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Week 8 Notes from sources
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Shows two types of vases made during the Classic/post classic period. They were made from different types of materials, one being volcanic ash and the other being more calcite based. Most of the land around the mayans was limestone, which is where calcite comes from. These were mainly made as gifts and given to make local alliances, and these vessels are found in a more localized area. On the other hand the ceramics that were made out of a volcanic ash based clay are found widespread, and are thought to have been traded by the upper class to show wealth and encourage greater alliances.[1]
Source 2:
might not be a great source mainly talks about from now only back to 1965 ish
Source 3:
This source talks about how the maya elite used ceramics not only to give gifts when foreign dignitaries were in town, buts its the ceramics they used during the feasts during the classic period. Not anyone could make this pottery, it was very important they knew about the maya history, mythology and more. On these ceramics intricate scenes where depicted which showed a peek into the palace life of the elite. On each ceramic piece near the rim, its contents would be listed out, a type of beverage for a vase or food for a plate, then who is belonged to was written next.
Chemical dating is used to figure out when a piece was made and where. Since these ceramics were traded and gifted, many end up in differing environments. Specialists mainly pay attention to the writing, drawings, and heiroglyphs, since they were different for the different people and cultures they were made from. [2] Smp5gd (talk) 05:10, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
http://um9mh3ku7s.search.serialssolutions.com/?ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&ctx_enc=info%3Aofi%2Fenc%3AUTF-8&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fsummon.serialssolutions.com&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.atitle=A+Maya+ceramics+tradition+survives+in+the+Yucatan&rft.jtitle=Ceramics+Monthly&rft.au=Ventura%2C+Carol&rft.date=2003-12-01&rft.issn=0009-0328&rft.eissn=1930-8930&rft.volume=51&rft.issue=10&rft.spage=64&rft.epage=65¶mdict=en-US Talks about when and how ceramics came about in the mayan world and how modern day ceramics have been passed down and modified from the colonial period. I think we could use this as well Smp5gd (talk) 16:41, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
Week 7 Maya Ceramics
[edit]I will be working with Kayla Smith in her sandbox User:Kjs273/sandbox
My article is Maya ceramics, and I plan to help Kayla Smith edit it. I have been looking at a few books on maya ceramics and most of them seem to have a lot of research involved about the different types of ceramics and how they compared to the groups of people who used or traded them. A lot of the sources talk about how ceramics relates to the social structure throughout the mayan history even to this day. ~~~~
I chose this article because it is part of the Latin American culture, and the article is missing a lot of information, but still has some good substantive paragraphs that would be easily added to and improved. As I stated above I want to add how the ceramics related to society. A lot of sources I have been reading (see below) talk about how different regions had different raw materials, and how certain ceramics made of certain materials are signs of the elite use due to extensive trade. ~~~~
BIBILIOGRAPHY:
My sources are mainly from the MST library and are listed below
http://um9mh3ku7s.search.serialssolutions.com.libproxy.mst.edu/?ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&ctx_enc=info%3Aofi%2Fenc%3AUTF-8&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fsummon.serialssolutions.com&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.atitle=The+production+and+exchange+of+moulded-carved+ceramics+and+the+%27Maya+Collapse%27&rft.jtitle=JOURNAL+OF+ARCHAEOLOGICAL+SCIENCE&rft.au=Ting%2C+C&rft.au=Martinon-Torres%2C+M&rft.au=Graham%2C+E&rft.au=Helmke%2C+C&rft.date=2015-10-01&rft.pub=ACADEMIC+PRESS+LTD-+ELSEVIER+SCIENCE+LTD&rft.issn=0305-4403&rft.eissn=1095-9238&rft.volume=62&rft.spage=15&rft.epage=26&rft_id=info:doi/10.1016%2Fj.jas.2015.06.013&rft.externalDBID=n%2Fa&rft.externalDocID=000361403900002¶mdict=en-US[1]
talks about different types of pottery made with different material relate to local elite or very powerful elite.
https://ebookcentral-proquest-com.libproxy.mst.edu/lib/umr-ebooks/reader.action?docID=3039697&ppg=34[3]
http://um9mh3ku7s.search.serialssolutions.com.libproxy.mst.edu/?ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&ctx_enc=info%3Aofi%2Fenc%3AUTF-8&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fsummon.serialssolutions.com&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.atitle=What+can+we+learn+from+a+Maya+vase%3F&rft.jtitle=Archaeology&rft.au=Reents-Budet%2C+Dorie&rft.au=Bishop%2C+Ronald&rft.date=2003&rft.issn=0003-8113&rft.eissn=1943-5746&rft.volume=56&rft.issue=2&rft.externalDBID=n%2Fa&rft.externalDocID=358789379¶mdict=en-US[2]
Talks about what is on a maya vase
http://um9mh3ku7s.search.serialssolutions.com/?ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&ctx_enc=info%3Aofi%2Fenc%3AUTF-8&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fsummon.serialssolutions.com&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.title=Ancient+Maya+Pottery&rft.date=2013-01-20&rft.pub=University+Press+of+Florida&rft.isbn=9780813042367&rft_id=info:doi/10.5744%2Fflorida%2F9780813042367.001.0001&rft.externalDocID=upso_9780813042367¶mdict=en-US[4]
Talks about how vases are different through each region and who normally made them and out of what
Olmec changes
[edit]The wide diffusion of Olmec artifacts and "Olmecoid" iconography throughout much of Mesoamerica indicates the existence of extensive long-distance trade networks. Exotic, prestigious and high-value materials such as greenstone and marine shell were moved in significant quantities across large distances. Some other reasons for trade revolved around the lack of obsidWhile the Olmec were not the first in Mesoamerica to organize long-distance exchanges of goods, the Olmec period saw a significant expansion in interregional trade routes, more variety in material goods exchanged and a greater diversity in the sources from which the base materials were obtained.
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Arcticle Evaluation: Aztec Calendar
[edit]- Is everything in the article relevant to the article topic? Is there anything that distracted you?
- For the most part everyting is relevant to the article, it mainly explains how the aztec calendar works and what each type of year is made up of. One thing that distracted me was when they explained why they used trecena as thirteen and just gave a small spanish lesson. Even though that is used now the article is about the aztec calendar, which was made before they had contact with spain.
- Is the article neutral? Are there any claims, or frames, that appear heavily biased toward a particular position?
- This article seemed very fact driven, in fact I didn't even see any opinions on what the Aztecs are believed to used the symbols on the calendar for. I believe that shoudl be added and if given without bias and shown research would very much apply to this article.
- Are there viewpoints that are overrepresented, or underrepresented?
- None are overrepresented, but as mentioned before it would be nice to know how they interpreted their calendar and not just the basics on how they broke down their different types of years.
- Check a few citations. Do the links work? Does the source support the claims in the article?
- I clicked on two random ones and one worked and went to the site, while the other one said "This page does not seem to exist". For the one that did work, I am not sure since it was in Spanish. So maybe this article could use some citation updating.
- Is each fact referenced with an appropriate, reliable reference? Where does the information come from? Are these neutral sources? If biased, is that bias noted?
- Most of the material doesnt have a number by it that links it to an actual reference, but one does. (Reference in spanish). The link could be biased because it talks about how a proffessor showed what the first day of the calendar really meant, and if it was written by him then it could be bias.
- Is any information out of date? Is anything missing that could be added?
- Nothing seems out of date, but I think how the aztecs used and interpreted thier calendar and what certain symbols could represent could be added to the article to make it come full swing.
- Check out the Talk page of the article. What kinds of conversations, if any, are going on behind the scenes about how to represent this topic?
- There is actually a lot of talk asking for certain facts to be backed up and wondering where are the refrences at. Which is a good sign. There is a lot of talk about how many of the facts have not been confirmed and are contradicted by many sources others have read.
- How is the article rated? Is it a part of any WikiProjects?
- This article is rated class C. It is apart of Mesoamerica/aztec, Mexico, and time.
- How does the way Wikipedia discusses this topic differ from the way we've talked about it in class?
- The whole article mainly only goes over how the calendar is set up and not so much how they interpreted it.
- ^ a b Ting, Carmen (2015). The production and exchange of moulded-carved ceramics and the ‘Maya Collapse. Mo S&T Library: Journal of Archaeological Science.
- ^ a b Reents-Budet, Dorie (2003). What Can We Learn from a Maya Vase?. Archaeological Institute of America.
- ^ Arnold, Dean E. (2008). Social Change and the Evolution of Ceramic Production and Distribution in a Maya Community. Mo S&T Library: University Press of Colorado.
- ^ Aimers, James John (2012). Ancient Maya Pottery : Classification, Analysis, and Interpretation. Mo S&T Library: University Press of Florida.