User talk:Acroterion

Beware! This user's talk page is monitored by talk page watchers. Some of them even talk back. Signpost Loctician Can I repost the same info without putting the salons website info on it. she is actually the first person to have to word trademarked and its on file with the commomwealth of Virginia state corporation commission. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simone105 (talk • contribs) 03:08, 3 May 2011 (UTC) The most important issue is whether the term has received coverage in third-party media, like a story in a major newspaper. Trademarking isn't significant on its own - Wikipedia determines notability by reference to multiple instances of coverage. See WP:NOTE. If the term has widespread use, it could be included. If it's restricted to a single salon (and I would think it would be if it's trademarked - that's the point of trademarking), then it's unlikely to be notable. In no case would a link to the salon be appropriate. Acroterion (talk) 03:12, 3 May 2011 (UTC) This term is used nationwide, however this person was the first to trademark it. The word had been in circulation since the late 90's but locs were not as popular then. It is semi popular but just as the dreadlock community is growing so is the popularity of the word. just google it. So how can i post the definition without being deleted, Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simone105 (talk • contribs) 03:44, 3 May 2011 (UTC) can i re post? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simone105 (talk • contribs) 04:13, 3 May 2011 (UTC) I'd suggest that you develop a draft, with references, in tour userspace at User:Simone105/sandbox. You can write and collect references there without deletion. In generfal, unreferenced new articles don't fare well, so it's vital that you find high-quality references in newspapers and other publications to support the article. Acroterion (talk) 11:21, 3 May 2011 (UTC) Could you please block this user... User:Zobian1, according to a message he left on my talk page he is a way for User:Thezob to evade his block. mauchoeagle (c) 18:32, 3 May 2011 (UTC) Taken care of - wasn't very long ago, and his parting shot had to be oversighted. Acroterion (talk) 19:00, 3 May 2011 (UTC) Just in case your feeling block-happy, I have another case for you, User talk:Boom Boom Bhusani. He is abusing talk page privileges. Could you also handle this. mauchoeagle (c) 20:02, 3 May 2011 (UTC) Acalamari already took care of it; thanks for the heads-up. Acroterion (talk) 20:09, 3 May 2011 (UTC) Morgan-Manning House Hi: We have a problem with User:Blueboy96. He keeps re-adding specious information to Morgan-Manning House originally introduced by User:69.14.19.51 and repeatedly corrected by a number of well meaning editors. Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide.--Pubdog (talk) 01:16, 4 May 2011 (UTC) You might want to discuss it directly with him, don't you think? I wouldn't call the material he's reverting spam, although it reads like a little bit of local boosterism, but I'm not convinced that the use of sniper rifles and the relationship that gave the house its name are particularly germane. Blueboy's reasonable; talk to him about your concerns. Acroterion (talk) 01:39, 4 May 2011 (UTC) Will do--Pubdog (talk) 10:10, 4 May 2011 (UTC) Starving the trolls - "Riverton High School" Hi Acroterion, Though this of course doesn't show up in the edit history, I jumped in and added, Riverton High School is a secondary school located Riverton, Illinois, America. with the edit summary, "Starve troll by wikifying article". Is it OK with you if I re-start the article? --Shirt58 (talk) 12:28, 4 May 2011 (UTC) Fine with me; I took is as a test article creation by someone showing off to friends, rather than real trolling. Acroterion (talk) 12:30, 4 May 2011 (UTC) Swanton, Maryland Hi.. back to your part of the world. Article Swanton, Maryland demographics are out of whack. Any advice?--Pubdog (talk) 00:32, 6 May 2011 (UTC) I'm not familiar with appropriate sources for that kind of demographic information: perhaps Nyttend might know where to look. Looking through the history I don't see a good version to revert back to. It's an area of high growth, so it could have changed population fairly quickly. Acroterion (talk) 03:46, 6 May 2011 (UTC) Rebeca the RocketNuggle09 (talk) 03:27, 6 May 2011 (UTC)Nuggle09 Hello, I would like to start out by saying that I am happy wikipedi has contributers like you to keep wikipedia fresh and accurate. Today an article was written about Rebeca the Rocket, a person that I personally know and is near and dear to me. I can assure you that this is a real person with a huge reputation in columbia. Its very important to me that she, Rebeca, gets the recognation that she deserves. If there is any editing I can peronaly do to improve the article, and sources, or increase its signifgance, please let me know as soon as posssible. You can contact me at <email redacted>. I appreciate the work you put into wikkipedia and hope you keep up the good work. Nuggle09 From what you've written, there are no references to substantiate the article's claims, nor is there any indication of compliance with the notability guidelines at WP:BIO. You might want to try editing in a sandbox in your userspace if you can provide references. Acroterion (talk) 04:41, 6 May 2011 (UTC) Hudson Castle Group, Inc. Could you educate me? There have been a series of edits of this article by a user named Registered1234 or somesuch. No problem. But I look at his contributions and see no changed for most of them. The column on the left and right seem to be the same. What gives with this? Paul, in Saudi (talk) 02:15, 7 May 2011 (UTC) Usually that means there was a spacing change, since a space won't show up in red. Acroterion (talk) 02:22, 7 May 2011 (UTC) Thank you, I am new at this. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 03:57, 7 May 2011 (UTC) Reviewer Could you support me to become a reviewer on wikipedia here. Thanks Wilbysuffolk talk 14:25, 8 May 2011 (UTC) Why the delete? Hey, I just started a page for the Buell Motor Company and you deleted it right away. The Buell motor company is NOT the same as the the Buell Motorcycle Company that followed it which needs to be known and it's history documented. Regards Gavin —Preceding unsigned comment added by Agusta74 (talk • contribs) 00:58, 11 May 2011 (UTC) Replied and userfied at your talk page. Acroterion (talk) 01:15, 11 May 2011 (UTC) Page deleted? Hi there You previously deleted an entry at http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Internet_Business_Group. I have reviewed the original content, and have re-created it citing references as per the guidelines for the pages regarding organizations. I am recreating the page with the references (and corrections to any issues regarding objectivity) and would appreciate your feedback directly if anything is still amiss. Cheers! Rwelement24 (talk) 22:40, 11 May 2011 (UTC) Could you please take a look... at Bauhaus dance and tell me if CSDing is needed. mauchoeagle (c) Seems reasonably notable, but lacking in sources. Pretty much anything to do with Gropius and the Bauhaus would be notable, and I recall reading about the dances. Acroterion (talk) 23:48, 11 May 2011 (UTC) I am still on the edge so I will do an AfD, not to get it deleted but to attract attention so people can improve it. On an unrelated not, could you also take a look at Minecraft Crafting. mauchoeagle (c) 00:03, 12 May 2011 (UTC) AfD really isn't a good way to improve references: not that it doesn't work, but it's not an appropriate use of the process. I'll see if I can round up some references. Acroterion (talk) 00:07, 12 May 2011 (UTC) Minecraft Crafting zapped; WP isn't a game guide. Acroterion (talk) 00:08, 12 May 2011 (UTC) I have done AfD several times in order to improve article, yes I know I am a conman. :). mauchoeagle (c) 00:09, 12 May 2011 (UTC) Could you please delete Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bauhaus dance. mauchoeagle (c) 00:16, 12 May 2011 (UTC) Done. Now we can improve the article from the sources. Acroterion (talk) 00:20, 12 May 2011 (UTC) I found a pretty good, up-to-standard reference but, as a precaution to not break anything, I will let you interpret the information, the source is Bauhaus, 1919-1933 By Magdalena Droste, Bauhaus-Archiv Nice reference, feel free to incorporate it, or I'll see what I can do once I've finished cleaning up from dinner. I've removed the AfD notice from the OP's userpage, since that kind of thing can be off-putting for new contributors. Acroterion (talk) 00:32, 12 May 2011 (UTC) IP 123.231.94.55 Thanks for the block. Unfortunately, it's a game of whack-a-mole as a range block on 123.231.64.0/18 would impact a large number of legitimate editors in addition to the vandal. I think it's the same editor from the article and talk page at Reporters Without Borders (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch. Multiple IPs in the same range had been edit-warring in the article over POV material followed by edit-warring on the talk page over the restoration of personal attacks (resulting in both the article and the talk page being semi-protected). --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 04:00, 12 May 2011 (UTC) Ironically, they decided to make common cause with an obvious racist IP from Atlanta when they reverted WPCH-TV in their "Ghandian protest." I thought for a minute that the Atlanta vandal was using proxies. Acroterion (talk) 11:36, 12 May 2011 (UTC) Room 130 We were not attacking our "subjects" We were simply describing our classroom why did you delete our article —Preceding unsigned comment added by Room130 (talk • contribs) 17:26, 12 May 2011 (UTC) You were using the article to attack your teacher. As a veteran of drafting/AutoCAD classes, I know the feeling, but Wikipedia isn;t the appropriate forum for your views. Acroterion (talk) 18:00, 12 May 2011 (UTC) Taylor Britt FWIW, it was also a hoax. Eagles 24/7 (C) 18:17, 14 May 2011 (UTC) Yeah, I was running out of space in the deletion rationale. I'll nominate the images for deletion on Commons too. Acroterion (talk) 18:21, 14 May 2011 (UTC) Just for future reference, what would be a valid rationale for deletion for those images? Eagles 24/7 (C) 19:13, 14 May 2011 (UTC) I use "out of project scope:personal images of a minor," which usually works. Acroterion (talk) 19:21, 14 May 2011 (UTC) Alright, thanks. Eagles 24/7 (C) 19:38, 14 May 2011 (UTC) claudia beamish http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD#cite_note-Hasty-2 please restore i have only just created it and filling it out and notable under http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:POLITICIAN —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nirame (talk • contribs) 20:26, 14 May 2011 (UTC) Restored minus the initial copyright violation. In the future, please don't copy material from politicians' websites to start articles. It's easy enough to create a single well-composed article and use that as a template, rather than copying copyrighted material and changing it to a one-sentence stub that provides no context. Acroterion (talk) 20:40, 14 May 2011 (UTC) sure i only had to click save as my browser was crashing otherwise i only put in my own wordings —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nirame (talk • contribs) 06:16, 15 May 2011 (UTC) Barnstar The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar Thanks for Reverting Vandalism to my Homepage :) Floul1Talk To me 21:08, 14 May 2011 (UTC) Thanks - it's Saturday night in the UK and the vandals are having their fun. Acroterion (talk) 21:10, 14 May 2011 (UTC) Hi Acroterion As you correctly point out in my talk page, my comments in the VegitaU talkpage weren't polite, so i delete them. Now, can I ask you why you delete my comments in the Talk:American Airlines Flight 77, being understood that this is a page for discussion. Thanks in advance. --Solde9 (talk) 14:33, 15 May 2011 (UTC) Talkpages are not platforms for personal opinions on the subject of the article: they are to be used for discussion of article improvement. Please take the time to find the timestamp for discussions: you appear to have been complaining about actions by VegitaU that were three years old, and you've been spamming the 9/11 pilots link all over the page in old discussions; if you have something new to say that relates directly to article improvement, please add it in a new topic at the bottom of the page.. In general, as I advised in my reply to one of your comments, advocacy organizations are not acceptable sources for anything but their own beliefs: they exist to promote a particular point of view and make no pretense of neutral, scholarly research. In particular, the 9/11 pilots group lacks credibility even among 9/11 conspiracy theorists. It is in no way an acceptable source except as documentation of a fringe group largely rejected by other fringe groups. Please do not spam the link, and please do not use Wikipedia as a forum for personal opinion. Acroterion (talk) 16:00, 15 May 2011 (UTC) I understand. I will not continue posting the link, but I am still believe they are not a fringe group. Thanks for informing me about the rules. --Solde9 (talk) 16:11, 15 May 2011 (UTC) could you have a look at this users edits http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Derek_Mackay&diff=prev&oldid=429207843 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nirame (talk • contribs) 15:26, 15 May 2011 (UTC) They certainly have a rather promotional tone: I assume this is Mr. Mackay or someone closely associated. A gentle expression of concern about WP:COI would probably be in order - their edits are much milder than many I've seen by politicians or their staff. Acroterion (talk) 15:53, 15 May 2011 (UTC) thought that too given the schools info etc. though probably accurate if it is from the horses mouth theres probably no sources backing it all up. Yes i thought it was mild too no opposition bashing started(yet at least).Nirame (talk) 16:01, 15 May 2011 (UTC) I hate to sound cynical, but I'd agree that this is pretty restrained compared to some. Still, the additions may certainly be trimmed and rendered less glowing and more encyclopedic. Acroterion (talk) 16:03, 15 May 2011 (UTC) Medieval art May I ask for your attention on this article? There is a RfC going on plus a noticeboard: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Johnbod_reported_by_User:Gun_Powder_Ma_.28Result:_.29. --Anneyh (talk) 15:58, 15 May 2011 (UTC) Canyons of the Teton Range I just did a list/article on Canyons of the Teton Range...should it instead be Canyons in Grand Teton National Park? The reason I mention this is because all the real canyons are in the park and I intend to do a similar list for lakes, various animal/plant lists and related and they will be park specific....suggestions?--MONGO 19:44, 15 May 2011 (UTC) While it's generally true that the big time canyons are in the park, there are some features on the back side/west side of the range, like Teton Canyon, and other features to the south around Teton Pass that are called canyons. I think you should stick to Canyons of the Teton Range and the few that aren't in the park can be so noted. Acroterion (talk) 19:55, 15 May 2011 (UTC) That works...thanks for the input.--MONGO 10:33, 17 May 2011 (UTC) Garnett123456789 Thanks - I was just about to post at AIV to say I didn't think a block was necessary unless he returned to the charge. I hesitated whether to block, but I thought he had been rather BITE-ily met with warnings and no welcome, and deserved more explanation. I wish there was some way to explain to this sort of user when they register that if they think this is a free advertising platform they are in the wrong place. regards, JohnCD (talk) 14:49, 17 May 2011 (UTC) Your instinct was right - he posted the ad twice more, and I have now blocked. JohnCD (talk) 14:54, 17 May 2011 (UTC) I've long been frustrated with the amount of spam from new users, and have occasionally succeeded in redirecting spammers into more-or-less productive activity, but it takes a lot of work and the success rate is low. I think they read an article about social media and think WP is like Facebook or Twitter. I usually start out with a level 2 warning rater than the red stop sign and give them a couple of chances, so my initial instinct (leading to the withdrawal of my block) was similar to yours. Unfortunately, this one was determined. At least we tried. Acroterion (talk) 15:18, 17 May 2011 (UTC) How? Boredsohere (talk) 15:52, 17 May 2011 (UTC)How can you ask for a speedy deletion? I really want to know because I have seen some random stuff. Or things without resorcous. Also, how can you ask for a block or ban because I have seen some people with obseen names... You can find the criteria and templates for speedy deletion at Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion. Deletion should be approached with caution; if you tag things inappropriately, you may not be allowed to edit, and some of your recent contributions have been of a questionable nature (like Wowza, which I just deleted - if you don';t understand why it's inappropriate, you shouldn't be doing deletion tagging). For more general deletion, you can use Wikipedia:Proposed deletion. Again, you need to understand what you're doing first. If you see problematic names you can report them at WP:UAA; please read the account name policy (referenced on that page) first, and at all times, please avoid biting the newbies. Acroterion (talk) 16:01, 17 May 2011 (UTC) The Bugle: Issue LXII, April 2011 Your Military History Newsletter Project News: From the editors Articles: The month's featured and A-class Milhist content Members: Contest results, A-class medal recipients Editorial: Buggie111 discusses neutral point of view To stop receiving this newsletter, please list yourself in the appropriate section here. To assist with preparing the newsletter, please visit the newsroom. BrownBot (talk) 21:44, 17 May 2011 (UTC) What's wrong? What were you talking about? I didt see any thing wrong. BiggBirdd (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:29, 17 May 2011 (UTC). Talkback Hello, Acroterion. You have new messages at Karl 334's talk page. Message added 21:15, 18 May 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. RevDel request Recent edits at Cathy Barry, just reverted by me. New editor apparently trying to ridicule a private person. Thanks. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 02:53, 19 May 2011 (UTC) Done, and warned the user. Acroterion (talk) 02:56, 19 May 2011 (UTC) Thanks, and thanks for handling the revdel on the other page he hit. I'd put in a request for oversight on that one, but it looks like you got to it first. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 03:09, 19 May 2011 (UTC) Yeah, that one was worse. OS can decide if they want to obliterate it . Acroterion (talk) 03:10, 19 May 2011 (UTC) Entry deletion Hi there, I was wondering why you took off the link I added for social bookmarking sites? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrwebby1122 (talk • contribs) 03:47, 19 May 2011 (UTC) In genera, a link should not be added unless the subject is notable. Since I deleted the article as lacking in an assertion of notability, I removed the link on the same grounds. As I noted on your talkpage, you're welcome to develop an article in your userspace, where you can sort out notability and referencing at your convenience. Acroterion (talk) 03:50, 19 May 2011 (UTC) Harold Camping I thank you for your warning and I respect you administrating articles. However, I do not personally see my edit as vandalism. I do admit, however, that openly saying he is a "crazed lunatic" was the incorrect way to go about doing things. I believe in the merits of wikipedia and that it should strive for truth and excellence. There is absolutely no place in the current article about Camping that states science disagrees with his statements. Instead, the only mentions of disagreement are "As a result, some individuals have criticized him for 'date-setting'" and "they [a ministry] believe his entire method of Bible interpretation is flawed." If you would like, I can pen a section about the invalidity of his arguments from a fact-based scientific stance. If I cannot do it, someone most certainly should. Otherwise, wikipedia is no more than a medium for which inaccurate science can propagate through the minds of the public. When looking at a page such as homeopathy's, the second sentence reads "The collective weight of scientific evidence has found homeopathy to be no more effective than a placebo." Do you not think statements such as those made by Camping should get the same treatment? On a final note, 24 hours from now nearly the entire article I edited will be proven nonsense. The second sentence under this text box states "Encyclopedic content must be verifiable." Yet, despite this, the second paragraph of his page states: "He has used Bible-based numerology to predict dates for the end of the world.[2] His current end times prediction is that the Rapture will be on May 21, 2011 and that God will completely destroy the Earth and the universe five months later on October 21.[3][4] He had previously predicted that the Rapture would occur in September 1994.[5]" The only verifiable thing regarding these predictions is that they are wrong, yet that statement is nowhere to be found. Tomorrow evening, or Sunday if you wish, please add the sentence "He was wrong about both of his previous predictions" to the opening paragraphs of his page. GTownTrey (talk) 22:19, 20 May 2011 (UTC) My only concern was the "crazed lunatic" change. Feel free to make your concerns known on the article talk page. Acroterion (talk) 00:08, 21 May 2011 (UTC) Re "The gay cowboy movie" That was the slowest speedy deletion ever. Can you please salt that page? It's a 4chan target today. --Σ ☭★ 00:05, 22 May 2011 (UTC) Protected now. Acroterion (talk) 00:08, 22 May 2011 (UTC) Advice please Hello, Im an unclear as to why my post is a candidate for speedy deletion. It does refer to a company and website that offers a valuable and unique service for pet owners. This is significant to the millions of pet owners who, through internet forums, have expressed a desire for more information on natural, holistic veterinary medicines as well as their frustration at the lack of reliable information on the internet. Can you please explain to me why the entry is getting a tag for speedy deletion? This is my first entry and Im new to the wikipedia community so Im trying to learn the rules as quickly as i can. Is there some way I can (should) alter it so that it will be accepted. Im honestly not trying to advertise through wikipedia and that was never my intention but i do think its a very important entry. Thanks in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tennents (talk • contribs) 02:22, 22 May 2011 (UTC) I've removed your advertisement from this page and deleted the article, which was pure advertising. Wikipedia does not accept any form of advertising or promotion. You are discouraged from editing on subjects in which you have a direct interest, such as yourself or your business. See WP:SPAM and WP:COI. Acroterion (talk) 02:25, 22 May 2011 (UTC) Why did you delete a page I Made? I created a page and you deleted it. I think you have no justification at all. Please reply. --TheDataMonster (talk) 09:26, 22 May 2011 (UTC) Please read WP:WEB for notability guidelines for web content. Acroterion (talk) 15:34, 22 May 2011 (UTC) Nice work The Dam Barnstar I hereby award you this damn dam barnstar for all your great work creating and expanding several articles on dams. Good job! By the way, you are the inaugural recipient.--NortyNort (Holla) 10:18, 22 May 2011 (UTC) Thanks! I was filling in material on the Minidoka Project to support Mongo's FA work on Grand Teton National Park and it kind of grew from there. The new dam(n) barnstar looks fine, by the way. Acroterion (talk) 15:36, 22 May 2011 (UTC) Your welcome. It is amazing how one thing (or redlink) leads to another, especially in this subject area. Thanks for the compliment on the barnstar, I am no graphic artist but I tried. It was, however, yanked off of WP:BARNSTAR though. Mostly because of my inability to read the entire page though.--NortyNort (Holla) 02:58, 23 May 2011 (UTC) Skullgirls Deleted Page Hey there. The "Skullgirls" page I created was a copy/paste of the page I wrote for Giant Bomb. I didn't think that counted as copyright infringement, since I wrote it in the first place. How much will I need to edit in order to sidestep any such "plagarism" issues? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ravidrath (talk • contribs) 19:42, 22 May 2011 (UTC) In general, content may not be introduced from external websites unless the site explicitly is licensed under the same CC-by-SA copyright as Wikipedia's, or is public domain, and even then is considered bad practice. You should avoid citing your own work in any case: all material should be cited and sourced to independent third-party sources in major media, which also helps to establish WP:NOTE. Acroterion (talk) 19:47, 22 May 2011 (UTC) Black Hat PPC I tried to create a new entry for Black Hat PPC. It's a term that is used among online marketers in the UK and the article was to explain what it was about and how it came to be. Could you let me know what you didn't like about the post and I'll amend it. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BlackHatters (talk • contribs) 21:39, 22 May 2011 (UTC) You need to indicate how the term is notable according to WP:NOTE and WP:WEB by reference to independent third-party sources. If you want, I'll place the content into your userspace for you to develop and source. Acroterion (talk) 21:48, 22 May 2011 (UTC) If you could do that it would be most appreciated. Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlackHatters (talk • contribs) 09:38, 1 June 2011 (UTC) Category adds Hoover Dam is not in a NPS unit. (most of the lake is, other than that very close to the dam, but that does not include the dam). I don't think Grand Coulee is either. Are you sure you are working from a reliable list?--Wehwalt (talk) 14:25, 27 May 2011 (UTC) I was unaware that Hoover Dam itself was not within the boundaries of LMNRA: I'll remove those and leave Lake Mead and FDR Lake in the categories. I'm contemplating some form of summary article on dams and reservoirs in U.S. National Parks (including proposed schemes), focusing on parks, proper, as opposed to the well-known national recreation areas. I had my doubts about Grand Coulee in particular and was just now looking around for some substantiation - cart before horse. Acroterion (talk) 14:31, 27 May 2011 (UTC) I think it is effectively an enclave within the LMNRA. Perhaps you could massage the name of the category a bit to include dams that impound lakes which are within NPS boundaries? I am not a dam expert but NortyNort and I brought Hoover Dam up to FA for the 75th last year and I helped him out a bit with Grand Coulee, so they are still on my watchlist.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:35, 27 May 2011 (UTC) This brings up an issue of definition: Jackson Lake Dam, for instance, is solidly within Grand Teton National Park, but is owned and operated by the USBR, effectively an inholding. I'm not sure about O'Shaughnessy Dam in Yosemite - I assume the dam itself is owned by the City of San Francisco and has a property line around it. While the reservoirs are fairly easy to deal with, , I'm not entirely comfortable with excluding the dams from the "inside the park" category on the basis of property lines as opposed to geography - "in" vs. "within," I guess, which might be how the category should be worded. Any thoughts or suggestions? Acroterion (talk) 14:40, 27 May 2011 (UTC) "in or adjacent to"? Avoid arguments that way.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:46, 27 May 2011 (UTC) It's imprecise, but you're probably right; finding reliable sources, avoiding OR and avoiding arguments would seem to argue in that direction. Acroterion (talk) 14:48, 27 May 2011 (UTC) Imprecise, yes, but broad. Which will help anyone using the category.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:49, 27 May 2011 (UTC) True, categories should avoid editorializing about content. Acroterion (talk) 14:51, 27 May 2011 (UTC) Just saw my watchlist explode and saw this conversation here. For a few reasons, I would say exclude dams from the category and maybe drop "dams" from the cat's name. Many of the dams are owned and operated by separate entities although they still might be under the Department of Interior. Many I see in Category:Dams and reservoirs in U.S. National Park Service units are USBR-owned. I don't have a list of which are within NPS units and it would take awhile to do the research. Another point is with the reservoir/dam article similarity argument that sometimes appears on Wikipedia. Only with dams in the U.S. do you often see a separate reservoir article here. In general, they are closely associated and I think just reservoirs in the category can help solve a few of the questions/problems above. You can still effectively categorize something associated with the dam. If the NPS doesn't own and operate the dam then it can be deduced that the dam has its own little "free zone" I think. I am about to call it a night and can look into this more tomorrow.--NortyNort (Holla) 14:59, 27 May 2011 (UTC) I was thinking "colocated with" too but that may be misconstrued as well.--NortyNort (Holla) 15:04, 27 May 2011 (UTC) <undent>I'll pull the dams out, since the NPS owns no major dams. Apart from the technical issue of ownership, I do think some form of recognition/categorization of the issue of dams in national parks, and the symbiotic relationship between NRAs and dams/reservoirs should be addressed, somewhat complicated by the fact than not all national recreation areas are administered by the NPS. The tension between water rights and preservation is a major theme in NPS and USBR history that is understated, in my opinion, and I was trying to feel my way through it via the category, which is probably the wrong way to work through it. The word "colocated" has always given me hives as technobabble. There must be a way to figure this out, but in the meantime I'll scale back the cats. Acroterion (talk) 15:08, 27 May 2011 (UTC) I seem to remember that when I first visited Hoover Dam in 1996, they had a sign at the ticket window saying that they were not part of the recreation area and that the Golden Eagle Passport was not usable there.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:11, 27 May 2011 (UTC) I was there in 2003 and had an annual NPS pass; we would have used it had it been valid for dam tours, but I seem to recall that we had to pay, and that the visitor center and tour was a USBR operation. There was no NPS presence at the dam VC apart from perhaps a booth with a seasonal ranger. The main NPS VC is a couple of miles to the west. Acroterion (talk) 15:16, 27 May 2011 (UTC) How about a separate and sub-category "Dams associated with (for, coupled with, of) reservoirs in U.S. National Park Service units" would help address the controversy?--NortyNort (Holla) 15:26, 27 May 2011 (UTC) Could be a possibility. I was grappling too with the matter of dams/reservoirs for non-NPS NRAs, so I think I'll have to diagram out how some kind of category tree might wok on a piece of paper. I believe I'll hold off until I've had lunch and feel smarter. Acroterion (talk) 15:29, 27 May 2011 (UTC) Reverting your own edits? Hello. Why on earth did you revert all the valid edits you've recently made to all the dam articles? I don't see any reason to ruin those articles you had improved before. De728631 (talk) 15:24, 27 May 2011 (UTC) See the conversation immediately above: I wanted to remove a category and forgot that I'd made the last bazillion contributions. Acroterion (talk) 15:24, 27 May 2011 (UTC) Yes, be careful with using rollback. It's really only for fighting vandalism. The good old "undo" button does the job. I've already some of your reversions but you might still want to have a look at those articles. De728631 (talk) 15:29, 27 May 2011 (UTC) Actually, self-reverts are permissible, but can lead to problems per above. I've tidied up after myself. Acroterion (talk) 15:31, 27 May 2011 (UTC) Hi Regarding deletion of Page Roadster diner Hello you just speedily deleted the page I have created http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Roadster_diner  :) While writing the page I used the same structure used by another Lebanese restaurant chain http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Crepaway , since their page has not been deleted it seems weird that the entry which represents the other most famous lebanese diner chain is. If you want me to rewrite the page again based on some other guidelines please just let me know. Kindly let me know that you have responded to my request. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sdarine (talk • contribs) 19:57, 28 May 2011 (UTC) You wrote the article as an advertisement, not as an encyclopedia article. I'm not opposed to an article on the topic, but it must be strictly non-promotional. While the Crepaway article is tagged as being written like an advertisement, it's not nearly as promotional as the Roadster Diner article was. I would not use Crepaway as an example of a good article to emulate. Please write any new version in an appropriately non-promotional manner, please provide verifiable andreliable sources, and please review WP:COI for issues on conflict of interest. Acroterion (talk) 22:18, 28 May 2011 (UTC) Thank you, I will try again :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sdarine (talk • contribs) 11:10, 29 May 2011 (UTC) Yeay.me article/page Hello, I'd like to follow-up with you about recently added and deleted page, http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Yeay.me My goal is to create a similar page as http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Blippy. Since it is my 1st wiki contribution I'm sure I missed some steps and it was deleted. Would you please tell me what was the main reason of triggering deletion? Was it because it has too few information? Also, is it possible to delete it completely so it won't show that deletion message? Until I'll put together a better content. Thank you in advance. Oct87 (talk) 04:08, 29 May 2011 (UTC) Oct87 There was no indication that the subject was notable. Blippy has been covered in major third-party media, conferring notability. See WP:WEB for information on notability guidelines for web content. You may delete the notice on your talk page, but please read it first, as it explains why the deletion took place. Acroterion (talk) 13:03, 29 May 2011 (UTC) WTC7 talk page revert Whatever your interests in promoting falsehood are, I cannot help but not you claim to be an architect. Not a structural engineer. If you had real knowledge on the subject ((Personal attack removed)) you would ask questions that need to be asked, such as why the 9/11 commission report did not mention WTC7 at all, or why if there has never been a steel framed building collapse due to fire how did three buildings (that were engineered to prevent this from happening) fail on the same day. Might i mention again both WTC1 and 2 were DESIGNED TO TAKE THE IMPACT OF A 707, FULLY LADEN WITH FUEL. Neither of the planes that did hit the towers had full tanks of fuel, nor would the resulting inferno be hot enough to weaken the steel. There are so many discrepancies within the 'official' reports that it would be downright ignorance to not follow them up. If wikipedia is supposed to support factual information freedom, do your duty as a moderator and inquire... 222.152.191.30 (talk) 03:04, 30 May 2011 (UTC) Note: Comment refactored with {{rpa}}. --The Σ talkcontribs 03:14, 30 May 2011 (UTC) There are many forums on the Internet devoted to the Truther agenda; Wikipedia is not among them. Wikipedia is not an appropriate place to discuss conspiracy theories in general, except to the extent that these conspiracy theories are documented for their own sake. Wikipedia is not a place to right great wrongs, or to reveal information that is outside the mainstream of scholarly thought. Wikipedia does not publish original research, nor does it pursue or publish independent investigations. It is not my responsibility to pursue investigations: it is my responsibility to remove posts devoted to theorizing, as opposed to serious discussion of article improvement. I won't bother to correct the fallacious arguments you present: neither this page nor any other talkpage on Wikipedia is an appropriate forum, except to note that much of what you apparently believe has been shown to be untrue, and none of it is admissible in an encyclopedia based on mainstream sources. Resorting to personal attacks does not increase your credibility. Acroterion (talk) 04:22, 30 May 2011 (UTC) Page Deleted The page I created called "Delaney's Dog Haus" was deleted by Phantomsteve on May 31, 2011 at 03:11 for "A7: Article about a company, corporation, organization, or group which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject (CSDH))" and I fixed it and added more information as I could about the company including references and saved it and at 03:24 on 31 May 2011 you deleted the page again for "G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion", but I don't own this company nor am I involved with the company and there are many other restaurants that do the same thing as my articles did, but yet they haven't been deleted I request the page be restored. Please reply here and also on my talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MBGuyCasey (talk • contribs) 03:38, 31 May 2011 (UTC) The article was obviously promotional from beginning to end, and was entirely unsuitable as an encyclopedia article. Whether or not it is your company is beside the point: Wikipedia is not a vehicle for press releases or promotion, whatever the source. "All hamburgers are hand-made and our french fries are seasoned with our own blend of seasoning. We are the only hotdog place around that delivers!!!" "Kevin even brought along Bill from New Jersey who has years of experience in the food services industry, so come on in and say hello!" "The price of the meal is $9.99 and comes with a drink." It was advertising, apart from the fact that it appears to be a non-notable business and could be (and was) speedy-deleted as no assertion of notability. Acroterion (talk) 03:51, 31 May 2011 (UTC) Some ass-hole deleted Karl Watsons page....He is the biggest black skater in the Bay Area ....Notability verified Excuse me ....what about this posting fits criteria for speedy deletion? This Wiki that I have created is legitimate....about a notable person and I have provided references to prove his notability. Also it doesn't violate any copyrights. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackmanii88 (talk • contribs) 00:55, 2 June 2011 (UTC) Overlooking the personal attack in the section title (and in your edit summary when you posted the material), there was no credible assertion of notability. I read it all, twice, and just checked it again; all I got was that he is a prominent local skater who organizes youth events, eats wild fish, and seems like a decent guy. You need to tell us about his accomplishments as you would expect an encyclopedia article to be written. . I'm open to the possibility that Watson is notable, but the article did not explain how and reads like the obviously copied feature article it is, rather than as an encyclopedic biography. Please read WP:BIO; notability should be more than purely local and should be verifiable through multiple references in major media. There are lots of references to Watson on a Google search, but there are few in reliable Wikipedia-acceptable sources - see WP:RS - and we don't keep bios that aren't reliably sourced. I've run across this problem with snowboarders, who tend not to be covered so much by mainstream media either. I think a credible bio could be created, but sourcing will be a challenge. The material was directly lifted from a copyrighted source, which quite clearly states at the bottom of the page "Copyright (WUN) Magazine. All Rights Reserved" Please stop posting cut/paste from copyrighted sources. Please note that you also appear to have a conflict of interest and should not be writing on this subject at all, or at least with greater care. Acroterion (talk) 02:37, 2 June 2011 (UTC) DYK for Fontenelle Dam Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:17, 2 June 2011 (UTC) What the Heck? Dude, I'm trying to set up a theory of Government and then you come waltzing in with your technicalities. Back off! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theman745 (talk • contribs) 00:09, 4 June 2011 (UTC) Please redelete the page. CTJF83 00:11, 4 June 2011 (UTC) Quick Question Acroterion, I am planning to edits and create a few pages on American architects and see from your Contributions and User Page that you have considerable experience in that area, besides being an architect. Can you tell me, based on WP preference for using Prose in pages, are pages about currently living architects supposed to be written entirely in prose, or, is it accepted that they can be part prose and part bulleted building lists (i.e., lists of major buildings designed by the architect with city, country, year completed). If there is a particular WP rule that applies to using lists for Architects, I would appreciate knowing about it, because I want to be sure that I am doing this correctly. Thank you in advance for your help. Cheers!DavidSycamore (talk) 16:08, 4 June 2011 (UTC) It depends on who you ask. For my part, I would want to see a substantial section of prose, followed by a selective list of the architect's most prominent works. I think that works best for mist readers. When it's somebody really prominent or prolific, I'd go with all-prose and a separate "List of buildings designed by Architect X." That's what I did with Frank Pierce Milburn and List of buildings by Frank Pierce Milburn, for instance. The only policy I know of is at WP:Manual_of_Style#Bulleted_and_numbered_lists, but I'm sure there's other material discussing this that I'm not aware of. Acroterion (talk) 16:36, 4 June 2011 (UTC) Why Deleted? Hi, I recently started a page for a new company called ZangZing that was deleted. It's a company that was recently covered in the Wall Street Journal, Techcrunch and other places... WSJ article - http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703509104576329272101144568.html Techcrunch article - http://zan.gy/kmLSMG Thanks! Joseph — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ansanelli (talk • contribs) 20:41, 4 June 2011 (UTC) The article was deleted because it made no assertion of notability. The WSJ reference is useful, although it doesn't go into enough depth to be a very useful source, but multiple references of that kind will go a long way to establishing notability. I'd suggest that you work in a user subpage, such as User:Ansanelli/sandbox and develop the article, including a credible assertion of notability backed up by references in third-party media. See WP:WEB, WP:CORP and WP:RS for additional guidance. Acroterion (talk) 21:02, 4 June 2011 (UTC) The Bugle: Issue LXIII, May 2011 Your Military History Newsletter Project News: From the editors – Contest results, A-class medal recipients Articles: The month's featured and A-class Milhist content Editorial: Hawkeye's thoughts on the article writing process To begin or stop receiving this newsletter, please list yourself in the appropriate section here. To assist with preparing the newsletter, please visit the newsroom. BrownBot (talk) 21:58, 4 June 2011 (UTC) You may have a right to edit articles, but editing comments is censorship. You do not see this? Or do you have an agenda of your own? If you are human, you do. Nothing in my comment is objectionable on a dispassionate level because I make no claims other than that YOU among others shold look further than self-serving 'proof' which consists of nothing but opinion. Someone made a comment that Jews are smarter than to advertise such a thing. And how would they attract adherents? They were selling a rather large idea that desperately needed recruits. The need for such a position statement by the 'Elders' was absolute. They are a religion within a religion, don't you get it? They are the fanatics that EVERY religion will breed from time to time and they are as serious as any other fanatics. I do not want them to be because they ENDANGER me and those I care about. Can't you break through your political blinders and look at the world MORALLY! Belief doesn't matter. BEHAVIOR MATTERS!! Look at what these people do. The most brutal (self-acknowledged) assassins in the world. They promote war at every opportunity. They bait the Palestinians with constantly broken promises to provide food and medicine and then slaughter them when they complain about their children dying. They pump money into the US government to the point that fully half of bush's political appointments and most of his appointments to the most sensitive posts went to Israeli dual passport holders. Do you even think? Do you know what is happening here? Or are you simply a network of kneejerks, smug that you know everything? Do not CENSOR my comments here. Here they are very small potatoes. If you would like to carry this to the highest levels of Wikipedia, that will only favor my aim to provide balance here. All Jews have been coopted into the insanity of zionism, just as Americans in general. We don't want to be nor do we want to be censored by Irgun America which I suspect to be your agenda.