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Thoughts on Notability

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This section is to discuss and outline the notability of this subject. This living person is a Musician and therefore is within the WP:NMUSIC notability guidelines. Additionally, this person works outside of mass-media traditions and may be considered for WP:NMUSICOTHER notability guidelines. Additionally this person is a composer and may be considered for WP:COMPOSER notability guidelines. I'll edit and add to this section as I research this subject and work on the page. Feel free to help out here as well. TheMusicExperimental (talk) 03:04, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Satisfying any one of the following establishes notability via WP:NMUSIC:

1. Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble who created it.

2. Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart.

3. Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country.

4. Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country.

5. Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable).

6. Is an ensemble that contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles.[note 5] This should be adapted appropriately for musical genre; for example, having performed two lead roles at major opera houses. Note that this criterion needs to be interpreted with caution, as there have been instances where this criterion was cited in a circular manner to create a self-fulfilling notability loop (e.g. musicians who were "notable" only for having been in two bands, of which one or both were "notable" only because those musicians had been in them.)

7. Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability.

8. Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award.

9. Has won first, second or third place in a major music competition.

10. Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc. (But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that article. Read the policy and notability guideline on subjects notable only for one event, for further clarifications).

11. Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network.

12. Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or television network.


Satisfying any one of the following establishes notability via WP:NMUSICOTHER:

1. Is frequently covered in publications devoted to a notable music sub-culture.

2. Has composed a number of notable melodies, tunes or standards used in a notable music genre.

3. Is cited in reliable sources as being influential in style, technique, repertory or teaching for a particular music genre.

4. Is cited by reliable sources as having established a tradition or school in a particular music genre.

5. Has been listed as a significant musical influence on musicians or composers who meet the above criteria.


Satisfying any one of the following establishes notability via WP:COMPOSER: 1. Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition.

2. Has written musical theatre of some sort (includes musicals, operas, etc.) that was performed in a notable theatre that had a reasonable run, as such things are judged in their particular situation, context, and time.

3. Has had a work used as the basis for a later composition by a songwriter, composer or lyricist who meets the above criteria.

4. Has written a composition that has won (or in some cases been given a second or other place) in a major music competition not established expressly for newcomers.

5. Has been listed as a major influence or teacher of a composer, songwriter or lyricist that meets the above criteria.

6. Appears at reasonable length in standard reference books on his or her genre of music.