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One major problem with Susan's page that I noticed right away is her info box. There's hardly any quick facts about her and there is no picture of her. That should be something that we fix right away. One of her major works is cited here: Carey, Susan E. 2004. Bootstrapping & the origin of concepts. Daedalus 133(1): 59-68.

This citation is to a webpage for Harvard that lists her vitae and other very important facts about her: Susan Carey. (n.d.). Retrieved September 26, 2016, from https://software.rc.fas.harvard.edu/lds/research/carey/susan-carey/. Two questions I have-- the first: since we are writing a page about a person, are we able to use reliable webpages other than just journal articles? Most articles are about research topics, not people. My second question: how in depth should we go when talking about her important research?

• You can cite a web page and put in a link, but real articles are better. If a person is not alive, look for obituaries. Or look for articles about awards or recognition she's received. See Ashley's post below. J.R. Council (talk) 15:21, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Savannah.m.voeltz (talk) 20:26, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

One thing I find wrong with the article on Susan Carey is that the page does not have anything that talk about her works or past experiments. We could look at her contributions to psychology as well as how it influenced the psychological world. Here is an article I found about Susan Carey another reference is which is a book about child development she wrote. My two questions are: If we have books that Susan Carey has published, do we have to read the whole book to use it?

• No, you don't need to read the whole book. J.R. Council (talk) 15:21, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

What is the primary thing you want us to talk about on her wiki? As in do we write in depth about each and every book and publication she has written? Or do we just put each publication she did and do a summary, or just write the publication?

• See the brochure on Editing Wikipedia psychology articles about writing about a psychologist. You can briefly describe major publications and list the rest. J.R. Council (talk) 15:21, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Ashley.miller.2 (talk) 22:45, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

The problem I have with this page is it does not actually show the many accomplishments Susan Carey made. I feel like it does not explain anything and does not help people learn about her. How many sections do we need in the article or is there not a minimum or maximum? Do we have to add certain background information about her or can we base it off what we feel is necessary?

• There is no minimum or maximum. Just try to give a complete and balanced presentation of the relevant information. J.R. Council (talk) 15:21, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Shelby.kappes (talk) 18:43, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

TO-DO LIST

    -Savannah: find pictures? gather information to improve the introduction paragraph 
    -Shelby: history and bio Shelby.kappes (talk) 19:58, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
    -use the book from Dr. Council to find more about her early life 
    -Ashley: write about publications
    -find signature 
    -find more publications and what they accomplished

Ashley.miller.2 (talk) 00:45, 14 October 2016 (UTC) Savannah.m.voeltz (talk) 20:00, 1 November 2016 (UTC) Shelby.kappes (talk) 17:16, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

OUTLINE

   -Introduction 
   -Biography 
   -born
      - 1942Savannah.m.voeltz (talk) 20:01, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
   -early life Shelby.kappes (talk) 20:00, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
      - Wall street journal 
      - 'fast mapping"
      - Conceptual Change in Childhood
      - The Origin of Concepts 
   -early schooling Shelby.kappes (talk) 20:00, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
      - Radcliffe College
          -language and language development
   -career and love life
   -kids
    -Works 
   -education Shelby.kappes (talk) 20:00, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
       -Radcliffe College 
       -Harvard University
           -Elizabeth Spelke
   -honors and fellowshipsSavannah.m.voeltz (talk) 20:01, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
        -William James Fellow Award
        -Rumelhart Prize
        -Guggenheim Fellowship for Social Sciences
        -Jean Nicod Prize
        -Cognitive Development Society Book Award 2011
        -Eleanor Maccoby Award for the Best Book in Developmental Psychology (APA) 2010
        -Distinguished Scientific Contribution Award, American Psychological Association, 2009
        -Ottawa Township High School Hall of Fame, 2009
        -David E. Rumelhart Prize, 2008
        -The British Academy, Corresponding Fellow, 2007
        -American Philosophical Society, 2007
        -National Academy of Sciences, 2002
        -William James Fellow, American Psychology Society, 2002
        -American Academy of Arts and Sciences, 2001
        -Society for Experimental Psychology, 1999
        -National Academy of Education, 1999
        -Guggenheim Fellowship, 1999-2000
        -George A. Miller Lecturer,1998.
        -Society of Cognitive Neuroscience
        -Nicod Prize, Paris, 1998
        -Cattell Fellowship, 1995-1996
        -Fellow: Institute for Advanced Studies in the Behavioral Sciences, 1984-1985
        -Sloane Fellow, University of California, Berkeley, 1980-1981
        -Radcliffe Institute Fellowship, 1976-1978
   -professional experience 
        -MIT
        -NYU
        -Harvard
   -papers and journals Shelby.kappes (talk) 20:00, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
      - Editorial Boards
         -Psychological Review
         -Psychological Science
         -Journal of Language Acquisition
         -Developmental Psychology
   -books and monographs
   -book chapters

Lead Section Final

Susan Carey is an American psychologist (born 1942). She is most renowned for her work in developmental psychology. Her research focuses on analyzing philosophical concepts, and conceptual changes in science over time. She has conducted experiments on infants, toddlers, adults, and non-human primates.

• Much of the material in the section I've italicized does not belong in the lead. The lead should be much more concise that what you've got here. Move most of this to relevant sections on education, career, and awards.J.R. Council (talk) 19:29, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Biography

Susan Carey was born in 1942. Her parents were William and Mary. Later, her father remarried to a woman named Joan who currently lives in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Her studies focus on the development of children and adults and the cultural construction of concepts over time.

Carey first received her BA from Radcliff College in 1964, then later went on to receive her PhD in Experimental psychology from Harvard University in 1971. She was a professor at MIT from 1973-1996 in the Psychology Department of Brain and Cognitive development. Then she moved to NYU to teach from 1996-2001. In 2001 Carey returned to her alma mater, Harvard University. Also, Harvard, Carey met her husband Ned Block who was also a huge influence on Carey's life.

On returning to Harvard, Carey began working along side Elizabeth Spelke, where they started a Developmental Studies lab. Carey also studied alongside George Miller, Jerome Butler, and Roger Brown. Carey is a member of the American Philosophical Society, National Academy of Sciences, the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, the National Academy of Educational Sciences of Ukraine, and the British Academy. Her research analyzes philosophical concepts, and conceptual changes in science over time. She conducted experiments on infants, toddlers, adults, and non-human primates. Carey coined the term, "Quinian bootstrapping" which is a bootstrapping process that historians and philosophers looked at on conceptual change. Ashley.miller.2 (talk) 01:43, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Career

When Susan Carey began her career she served on a few Editorial Boards. Some of the boards she was on were for the Psychological Review, Psychological Science, Journal of Acquisition, and Development Psychology. Susan Carey and Elsa Bartlett were at Harvard University when they created the term "Fast mapping" in 1978. This term refers to the hypothesized mental process where a new concept is learned only based on a single exposure. Susan Carey wrote a book during her career as a psychologist which was called Conceptual Change in Childhood. This book was about the cognitive differences between children and adults. It is a case study about children's acquisition of biological knowledge and analyzes the ways the knowledge is restructured during the development. Susan Carey wrote another book called "the Origin of Concepts" which shows the basis of development of cognitive science.

In her professional experience she started out as an assistant professor at MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology) between 1972 and 1977. She then went to an associate professor at MIT in 1977 to 1984. Instead of being in the psychology department in 1984 she became a professor in the MIT's department of brain and cognitive sciences until 1996. She was a professor at NYU (New York University) for the department of psychology from 1996 to 2001, after her career at NYU she had moved to Harvard and now she is still a professor there.

Shelby.kappes (talk) 18:43, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Awards

Susan Carey has received many fellowships and honors. These fellowships and honors include: Radcliff Institute Fellowship (1976-1978), Sloane Fellow (1980-1981), Fellow: Institute for Advanced Studies in the Behavioral Sciences (1984-1985), Cattell Fellowship (1995-1996), Nicod Prize (1998), Society of Cognitive Neuroscience, George A Miller Lecturer (1998), Guggenheim Fellowship (1999-2000), National Academy of Education (1999), Society for Experimental Psychology (1999), American Academy of Arts and Sciences (2001), William James Fellow, American Psychology Society (2002), The British Academy, Corresponding Fellow (2007), David E. Rumelhart Prize (2008), Ottawa Township High School Hall of Fame (2009), Distinguished Scientific Contribution Award, American Psychological Association (2009), Eleanor Maccoby Award for the Best Book in Development Psychology (APA, 2010), and Cognitive Development Society Book Award (2001) Ashley.miller.2 (talk) 01:36, 22 November 2016 (UTC) Ashley.miller.2 (talk) 01:37, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Works

Papers written as sole author

• 2015 [1]The science of cognitive science
• 2014 [2]On Learning New Primitives in the Language of Thought: Reply to Rey
• 2011 [3]Concept Innateness, Concept Continuity, and Bootstrapping: A Response to Commentaries on The Origin of Concepts
• 2011 [4]The Origin of Concepts
• 2010 [5]Beyond Fast Mapping
• 2009 [6]Where our number concepts come from
• 2009 [7]Math schemata and the origins of number representations
• 2004 [8]Bootstrapping and the origins of concepts
• 2002 [9]Evidence for numerical abilities in young infants: A fatal flaw?
• 2001 [10]Evolutionary and Ontogenetic Foundations of Arithmetic
• 2000 [11]Science education as conceptual change
• 2000 [12]The origin of concepts
• 1998 [13]Knowledge of number: Its evolution and ontogenesis
• 1997 [14]Do constraints on word meaning reflect prelinguistic cognitive architecture?
• 1994 [15]Does learning a language require conceptual change?
• 1992 [16]Becoming a face expert
• 1988 [17]Conceptual differences between children and adults
• 1986 [18]Cognitive science and science education

Savannah.m.voeltz (talk) 03:36, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

References

Ashley.miller.2 (talk) 00:45, 14 October 2016 (UTC) Savannah.m.voeltz (talk) 01:05, 14 October 2016 (UTC) NEW REFERENCES Ashley.miller.2 (talk) 01:36, 22 November 2016 (UTC) Ashley.miller.2 (talk) 01:37, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Dr. Council's comments on your main article

Overall, you've done a nice job on this, but it's much too long. You need to balance the article relative to the subject's notability. This article could be cut by 1/4 to 1/2 and be much improved as a result. I will not suggest specific cuts, but recommend that you focus on her most important accomplishments. Some specific comments follow. I am sending the link to Ian for his comments.

1. The lead section is much to long and contains information not relevant to the lead. I have italicized this material in the lead and suggested where to put it.

J.R. Council (talk) 19:46, 2 December 2016 (UTC)