpose of disambiguation, never for the purpose of link enrichment (i.e., providing users another interesting, irrelevant link to click on). Unchecked, hatnotes can multiply rapidly. Putting a "John Neumann" hatnote at the top of the John von Neumann article makes no more sense then adding hatnotes to disambiguate him on the words "John" or on "Neumann". None of these terms redirects to him, so no one can arrive at his article and be confused because they were searching for a different topic. Robert K S 17:21, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for the confusion and thanks for your thorough explanation. I don't know why I didn't see that you weren't the first to add the hatnote. I don't think any hatnote is necessary, but I'd go with whatever the consensus is. If you think it's appropriate, feel free to bring it up on the talk page. Cheers, Robert K S 00:17, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

"English dialects"

Could you please read at least the first line of articles before making edits regarding them? If you had, you'd know that neither Greeklish nor Finglish are dialects of English. --Alivemajor 16:49, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Truth in Numbers: The Wikipedia Story

Hi. I'm pleased to be able to tell you that the 'project' has been very productive, so if you have time you could possibly translate some of the info to your article in french. I have however run into some trouble. Apparently you can't link project pages to articles very easily(complicated rules). I was wondering if you could help me get an accurate assessment as to weather the article is good enough to publish now or not. Thank you. U5K0 19:35, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

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Wikirage

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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Googlism.gif

Thanks for uploading Image:Googlism.gif. However, there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please read the instructions at Wikipedia:Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot (talk) 17:56, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Wikipedia:Truth in Numbers: The Wikipedia Story

Wikipedia:Truth in Numbers: The Wikipedia Story, a page you created, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Truth in Numbers: The Wikipedia Story and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Wikipedia:Truth in Numbers: The Wikipedia Story during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. • Lawrence Cohen 00:39, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Google Video.png)

Thanks for uploading Image:Google Video.png. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BetacommandBot (talk) 20:48, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Canonical.png)

Thanks for uploading Image:Canonical.png. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BetacommandBot (talk) 20:51, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection logo.gif

Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection logo.gif. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 20:28, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

RfD nomination of Facile

I have nominated Facile (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Lilac Soul ^{(talk • contribs • count)} 23:05, 23 December 2007 (UTC)