User:Word Webs
Hi there! Here is my first idea for a page, though I think it's going to get shut down because it has no published reference!
Maybetheism is the belief that there may or may not be a Deity or God
If you define theist- A belief in at least a God.
atheist-A belief that there is no God.
Now, we usually associate some one who has not decided between the two an "Agnostic" agnosticism. However- if you look at the actual breakdown of the meaning of the word- it is-
α- a-, without + γνώσις gnōsis, knowledge;
If there is the knowledge that there maybe a God or deity- someone tells you such, or you see a church and ask someone about it- you instantly have knowledge that there is a claim there is a God. So- you are not without knowledge. You maybe without knowledge of what God is, or why people talk about God, or what evidence they have for or against it's existance- but you are no longer agnostic in terms of theism or atheism- you have become a Maybetheist . . . This term is mentioned several times by people- you will see this if you do a web search on it- so it is waiting to be adopted!
Second draft . . .
Maybetheism is the belief that there may or may not be a Deity or God
If you define theist- A belief in at least a God.
atheist-A belief that there is no God.
Now, we usually associate some one who has not decided between the two an "Agnostic" agnosticism. However- if you look at the actual breakdown of the meaning of the word- it is-
α- a-, without + γνώσις gnōsis, knowledge;
If there is the knowledge that there maybe a God or deity- forinstance:- if someone talks about the concept of God, or you see a church and ask someone about it- you instantly have knowledge that there is a claim there is a God. So- you are not without knowledge. You maybe without knowledge of what God is, or why people talk about God, or what evidence they have for or against it's existance- but you are no longer agnostic in terms of theism or atheism- you have become a maybetheist a maybe(perhaps)-theist(Belief in a dIety/God) This term is mentioned by people on internet forums
Here is the discussion that has shown me this will not work for now . . .
I see that this is not a frequently used term. However there is a problem with the definition of agnositicism:- see this video. This has been part of the discussions I have been involved in on myspace - maybetheism is a valid, sensiable term that makes a good contribution to language and culture as it is a proper definition that does not contain any contradiction.
- Just take my word for it that Wikipedia doesn't allow articles like this. If you read Wikipedia:Original research or Wikipedia:Notability, you should be able to see why this isn't OK.Prezbo (talk) 01:01, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Ok I must have missed the origional research bit of the delete thing; I understand if it is because of that. I hope you can see that this a logical thing to have tried to do however! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Word Webs (talk • contribs) 01:05, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
On the noteability part though- I am not the first person to use this term:-[1] there are at least two others! How many search results qualifies a term for inclusion? Word Webs (talk) 01:29, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Also Prezbo- are you an administrator? why did Wiki not cite Origional research as part of the deletion? Is it because there are some search results?Word Webs (talk) 01:32, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
I am going to remove the remove box because there is some web content- even if it is in forums- It is a word that sums up a loop hole in language, and I see no reason why it should not have a Wiki definition. Word Webs (talk) 02:46, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- It's not a question of search results but of reliable sources. Also wikipedia is is not a dictionary. No I'm not an administrator.Prezbo (talk) 07:04, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
I do not need any more relable sources than wikipedia to show that this is a valid, understandable concept, and much more than a dictionairy definition. It is a combination of two very well used and understood words in the English language:- that makes complete sense and has been used to avoid the confusion that is obviously from the discussions on the internet I have witnessed. I have posted links that prove this. I will edit the page and make more links to. sources within wiki. Word Webs (talk) 09:22, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- Hey Word Webs, unless you can show us uses of this term in books, newspapers, etc., it has no chance here.--Milowent (talk) 20:30, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
O.K guys- I'm sorry I didn't catch the published bit, that was stupid of me. - I guess this does make the page invalid until it is published somewhere. I was wondering, I know this isn't your job or anything, but do you have any good suggestions for a wiki spin off that this would be good to redirect it to? If not no worries, I think it will live on my page until such a time as it will be valid, if ever. Word Webs (talk) 00:16, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- "Redirect" is a defined term round here. I assume you are asking for places to which you might copy your article. Try one of these alternative outlets. Or perhaps you would prefer one of these. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 05:32, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Many thanks, I will look into these. Much appreciated!!!Word Webs (talk) 18:33, 7 November 2009 (UTC)