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Hello Brambleclawx! I noticed that your name is a name from the warrior cats series, and I was wondering if you like warriors too?[[User:Zekepepe|Zekepepe]] ([[User talk:Zekepepe|talk]]) 22:34, 11 August 2010 (UTC)


== Thank you!!! ==
== Thank you!!! ==

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Hello there, and welcome to my talkpage. Feel free to contact me here by starting a new section at the bottom of the page. Thank you, and remember, be polite! I will try to address any concerns, but in order to do that effectively, we must all be calm.

Also, please note that I will probably not need {{talkback}} templates: either I have watchlisted you (if I work with you often, or you are in WikiProject Warriors) or I will be periodically checking for replies.

Thank you! Brambleclawx

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Hello Brambleclawx! I noticed that your name is a name from the warrior cats series, and I was wondering if you like warriors too?Zekepepe (talk) 22:34, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!!!

Thank you for telling me on my talk page that I needed to use {{subst:mysterytotrackerinvite}} instead of just {{mysterytotrackerinvite}}
You can join the Tracker Task Force here. I am just an ameteur at Wikipedia, so I am glad with any help I get.

Once again, thanks a bunch!!! Hidividedby5 (talk) 21:38, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I will consider joining, but I am not an expert, as I have never read the series... If you need any more help, feel free to ask me. Brambleclawx 21:40, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just letting you know the current format requires horizontal scroll bars on smaller screen resolutions - that's why I offered a second design. Have fun ;) Airplaneman 04:31, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ah... Isn't it possible to just downsize the boxes then? Brambleclawx 14:16, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have tried before and it doesn't seem to work. (had this problem on my old userpage as well - getting rid of the side column (the one with your userboxes) would fix it). Probably just the formatting. Removing the width doesn't seem to be helping either; maybe it defaults to 100%? Setting it to like 60% won't help either (I tried). Airplaneman 00:37, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Airman: see WP:APPLE and WT:APPLE. mono 01:44, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Seen it already - like the reorganization. Why post a message @me @here? I have a talk page :) Airplaneman 02:41, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't mind the random comments, since I do it a lot. See the very long edit summary for my next edit to the newuserpage. Brambleclawx 17:33, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Also, Airplaneman, do you think this is any use to the Warriors article? Brambleclawx 17:53, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well if you don't might me answering, I don't really think that this can be used. It doesn't really offer any information about the Warriors series and its just about how these kids like the series. Although it's great to see kids like the series, I don't think people care about how kids feel about books. People tend to listen to professional critics and Wikipedia. :) Derild4921 18:17, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Though it might give a perspective of its popularity compared to other books... Brambleclawx 18:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if you put it that way...it might be able to be squeezed in somehow... Also, do you think it would be ok to uses reviews from here for Ranger's Apprentice? Derild4921 18:29, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure... I suppose you could always give it a try, and if it doesn't work out, you can remove it later. Brambleclawx 18:30, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, then. I'll try it out then. Derild4921 18:33, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
About the link, BC, I guess it could be an interesting add, but the evidence is too narrow; you can't conclude which books are popular by looking at three random kids from a random school. Just my take on it. @Derild, see my talk page. Airplaneman 23:12, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Alright then. Brambleclawx 23:14, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions?

Hi, I'm trying to clean up Ranger's Apprentice over the summer. So far I've written the plot and setting, but they still need some references. I've been having trouble when it comes to characters because I don't know if I should keep the current list or delete that and begin adding reviews and themes. Talk page stalkers are welcome to help! Thanks! Derild4921 16:16, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I personally have no idea... I would take out the less important characters though. Brambleclawx 22:11, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I already have, but the page is still pretty long...I'll probably only keep the ones that appear in every book and get rid of the horses. Derild4921 22:14, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good. Brambleclawx 22:20, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for the info re:sockpupetry

Perhaps the allegations make me technically guilty of that offence.

However, I have always been completely honest about my identity and have not tried to deceive anyone in any way.

I have only ever wanted to use one account. The problem is they keep getting blocked. Quite how can anyone legitimately protest their blocking which is clearly erroneous without resorting to such drastic action is beyond me. Perhaps you have a better idea?

Anyway, that is not the core isssue here. The core issue is that ohnoitsjamie (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has deleted, for no good reason the following articles:

It should be clear who the real disruptive influence is here. Thanks for your attention. Ohyesitssirfrancis (talk) 21:31, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker)Sorry, Ohyesitssirfrancis, but those pages seem to have been deleted quite legitimately. In particular, you edited while blocked and recreated pages deleted after consensus to delete was established in a discussion. The templates were deleted because they had no independent value apart from the articles. See WP:CSD and review each of the criteria. If you keep getting blocked, you might like to ask your self "why?" rather than creating another account in order to bypass the block. BTW, Ohnoitsjamie's block log makes for funny bedtime reading!!! --Jubileeclipman 01:11, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This message is quite long, so I hope you will patiently read it all: I suggest that originally, you should have waited your block out, given it some thought, then discussed it, perhaps with the deleting user. You could've explained why you thought the pages were useful, before re-creating them after they were deleted. I suppose all this advice is pointless now since you're indef-blocked... I'm not sure what you could do now, but my advice is to wait maybe... a week or two at least, but a month would be better, and think about it carefully: Why do you feel this article/template is important enough to not be deleted, and then try to see it from other people's perspective; when you have a clearer understanding of both sides, formulate a calm, logical "argument" (not an angry-arguing argument, as in a calm debate-argument. read WP:CIVIL for advice), then request unblocking of your original account, through the email of unblock-en-llists.wikimedia.org.
However, read the guide to appealing a block, and for you, especially, read the section about blocked sockpuppeteers. As you can see, they suggest not editing for a while, and when you feel ready, request unblocking on your original account. WP:AAB tells us that creating a new account to appeal a block is wrong, so I do NOT expect you to reply to this message, because then you would be reducing your chances of ever being pardoned. The main point of being unblocked is demonstrating that you understand what you did wrong, and agreeing to not do so again (in your case, the improper use of multiple accounts, and "disruptive editing" due to creation of articles deleted by discussion. When and if you successfully appeal, and are unblocked, you will be expected to stick to the account, and not create those pages again. If you do want those pages recreated, I would suggest that you take it to deletion review. Once again, I hope it wasn't tl;dr, and that you take this advice to heart.
To make a long story short: wait a sufficient amount of time; request unblocking through email provided above, explaining why you should unblock, and demonstrating that you understand what you did wrong (and agree not to do it), then if you still feel the article should be created, take it to deletion review. Cheers, and I will keep track of you, shoudl you successfully return. Brambleclawx 22:00, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the welcome. Adding extra spaces..

wow.. are we monitored closely? that was fast :p

How do we insert an extra space between sentences. I know its not the norm but can often improve readability if there are lots of citations at the end of a previous sentence. --Warpslider (talk) 23:29, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly do you mean by extra spaces? Could you maybe give me an example? Brambleclawx 23:30, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just spacing chars... for instance if I press the keyboard's space key 2-4 times in-between sentences (within a paragraph), wikipedia always reverts to one spacing char - it seems to have imposed this as a default --Warpslider (talk) 00:01, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it does that. If you're trying to get more spaces in, I would try inserting multiple non-breaking spaces, by typing &Nbsp; (using a lowercase n), so for example, Rocks are tasty if I eat&Nbsp;&Nbsp;&Nbsp;them as a meal should give: Rocks are tasty if I eat   them as a meal. But I think it's common practice to just leave it at one space. Whith refereces, there shouldn't be a space after the period before the <ref> tag. So it should be: "Rocks are good pets.<ref>My first encyclopedia of fun</ref> This is the next sentence". Too many refs after one statement is something we try to avoid though, so if there's too many references for one statement, when a few would be enough, get rid of the unneeded ones. Brambleclawx 00:07, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot!     it took me a long while to figure it out. I missed the part where you said --> (using a lowercase n) on &Nbsp !!
So i was wondering.. are you assign to certain topics/region where a new article triggers a pop-up box for you to vet ? --Warpslider (talk) 01:01, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No, no one is assigned to anything. You can do whatever you feel like, just try to follow the rules on being polite and not being disruptive. Most articles don't really need to be checked before they are created, but if they're no good, they can be caught by New pages patrollers, who check newly made pages. A lot of Wikipedians join WikiProjects, which are basically groups of Wikipedians who work together to improve articles of a certain topic. Oh, and you can add pages to a "watchlist" by pressing the star at the top of pages (beside "view history"). Then, when you go to "my watchlist" right at the top, you can see all the new changes to the pages you watchlist. Brambleclawx 22:32, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, thanks again for the explanation! gosh there's just sooo much to read and know. Hope to find some time to go through the links you provided soon. cheers --Warpslider (talk) 12:24, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you ever need help, feel free to ask. Brambleclawx 20:52, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops

Sorry about this. I erased the number first, added the source and then forgot to add the number back in. Also,if you looked at the source you could have saved time not counting the weeks since it's on the list ;). Derild4921 21:50, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh wait, you counted out when it started being on the list, not how many weeks it was on the list. Ignore the strike out line part then!Derild4921 21:52, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I'm confused as to how they count it; do they mean consecutive weeks, or totla weeks? Brambleclawx 21:56, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure either...Derild4921 21:59, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've done a bit of looking, and Warriors: The New Prophecy first showed up on their list in January 2006. They didn't count Warriors as a whole until sometime in summer 2008. And what kind of silly description is that?: "... meet up with the StarClan?" They don't want to die! I'll continue looking through their archives... Brambleclawx 22:05, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I'll look around too, but I just put that in when I had a chance to use my laptop which can use any site, but the computer I'm using now can only look up a few sites. I'll try to get on my laptop soon...Derild4921 22:19, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. Brambleclawx 22:20, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jan Smuts

Thanks for pointing that out. However, as noted on my user page, I don't intend to edit those articles again. If you wish to contribute to those articles, please feel free to find reliable sources that help to verify any unsupported statements yourself. I may, in a long time, choose to re-edit those articles so that they correspond to the standards now expected of Wikipedia and expected of my edits. In the meantime, please don't hold your breath. Thank you. Bastin 22:22, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

I'll let it be then... I have a lot of things I'm working on... Brambleclawx 22:40, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BLP PRODs

Hi, thanks for your efforts, just a friendly note to say that sticking a PROD tag on an article while the original is clearly still working on it is a little bitey. You put a BLP PROD tag on Miriam Shao about ten minutes after the author's last edit and they had clearly been expanding it. Sometimes a polite note on their talk page or a {{BLP unsourced}} tag might get the message across that sources are required without frightening off a new editor. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:01, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My bad...? I'll remember that. Brambleclawx 21:51, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Brambleclawx. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Windclan Tales: Jinglekit, Mousekit, and Hustlekit, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not a recently created redirect - consider WP:RfD. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 22:26, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted as a test page. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 03:14, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry

I sincerely appologize for my earlier unconstructive edits; it will not happen again. I will not vandalize wiki again...sry again.The Lord of the Allosaurs (talk) 01:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alright. Just make sure you actually don't vandalise anymore. Most Wikipedians are very forgiving people. . Brambleclawx 17:33, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New page

looks great! Very creative. Also, sorry I missed that vandalism here earlier. I just wasn't around. Oh, and from today forward I'm on wikibreak. Details on my page in case you missed them. PrincessofLlyr royal court 22:44, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Hope to see you soon after your Wikibreak. I'll continue answering questions on your talk page for you. Brambleclawx 21:18, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dawn

Do you know if any exert of Dawn (Warriors) appears in any of the books or if it is mentioned in any chat or interview. I intend to write some kind of Pre-release history section, but I can't seem to find any information without the New Prophecy series books. Derild4921 15:19, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chances are, a couple of chapters appeared in the back of Moonrise. The probability is quite high. If you can access the page, here is a transcript of the Erin Hunter chat (maybe use you laptop that can go to more sites). This is the first chat, and the only one before the release date of Dawn. Some advance-copy readers comment, so there are mentions of it. Brambleclawx 23:05, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, ok I'll try looking in that page later. I'll probably go borrow Moonrise from the library soon too. Derild4921 23:09, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Good to know. and I thought you were on break. Brambleclawx 23:10, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well I was just to play some games, but then I got bored today so I came back out of boredom. Derild4921 23:38, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I'm now trying to get Into the Wild up to a GA and I was reading the first assessment and saw that a characters section would be needed, but I haven't seen it in any of the book articles. Is there a reason or should I add it in? Derild4921 15:54, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The first thing that comes to mind is that this is going to be a challenge. I hope you like 'em, cuz this goal will not be easy! Now, regarding characters, if you want to improve it to GA, I suppose you will need a short little section describing the most important characters, so definitely Rusty, Graystripe, Tigerstar, etc. At the top of this "characters" section you would probably add a link to the list of warriors characters using {{mainarticle}}. I think having this section makes the article less "in-universe" because we can't assume that a reader is going to just follow the link to the full list and be able to find all the characters that pertain to Into the Wild. I'll help a bit if you need it. Brambleclawx 17:10, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I do realize how hard this would be and I even have a harder crazier one here with 3 GA hopes, 7 B-Class and 3 C-Class. XD. Though its all about improving the article up to at least to C or if it is already, one level higher. Derild4921 17:22, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm aiming to raise the book articles to C-class once I get the main warriors article to GA. Brambleclawx 17:24, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah...back again. Do you know if there is any source that talks about the theme of forbidden love for that I can use for Into the Wild? Also, I got the origins and inspiration section from information that was deleted in the past so I don't know if the sources are right, can you just check to make sure that the sources work? Thanks! Derild4921 14:24, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm pretty sure those sources are good. The problem is the old refs for themes appear to link to the second Erin HUnter chat, whose transcript has been mysteriously blank for some time now... Brambleclawx 22:33, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, that's bad, I'll see if I can find anything for that then. Derild4921 22:40, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge discussion for Foot odor

I have proposed that Smelly socks be merged to Foot odor. Since you contributed to the recent AfD on Smelly socks, you might be interested in participating in the discussion to merge at Talk:Foot odor#Merger proposal. SnottyWong squeal 05:24, 20 July 2010 (UTC) [reply]

The Wikipedia Signpost

In case you don't know, I added a request for an interview for WikiProject Warriors in the Signpost here.Derild4921 16:08, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'll keep an eye on that then. Brambleclawx 16:15, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

new to editing wikipedia

this is katty24.

I am new to editing wikipedia and so would like your guidance. I am working on an individual's piece: Eric Margolis. I have attempted to make changes and I believe that they have been changed back. For example, I modified "Background" in reference to Nexhmie Zaimi as "a journalist and author" period. This was previously mentioned as "his American-Albanian mother who was a journalist and author". Reference to Henry M. Margolis mentions him as "a New York businessman......". The same level of gender respect and respect for profession should be allowed to Ms. Zaimi. The paragraph mentions "Margolis was born.....to Henry M. Margolis, a New York businessman..etc.....and Nexhmie Zaimi, his American-Albanian mother.....etc.etc.....". In its current state, reference to her profession as a journalist and author seems like an afterthought. The first sentence in the paragraph is clear in stating Eric Margolis' relationship to Nexhmie Zaimi. To state that she is his mother is redundant and adds nothing to the paragraph. To state that she is an American-Albanian mother adds nothing to the paragragh. I have attempted to refer to Nexhmie Zaimi and her profession in the same manner and with the same level of respect given to Henry M. Margolis and yet I continue to receive notices and this change (amongst others) reverts back.

Can you please assist me? Thank you! --Katty24 (talk) 19:37, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have reviewed sections re: Wikipedia. I think that I angered certain seasoned editors as I did not include the edit summary. My huge mistake! My apologies to one and all. I will attempt again and thank you for your patience! --Katty24 (talk) 15:03, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You don't actually have to write an edit summary, it's just that most editors prefer it so they know what has been done to the page, and sometimes, the edit summary may include why you did something, especially if it might be controversial. I split up/restructured the sentence you mentioned above so that his parents' professions are listed in a second sentence, hopefully so that it reads better. Also, regarding the other edits, generally, you should explain why you are removing text, especially if the text has a citation. Brambleclawx 20:14, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey!

Haven't talked in a while :). I see you're forgetting to leave edit summaries *shakes head disapprovingly*. Even for small contribs, I try to put something in, such as "fix", "tweak", "ce" (copyedit), or something. Anyway, since you work a lot in Erin Hunter articles, I thought this might interest you. Anyway, it was nice to talk again! Airplaneman 20:55, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I was just thinking about how much I missed talking to you and Princess (after seeing Princess' hello on your talk page). I'll look at the merge proposal (I've never read Seekers yet). I tend to not leave edit summaries when I'm rushed . I'll try to use the edit summary more. Brambleclawx 20:58, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK; sounds fine and saves time. I'm saddened to say that I have lost interest in Warriors (which my sister introduced me to) and only got as far as the second book in Seekers :(. I'll still try to edit their articles, though :). Airplaneman 21:04, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. =) Brambleclawx 21:05, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Believe it or not, I've already found the themes in SkyClan's Destiny in the author chat. That should keep it from being deleted. I've read Seekers, but lost interest in the 5th book. Derild4921 21:10, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I highly doubt I'll ever lose interest in Warriors... Good news for the project! But I'm still feeling quite bonked, with all this memorisation to do every day, studying music history... I didn't even feel like vandal-fighting today. The event that I most anticipate in the near future is the August 15 author chat... plenty of fresh Warriors info! Brambleclawx 21:14, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well good luck getting over the bonk! If only some one I knew had a wands and worlds account...Derild4921 21:17, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah... then we could ask the Erins for all the reliable info we'd ever need! Brambleclawx 21:18, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, hopefully the chats will count as reliable sources during GAs otherwise the bulk of our info is gone >.<Derild4921 21:24, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure they'll be reliable, but not by themselves; you'll need some third party sources too. Airplaneman 21:32, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's so difficult to find third-party sources for Warriors... I get so frustrated by it. Brambleclawx 18:12, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I finally found the second chat transcript from a link on the Guttersnipe leading to a webarchived one! Link is here! Derild4921 18:27, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome! That's defintely a link that I need to keep! Brambleclawx 18:31, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Problem

I've got good news and bad news. Good news is that Into the Wild (Warriors) has made it to GA. Bad news is the reviewer reviewed it wrong. As you can see nothing was listed here and the reviewer made all the changes by theirself. And truthfully, I really don't like the layout now. Should we change it back or ask for a reassessment or just keep it as it is? Derild4921 13:48, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, after posting it up on WP talk:GAR the issue has been fixed and problems are now being fixed on the review page. It should pass! Derild4921 23:27, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, reviewers are encouraged to fix stuff if they can. Though I see some stuff has been placed in the review area now. Brambleclawx 20:14, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Warriors GA3

Have you considered requesting that a trusted editor review it? Might get it done faster! PrincessofLlyr royal court 18:48, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, maybe Truthkeeper88 though I think he's on wikibreak, I'll also look around for some others. Derild4921 19:23, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I was actually thinking someone other than Truthkeeper, given that several of us have interacted with him multiple times before. I have a couple of people in mind too. I'll wait to see what BCx says before I ask. PrincessofLlyr royal court 20:00, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, ok but I really don't know anyone else :p Derild4921 20:34, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to bother you so much when you're taking a break, but can you find any place that proves China publishes Firestar's Quest? I have found people talking it about it but no online store that gives information I need. I'm done about an hour's searching but nothing comes up. Thanks in advance! Derild4921 02:00, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
iDid 1.5 minutes of searching, ending up here. I pressed "ctrl+F" and searched "China". I clicked on ref #2. If you can somehow search the site, it might have a mention of Firestar's Quest in it. If not, I wouldn't worry about it until a reliable source reports it. As for the GA review, best of luck! I would review it myself, but I've edited it too much to feel comfortable doing so. Besides, I'm busying myself reviewing airplane articles :). Also, wish Jubilee well at his talk (thanks for starting the thread, Princess!) Airplaneman 02:30, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sadly, I visited that link yesterday and there was no link to Firestar's quest. I could only find an english edition of the book on an online chinese book sale. Well, I don't have to have the chinese version for the article though it would be nice if I could. Derild4921 12:14, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And, Bcx, not sure when you come back, but take a look at this. Hopefully the link is the right one... Derild4921 16:51, 4 August 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Good luck finding more links/refs. That's rough. Airman, he's the only one of my old stalkers that I haven't seen around in awhile. That's perfectly understandable since he's caring for his dad, but I wanted him to know that we did miss him. Oh, and if anyone's interested in Fablehaven, I'm about to move the wikiproject to a task force and attempt to revive it. PrincessofLlyr royal court 17:58, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry about the sudden disappearance everyone. A former teacher's wedding on Saturday, friends coming for a backyard barbeque on Sunday, Peach/plum-picking on Monday (Civic holiday), and studying for Friday's exam+piano practice added up to me not showing up on Wiki.
  • The review can wait, it's not too much of an issue. (there is a backlog, and plenty of articles nominated before this one)
  • Not sure about Firestar's Quest. In fact, I'm not sure if it's been published in China at all...
  • And yep! That's a correct link to A FIFTH WARRIORS SERIES (pardon the shouting, hopefully doesn't set off an edit filter)
  • I sure hope Jubilee is doing ok...

Brambleclawx 20:21, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New ubox and top-icon for WikiGryphons

blanking of talk page messages

Regarding this edit:[1], users are explicitly allowed to remove almost anything from their talk pages. WP:BLANKING is the relevant policy section. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:46, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks, I didn't know that. Brambleclawx 15:46, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
LOL, this is exactly the same thing I did here! And yea, try reading WP:TPO as well if you haven't yet :) Airplaneman 15:56, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's like a wiki right of passage, everybody does it at least once and then they get a message like this. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:02, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like I've joined the club then . Brambleclawx 16:11, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think we should remove the references for the plot? Usually in the separate book articles it is accepted that the plot is taken from the book so wouldn't the same thing apply here? Also, should we shorten the plot even further so nothing except absolutely plot is in? We could remove everything from the first series except Firepaw entering the Clan, Tigerstar's betrayal and attempts to destroy the Clan, Graystripe with Silverstream and the final battle with BloodClan. It's just an idea so I won't think about the other series yet. Thanks! Derild4921 22:40, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think that we should keep citations for important details. And aren't the plot summaries only containing plot now? Brambleclawx 15:43, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Looking back on the article, it does only contain the plot info so I'll see if I can shorten it anyways. As for the refs, I also asked User talk:Truthkeeper88#Warriors (novel series) the same thing. According to him we don't need refs so should we take them out? I already got rid of the ones in the original series. Derild4921 15:53, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, ok, but be careful, since some books are cited elsewhere in the article. Brambleclawx 15:55, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I'll try to get it done today. Derild4921 15:56, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]