User:Rosguill/The4lines NPPSCHOOL
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Make sure you read through Wikipedia:Notability as that's the knowledge which most of the questions I ask you and tasks you do will revolve around.
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Notability
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PART 1 Questions[edit]
In your own words, how is notability defined on Wikipedia?
Would step by step instructions on how to "Change a car tire" be considered a notable topic in Wikipedia? Why or why not?
What are the differences between the WP:GNG and the subject-specific notability guidelines? How do we determine which one to use when patrolling an article?
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Subject-specific notability guidelines[edit]1. Please categorize the subject-specific notability guidelines (listed at WP:SNG) into the following three categories
Rosguill Done. Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 01:55, 12 May 2020 (UTC) The4lines, excellent work. Now, having studied the SNGs in greater detail, please answer the following question. signed, Rosguill talk 02:42, 12 May 2020 (UTC) 2. Virtually all SNGs that provide additional notability criteria specify that these criteria may indicate that the subject meets notability guidelines. How would you interpret this caveat as a new page reviewer?
Rosguill Done, Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 02:47, 12 May 2020 (UTC) Scenarios[edit]For scenarios 1-6 review just based on "subject notability guidelines" (SNG) "alone" for sake of the exercise. Do not consider any sources or other policies. Please answer if the subject meets the SNG guidelines based on the given content below, and specify which notability criteria they meet or fail.
An editor creates an article about "2024 Summer Olympics" in 2020 without providing any sources, is the subject considered not notable and why?
A New York city based 2020 start up software company , specializing in data mining, has just received a USD 200K investor fund.
Movsar Evloev who is a Ultimate Fighting Championships fighters with the undefeated mixed martial arts record of 12-0.
An upcoming action drama title "Suleiman the Great" based on the the life of Suleiman the Magnificent, was reported will be in production in December 2019 and to be released on August 2020 in the cinemas.
A political candidates, without any previous or current political position, who is running for November 2020 election for a Senator position in United States with multiple local newspapers coverage of his candidacy.
A singer who self produced his first album in May 2019 and his songs are listed in Spotify.
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Background for trainees[edit]
Exercises[edit]
Rosguill Done, and for the follow up question that makes sense. Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 18:30, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
Rosguill Done, Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 19:08, 13 May 2020 (UTC) Source assessment practice[edit]
![]() Frank Lloyd Wright (June 8, 1867 – April 9, 1959) was an American architect, interior designer, writer, and educator. Wright believed in designing structures that were in harmony with humanity and its environment, a philosophy he called organic architecture. His creative period spanned more than 70 years. He works includes The Guggenheim, swirling, snail-shaped museum in the middle of Manhattan.[1][2] Fallingwater, which has been called "the best all-time work of American architecture."[3] This is one of Wright's most famous private residences (completed 1937), was built for Mr. and Mrs. Edgar J. Kaufmann, Sr., at Mill Run, Pennsylvania. Constructed over a 30-foot waterfall, it was designed according to Wright's desire to place the occupants close to the natural surroundings. The house was intended to be more of a family getaway, rather than a live-in home.[4]
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![]() Jordan Lennon (born February 22, 2000), is a British film producer and actor. [1] Lennon is currently a member of BAFTA.[2] He continues to work aside 20th Century Fox, Warner Bros, Wicked Wales, Capture Studios, Cineworld, Paramount Pictures, and Rockefeller Foundation.[3] At age 16, the Vice President of 20th Century Fox, Paul Higginson. Who previously worked on Star Wars, Titanic, and Independence Day took on Jordan and Rowan Snow as a mentor.[4] In December 2018, Jordan and Rowan finished British Film Academy.[5] Jordan lived in Skelmersdale for 10 years before moving to Rhyl, North Wales. He's currently writing 'Stranger in the Night' scrreenplay for Warner Brothers.
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![]() Sonny William Williams (born 3 August 1985), who is a Muslim[1], is a New Zealand All blacks rugby union footballer,[2] Williams was a Marist Saints junior when he was spotted playing in Auckland by Bulldogs talent scout John Ackland.[3] In 2002 he was offered a contract and moved to Sydney (as the youngest player to ever sign with an NRL club) to play in the Bulldogs' junior grades.[4]
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Rosguill Done, Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 18:02, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
![]() David Howell Petraeus AO (/pɪˈtreɪ.əs/; born November 7, 1952) is a retired United States Army general and public official. He served as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency from September 6, 2011,[1] until his resignation on November 9, 2012[2] after his affair with Paula Broadwell was reported.[3] Petraeus was born in Cornwall-on-Hudson, New York, the son of Sixtus Petraeus (1915–2008),[4] a sea captain from Franeker, Netherlands.[5]
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![]() Martina Hingis is a Swiss former professional tennis player.[1] She won five Grand Slam singles titles.[2] Hingis was one of the highest-paid female athletes in 2000.[3] She retired in November 2007 after being hampered by a hip injury for several months and testing positive for a metabolite of cocaine during that year's Wimbledon Championships,[4] which led to a two-year suspension from the sport.[5]
signed, Rosguill talk 17:40, 15 May 2020 (UTC) References
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Additional questions[edit]
Now that we've covered sources, can you apply your knowledge of GNG and SNGs? For each of the above subjects assessed in the previous section, please identify whether they meet notability guidelines (and how/why), based solely on the sources included on this page (i.e. don't go looking for more sources)
Please explain in your own words why claims need to be verified? Because clams can be made up easily, and if we put those clams without verifying them, we would be putting false info on the wiki.
Could we cite Wikipedia as a source? and why? No under Wikipedia:Reliable sources we generally Don’t site wikipedia as a source.
Give an example of a source that is reliable but not independent of a subject, and explain why. https://www.pbs.org/ Because they are reliable but they conduct their own interviews, etc.
Give an example of a source that is independent source but not reliable and explain why. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7505117/2019-Rugby-World-Cup-Sonny-Bill-Williams-expecting-fourth-child.html As explained in sonny Williams.
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Content Policy
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Hannibal Barca was a Carthaginian general and statesman who is widely considered one of the greatest military commanders in history. His father, Hamilcar Barca, was a leading Carthaginian commander during the First Punic War (264–241 BC).[1][2][3] References
Answer: We would change it to Hannibal, Becuase that’s how most sources address him like. Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 15:20, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Earvin "Magic" Johnson Jr. (born August 14, 1959) is an American retired professional basketball player and former president of basketball operations of the Los Angeles Lakers of the National Basketball Association (NBA). He played point guard for the Lakers for 13 seasons.[1][2][3][4] References
Rosguill Done, Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 15:21, 21 May 2020 (UTC) Biographies of living persons[edit]
Conor Anthony McGregor (born 14 July 1988) is an Irish professional mixed martial artist and boxer. His is a former Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) featherweight and lightweight champion.[1] On 15 August 2019, TMZ Sports published a video that appeared to show McGregor punching a man at The Marble Arch Pub in Dublin.[2] The incident happened on 6 April and was originally reported by Irish media, although without the video that showed the attack. Irish police stated in April that they had opened an investigation.[3] McGregor was charged with assault and first appeared in court on 11 October 2019.[4][5][6] In April 2019, McGregor is the father of Terri Murray's son, Clodagh. Murray bedded McGregor in 2017 at his hotel after the Aintree Grand National just four weeks bofore McGregor's girlfriend Dee Devlin gave birth to their son. References
Diana Nyad (née Sneed; born August 22, 1949) is an American author, journalist, motivational speaker, and long-distance swimmer who lives in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW in Washington, D.C. and could be contacted at +0-202-456-6213.[1] Nyad gained national attention in 1975 when she swam around Manhattan (28 mi or 45 km) and in 1979 when she swam from North Bimini, The Bahamas, to Juno Beach, Florida (102 mi (164 km)). In 2013, on her fifth attempt and at age 64, she became the first person confirmed to swim from Cuba to Florida without the aid of a shark cage, swimming from Havana to Key West (110 mi or 180 km).[2] References
Rosguill Done, Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 17:56, 21 May 2020 (UTC) Images copyright[edit]
Answer- Explanation: Yes it is becuase it is from the U.S Gov. so it is not eligible for copyright.
Answer- Explanation: It is in the pubic domain.
Answer- Explanation: We would check the original site. Even though it is on commons.
Answer- Explanation: Probably a non free image. We would check the site.
Self taken ones? I’m not sure Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 19:44, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Rosguill Done, Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 19:45, 21 May 2020 (UTC) Rosguill Fixed, Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 23:06, 21 May 2020 (UTC) Neutral point of view[edit]Please read WP:NPOV and MOS:PUFF. Point out the WP:NPOV words/pharses and rewrite the paragraph in Questions 9& 10 from a neutral point of view.
Answer: She is a boxer who turned Pro at the age of 19 after winning one flight on December 14, 2013. The fight lasted only 20 seconds. Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 23:33, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Answer: He is a Bulgarian actor. He was born in Veliko Tarnovo and started working in the film industry since he was of the age of 14, and he has featured in 44 films. Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 23:33, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Answer: Because people views may differ, so we have to show both side, so both are can be represented. So all mainstream view are presented in the article. Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 23:33, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Rosguill Done, Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 23:33, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Extra neutrality practice[edit]For the following paragraphs, identify if they need any edits for neutrality, and if so, draft a corrected version of the paragraph. 1. Goessling is member of the Cancer Genetics Program and the Gastrointestinal Malignancies Program, both at the Dana-Farber/Harvard Cancer Center.[1] He is also advisory dean of the Irving M. London Society for HST students.[2] He has been hailed for his accessbility, compassion and knowledge and his remarkable patient care, even while he has had to fight against his own aggressive malignancy.[3][4] Note: Unless you have a subscription to Süddeutsche Zeitung, you're not going to be able to read the entirety of source #4 (and you'll likely need to use Google Translate either way). Translate what you can, and make an educated guess as to whether it justifies the provided content.
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2. Nathaniel Coleman (born January 1, 1997) is an American sport climber. He became the first American male climber to qualify to compete in the Olympic Games after advancing to the final at IFSC Combined Qualifier Toulouse 2019 in November–December, 2019.[1] Coleman won three straight USA Climbing Bouldering Open National Championships, from 2016 to 2018, and finished 2nd in the 2019 competition. He also finished second in the 2019 Combined Invitational.[2] References
3. The Disque Foundation is a 501(c)(3) Nonprofit[1] created by Dr. Karl "Fritz" Disque in 2012 in response to a medical mission trip to Hati during the 2010 earthquake[2]. The goal of the Disque Foundation is to further advance the quality of education and health care to under served communities both domestic and abroad. Through mission work and free online courses[3], the Disque Foundation has empowered over 1,000,000 people[4] around the world with life saving skills.
Rosguill Done, Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 15:33, 22 May 2020 (UTC) References
No original research[edit]
Answer: Because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and encyclopedias are based on reliable and independent secondary sources. If we included original research that is not cited, then Wikipedia would have information that is not cited by reliable sources.
Answer: Constitution of the United States It is ok to put phrases from the constitution in the article. This is because this is in the public domain.
Answer:Shady Alsuleiman stated that "Islam demands Islam commands us with our with regards of our clothing for both men and women, our clothing must be first of all baggy, so must be loose with a men or women. It must non see-through whether men or women. It must non colorful attractive that means when someone walks everyone's looking at them."
Additional practice[edit]For each of the following, state whether the prompt is an example of original research, as well as your reasoning 1. An editor writes a new article about an album. The entirety of the "Reception" section is just "According to Pitchfork" followed by a direct quote from a review in Pitchfork.
2. Source A in an article about Green Wugs states that 70% of green wugs have a checkerboard pattern in their feathers. Source B states that green wugs with checkerboard patterns have a high incidence of sickle cell anemia. An editor writes in the article
3. Source A in an article about Green Wugs states that 70% of green wugs have a checkerboard pattern in their feathers. Source B states that all green wugs with checkerboard patterns have sickle cell anemia. An editor writes in the article
4. In an article about Human rights in South Asia by country, almost all of the sources specifically analyze one country at a time. An editor writes a lead that summarizes the information in the article, including phrases such as 5. In a review for a song, the editor includes an analysis of the song's lyrics and their meanings that are cited to Genius (website)
6. In an article titled International reactions to the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian Territories, an editor creates a map based on the information in the article where countries are colored in based on their public stances on the issue. These stances are individually supported by citations in the article's text, but no map is cited.
7. In an article about a company, Source A says that in 2018, the company made $100k in revenue selling Product X. Source B says that in 2018, the company made $200k selling Product Y. An editor writes in the article
8. In an article about the Climate of South America, a source provides measurements in Celsius. An editor converts the measurements to Fahrenheit in the article.
Additional practice II[edit]1. In an article about Celebrity McPerson, Source A says that Celebrity McPerson was an alcoholic, and that they died liver cancer. Source B says that liver cancer is a common symptom of long term alcohol abuse. An editor writes "McPerson died of liver cancer, a common symptom of alcohol abuse", citing Source A after the comma and Source B at the end of the sentence.
2. In an article about the Political McCandidate, Source A says that McCandidate lost their reelection bid, carrying 54% of white voters but only 12% of black voters. An editor then writes "McCandidate lost the election due to a lack of support among black voters"
3. In an article about journalist Steve Meinung, an editor writes "Meinung has been published in many major newspapers including the New York Times, The Guardian, and The Wall Street Journal". Each of mention of these newspapers is accompanied by a citation to an opinion piece written by Meinung in that publication
4. In an article about the Third Crusade, an editor draws a map of the path followed by the various crusader armies.
5. In an article about Betty Author, the lead includes the sentence "Author's works have received favorable reviews from critics including the LA Review of Books and the New York Times". In the article, a Reception section discusses critical responses to Author's work in depth. These responses are largely favorable, and positive reviews in the LARB and NYT are included as citations and discussed. 6. In an article about the film Cameraperson, an editor adds a plot summary without providing any sources.
7. In an article about the Seminoles, Source A says that Seminoles were able to defend themselves from American incursions in the swamps of Florida for a very long time. Source B says that Seminoles were much better than the Americans at navigating the swamps of Florida. An editor writes "The Seminoles were able to successfully defend themselves from American attacks for a long time. Seminoles had a much easier time moving through the swamps of Florida than the Americans"
8. Exactly the same set up as the previous question, but this time the editor writes "The Seminoles were able to successfully defend themselves from American attacks over a long period of time due to their greater ability to move through Florida's swamps"
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PART 2
General criteria[edit]
Article and redirect criteria[edit]
Scenarios[edit]
John Smith is the worst elementary school teacher on the planet.
'''Good Times LLC''' is an organization dedicated to helping your children get the highest quality education at an affordable price. Visit our website at goodtimes.info and contact us at 123-456-7890.
'''Edward Gordon''' (born July 1998) is an aspiring American actor and songwriter. So far, he has starred in many school plays and has published two albums on SoundCloud. He has over 500 subscribers on YouTube.
Bazz Ward was a Hall of Fame roadie and I wish he was as well known as Lemmy. Cheers Bazz.
Under the law of Oregon which was in force in Alaska when the seizure and levy of the plaintiff's goods were made by the defendant as marshal of Alaska under a writ of attachment, that officer could not, by virtue of his writ, lawfully take the property from the possession of a third person, in whose possession he found it.
A user creates an article, but you can't understand any of it because it's in a foreign language.
A user creates an article, but shortly after creating it, the same user blanks the article by removing all of its content.
A user creates an article which is an identical copy of another article on Wikipedia.
A user with the name "WikiRockers" creates the following article Phabricators are Fabulous is the debut single of an exciting new group called the WikiRockers.
A user creates an article and 5 minutes after it was created the article only has a single category with no other text.
A user creates an article Larry Footy with the following wikisource (in other words it properly displays in the article): {{Infobox football biography |name = Larry Footy |birth_place = [[Leeds, England]] |currentclub = [[Oxford City]]}}
A user with the name Gamerfan123 creates the following article: GamerCon is an annual event held in the garage of Shelly Sony. Last year 10 people attended - a record. This year's event will be held October 19-21.
A user creates the article HomeTown Pizza with the following content: HomeTown Pizza is a local pizza maker. It has been open since 2004. Its most popular topping, according to the local paper, is pepperoni.[1] References 1.^ localalnewspaper.com/hometownpizza/profile.html
A user Someguy54321 makes the following article and 3 days later gets community banned for repeatedly operating a bot without approval. Mary Beth Walz is a state senator in the New Hampshire House of representatives.
User:PhilHDoct creates the following article at Solar Panel 2.0: Phil Doct has created a new solar panel which will increase energy output from existing solar panels by 30%. He was granted a patent on this invention on May 15.
A user converts a redirect Tayo into an article with the following wikisource. In your answer, also evaluate if anything would be different if a user made this as a new article, rather than from a redirect. [[Tayo the Little Bus|<span style="color: #0088ff;">You: Kill Tayo!!!!!!!!!!! </span><span style="color: #33ff0a;">Rogi: Nooooo You!!!!!!! </span><span style="color: #00a2ff;">Tayo:Help!!!!! Blood, this is my sad</span><span style="color: #ff2600;"> Gani: Call Emergency!!!!! <span style="color: #0088ff;">You: Kill Gani!!!!!!</span><span style="color: #eeff00;"> Lani:321! Bomb you!!!</span>]]
A user named John from Acme Inc creates the following article. Assume that there is secondary sourcing present for all statements. Acme Inc is a Mumbai based widget company with 1200 employees and 10 million (US) in revenues. They were founded in 2015 by Wiley C Oyote. Their first product was a one inch widget. Acme have won several awards for quality.
A user named John from Acme Inc creates the following article. Assume that there is sourcing to the company's website present for all statements. Acme Inc is the premier award-winning Indian widget company. Located in beautiful Mumbai, the company has 1200 hard-working dedicated employees who have powered the company to over 10 million (US) in revenues. In a flash of inspiration brilliant inventor Wiley C Oyote started the company in 2015. Their first product revolutionized widgets and amazingly each new product has been even more impressive. Acme has shown themselves to be the best in the business and only has the greatest things ahead of them. "If you want widgets, you want Acme," Chief Marketing officer John Roadrunner said.
A user named John from Acme Inc creates the following article. Acme Inc is an award-winning[1][2] Indian widget company. The company has 1200 hard-working dedicated employees[3] who have powered the company to over 10 million (US) in revenues.[2] We were founded in 2015 by Wiley C Oyote.[3] Our first product was a one inch widget.[4] Acme has become an important widget manufacturer.[3] "If you want widgets, you want Acme," Chief Marketing officer John Roadrunner said.[4] ==References== 1.^ Indian company customer reviews. http://www.indiancustomers.com/Acme 2.^ Reporter, A. "Acme Wins Award". Mumbai Newspaper. October 20, 2018. 3.^ "Why Acme" acmewidgets.com 4.^ "Acme brings Widget to Market" www.pressreleases.com
The4lines, good work with the promotional examples. Next up is redirect practice. signed, Rosguill talk 22:21, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
An editor creates a redirect titled "Sittin Chapel" pointing at Sistine Chapel
An editor creates a redirect titled "Bornio" pointing at Borneo
An editor creates a redirect titled "St Augustine," pointing at St. Augustine
An editor creates a redirect titled "New Joyzee" pointing at New Jersey
An editor creates a redirect titled "Caltary" tagged with {{R from misspelling}} pointing at Calvary
Copyvio[edit]
Answer: Ah yes I work in Copyright place a lot, G12 is when there is no copyright free diff of the draft or page. RD-1 is used when removing copyvio without removing attribution to non-infringing contributors.
Answer: When you copy (or very closely paraphrase) from a site that is copyrighted. A PD site would not be a vio.
Answer i: If it is a PD site.
Answer ii: If it is a quote.
Answer iii: When the copyright has expired.
Answer: Because they are violating copyright which is a legal Policy. And eh, info-en-c@wikimedia.org or a Wikimedia Foundation's designated agent I think.
Conflicts of interest and paid editors[edit]
Answer: Normally by their Flowery wording, also a username is a huge key indiator that they are a COI/PAID edior.
Answer: We could WP:DRAFTIFY the aritcle, and do a COI warning and see if they say their COI.
Answer: WP:DRAFTIFY The article, and ask the warn the edior about Paid editing, and ask if they they can discolse who is paying which they have to do under the WMF terms.
Additional COI practice[edit]For each of the following prompts, identify how likely it is that the described behavior is COI or PAID editing (not COI/unlikely/possible/likely/very likely), as well as what measures would be appropriate to take (both in terms of messages sent to the involved editors and whether to approve/delete/draftify/tag the article). Don't assume any information about the scenarios beyond what is written: if you feel like you would need additional information to provide a proper answer, describe the various outcomes you would consider based on additional hypothetical evidence.
@Rosguill: Done, Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 15:00, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
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In assignment 4, we look at articles which meetWP:Criteria for speedy deletion (CSD) whereby the the articles are deleted within a few hours to 24 hours from the time of the nomination. In Assignment 5, we discuss the what actions should be taken for those articles do not fit under the CSD criteria but do not meet relevant criteria for content of the encyclopedia.
Answer: We would propose del. with it is a uncontroversial del. And it is easier than AFD. Used if no opposition to the del. is expected.
Answer: First we check if there is alts to the del. (Like Merging or redirecting.) And check if it has been on AFD or has been undel. During the nom, we should add the {old prod} if it has been before prod. to the talk page.
Answer: That the article has no sources in any form. I) We can do another del. process II) criteria for speedy deletion III) Fix it your self.
Answer: If it does not meet Wikipedia:Proposed deletion or Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion. We have to do a Wikipedia:BEFORE check.
Answer: AFD last for 7 days. Prods and BlpProds could last less then 7 days.
Answer: I will take it to AFD.
Answer: They do it because when they are very smailar and because it is better then del. the article.
Answer: Shortcuts, Alternate spellings, Alternate names, Abbreviations, Adjectives and adverbs directing to nouns, Wrong Spellings, Abbreviations, Punctuation issues, Likely alternative capitalizations, More specific forms of names.
Answer: I would use JSTOR, Google books, Google scholar. And for languages I don't uderstand Google Translate.
Answer: When it does not meet mainspace "requirements" and allows more time for the draft to get ready.
:Sure, When a Editor has a COI, when the article does not meet the required standard, he topic has some potential merit.
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Tagging
[edit]In this assignment we look at tagging pages for problems. There any many tags available in Wikipedia and we will look at some of them here.
- Please enable Wikipedia:HotCat in your "Wikipedia references" - see How to enable/disable HotCat. The tool lists and proposes existing categories for auto-completion.
- Please install StubSorter user script. The script is for adding/removing stub tags.
- Please install Rater user script. The scripts provides a dialog interface to add, remove, or modify WikiProject banners, including class and importance assessment. Accessible from either the page itself or its talk page. after saving, you have to bypass your browser's cache to see the changes - see instruction at Wikipedia:Bypass your cache.
- Please enable User:Galobtter/Shortdesc helper gadget for editing, adding, and importing short descriptions.
Tagging in the article
[edit]Please read WP:TAGGING and answer the questions below. Please provide explanations in your own words and provide hist diff when applicable.
- 1. Why do we place tags on the article?
Answer: So people can work on the article and tell readers that it may have problems.
, another key reason is that it adds the article to backlogs of pages that need work. signed, Rosguill talk 01:21, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- 2. What does "drive by tagging" mean?
Answer: That you just tag the article without looking at it.
, drive by tagging generally refers to the act of placing tags and then failing to follow up. This failure takes the form of either not sufficiently explaining the reason for the tag (in the case of vague or complicated tags like {{POV}} and {{Notability}}), or failing to respond to further questions or responses to the tag. signed, Rosguill talk 01:21, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- 3. List 5 common tagging behaviors that should be avoided in an article
Answer: Wrong tags, Unhelpful tags, Unconstructive tagging, Too many tags, Disputes over tags.
- What is the difference between wrong tags, unhelpful tags, and unconstructive tagging? I'll also add that disputes over tags can and do happen, and I'm not sure I would list them as behavior to be avoided (although obviously edit warring over a tag is silly). signed, Rosguill talk 01:21, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- A wrong tag is when you put a tag that does not say you want it to say. A unhelpful tag is when you put it because it is merely possible. Not every article needs a tag (Wikipedia:NOTAG).
- A wrong tag is when you put a tag that does not say you want it to say. A unhelpful tag is when you put it because it is merely possible. Not every article needs a tag (Wikipedia:NOTAG).
- What is the difference between wrong tags, unhelpful tags, and unconstructive tagging? I'll also add that disputes over tags can and do happen, and I'm not sure I would list them as behavior to be avoided (although obviously edit warring over a tag is silly). signed, Rosguill talk 01:21, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- 4. When is it appropriate to remove the tags?
Answer: When the problem listed on the tag is gone.
- @Rosguill: Done, Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 23:41, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- The4lines, follow up questions to 3 and 4. signed, Rosguill talk 01:21, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Rosguill: Done, Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 01:27, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- The4lines, ok next up is your final exam, which is split into several sections. In some portions, you'll be asked to nominate articles for deletion or participate in discussions. For these sections, I'm less interested in whether your vote ends up matching the outcome or if your CSD is accepted than whether your reasoning for the vote or tag was sound (although being correct is also generally a good sign). signed, Rosguill talk 03:02, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Rosguill: Done, Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 01:27, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- The4lines, follow up questions to 3 and 4. signed, Rosguill talk 01:21, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
Final Exam
[edit]Part 1
[edit]1. In your own words, how should you communicate with editors whose articles you are reviewing?
- Answer: We should be nice to them WP:AGF, [For all editors] as if we are not we might deter or give the wrong idea about wikipedia to the new editor [For new editors]. And you should always follow up with the question that they might ask.
2. What kind of sources are needed to demonstrate the notability of the subject? Why is this important?
- Answer: We need sources that are independent, reliable, have significant coverage of the subject, and verify the info.
3.What constitutes a WP:COPYVIO? When might something not be copyvio despite having text identical to a source?
- Answer: When someone copys a copyrighted source like a website, book, etc, without permission. When it is a PD site, book, etc, a quote, or a bibliography of a someones publications, or a particularly long name of an award won by a subject. [or if it has a License compatible with wikipedia.]
4. What should we do when we encounter WP:COPYVIO in an article?
- Answer: If it is the whole article and there is not clean diff to rv to we place a G12, and if it is a small part then we remove it and place a RD-1 reequest.
Sometimes an RD-1 will not be appropriate, if editors other than the editor that introduced the copyvio have made significant prose contributions whose history would be wiped out by the RD-1. In those cases, we just remove the copyvio and move on. It's also important to notify the editors responsible for adding the copyvio (unless you tag G12, in which case the automatic warning is enough). signed, Rosguill talk 16:35, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
5. What should we do when we encounter WP:PAID?
- Answer: If we find an article we WP:DRAFTIFY it, and tag it with {upe} ask and warn the edior about Paid editing, and ask if they can discolse who is paying which they have to do under the WMF terms.
6. When do we nominate a page for WP:G12 and when do we WP:REVDEL the COPYVIO text?
- Answer: We CSD the article when there is a big % of the article that is Copyvio and there is no clean diff to rv to. Revdel is when there is a small number of text that is copyvio but is only used when removing copyvio without removing attribution to non-infringing contributors.
7. What makes an article a WP:PROMO page? What should we do when we encounter such an article?
- Answer: An article that promotes something, and if we see it we G11 it.
8. Why do we tag a page? What are common tags to place on an article?
- Answer: We tag an article so editors and readers that there is issues with the article, More references, No references, COI.
9. When do we WP:R2 a page?
- Answer: This applies to redirects, apart from shortcuts from the main namespace to any other namespace except the Category:, Template:, Wikipedia:, Help: and Portal: namespaces.
10. When do we WP:PROD a page?
- Answer: When an article doesn't meet CSD, but not expected to be controversial, like if it is not meet GNG.
11. When do we WP:BLPPROD a page?
- Answer: We check That the article has no sources in any form, and it is a BLP.
12. When do we WP:AfD a page?
- Answer: If it does not meet Wikipedia:Proposed deletion or Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion. We have to do a Wikipedia:BEFORE check. also.
13. Why it is important to WP:CSD a page when the article fit the CSD criteria?
- Answer: Speedy deletion is intended to reduce the time spent on deletion discussions for pages or media with no practical chance of surviving discussion.
14. What does it mean to AGF? What does it not mean?
- It is the assumption that editors' edits and comments are made in good faith. Because most people are trying to help the wikipedia. You don't have to AGF in the presence of obvious evidence to the contrary (e.g. vandalism).
Part 2
[edit]Please provide the names of 5 CSD criteria G11 articles you have nominated from Special:NewPagesFeed (New Page Patrol or Article for Creation section).
- Answer i: Draft:Zaid owies
- Answer ii: Draft:Daniel Stricker
- Answer iii: Draft:Sonu husain
- Answer v: WebWed Mobile
Part 3
[edit]Please provide 5 CSD G12 articles you have nominated from Special:NewPagesFeed (New Page Patrol or Article for Creation section). You can use Earwig's Copyvio Detector tool to check if an article is in violation of COPYVIO.
- Answer i: Draft:John Petrie (drag racer)
- Answer ii: Draft:Bhanga Higher Secondary school
- Answer iii: Editions Alecto
- Answer iv: Draft:Los Angeles Chinese Film Festival
Part 4
[edit]Please provide 5 "Article CSD" articles (with at least two of them are CSD A7) you have nominated from Special:NewPagesFeed (New Page Patrol "ONLY"). Pls provide the article names and hist diff.
Answer i: The Ungrateful
- Answer ii: Prad KC
this was more G11/BLPPROD than A7
- Answer iii: Jutt Musawar19
- Answer iv: Knock games
- Answer v: Editions Alecto
, this was about a company, not a person (you used the wrong CSD code), and was a better fit for G11 (and G12 apparently, according to deletion logs) than A7.
Part 5
[edit]1. Nominate 2 articles for WP:PROD and state your reasons.
- Answer i: Naandhi (2020 film) because Not notable for wikipedia yet. Unrated films can only be included when there is reliable sources saying that the main photography has started. And there is no sources.
- Answer ii: Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (2022 film) Same reason as above
2. Nominate 1 article for WP:BLPROD and state your reasons.
- Answer i: Mervyn Frost
Part 6
[edit]1. Participate in 5 WP:AFD where by you are the first voter of the discussion after the nomination and provide links to the discussions.
- Answer ii: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blindfire
- Answer iii: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bunk Campers
Part 7
[edit]Nominate 5 articles for WP:AFD by using WP:Twinkle and provide explanations for your nomination.
- Answer ii: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steppenwolf: The X-Creatures Project (2nd nomination) because Does not meet WP:GNG. And has no Refs.
- Answer iv:
- Answer v:
Part 8
[edit]Please list 10 things that need to be considered when reviewing a page.
- Answer i: Check if the article is in English
- Answer ii: Check for WP:Wikipedia is not
- Answer iii: Check for copyright
- Answer iv: Check for promo content
- Answer v: Check for reliable and independent sources.
- Answer vi: Check for notability guidelines
- Answer vii: Tag it with G11, A7, etc. if neeeded.
- Answer viii: Add categories
- Answer xi: Add WikiProjects
- Answer x: Add short description
, while none of these steps are wrong, this isn't quite the answer I was looking for. Missing from this list of steps is checking for neutrality issues other than "promo"; while the most common form of POV editing that we see in NPP is promotional, problematic POV editing can also be negative. Also missing is checking for copy editing issues. Additionally, several of the listed steps here are strictly redundant: checking for reliable sources is part of checking against notability guidelines; G11 and A7 tagging are part of assessing POV and notability respectively. signed, Rosguill talk 16:33, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Part 9
[edit]Pick 5 articles that meet the notability guidelines (no PROD/BLPPROD/R2/AfD/CSD) from the new pages from Special:NewPagesFeed and follow the NPP flowchart and provide the appropriate answer below (pls place N/A if not applicable). Pick articles that have 3-4 sources for the exercises below. (pls provide link and hist diff). You should follow the NPP flowchart.
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[edit]- 1.
- Article = Jack Peterson Memorial
- Article titles = ok
- Images copyright = Yes, I found it in one of the sources.
- NPOV = none
- COI / PAID = none
- COPYVIO = none
- Article Class = start
- Short Descr = Revolutionary war era patriot Memorial
- Categories = Monuments and memorials
- Review = Reviewed under AGF. Since I can't find the other sources.
- Reason (for 10) = It seems to meet GNG. Comes up with 8,000,000 on google.
- Sources I can't find two of the sources so only 2 for this one.
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.hmdb.org/m.asp?m=126260 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.visitwestchesterny.com/things-to-do/history/african-american-history/ | ![]() |
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? Not really, all it says is "The Jack Peterson Memorial acknowledges a militiaman of African descent who, in 1780, fired on a boat full of British soldiers attempting to come ashore. Peterson alerted officers at Fort Lafayette, who mobilized forces. A cannon greatly damaged the British ship, which was then unable to retrieve one of its commanders who had snuck ashore. The capture of this Major Andre led to the uncovering of the Benedict Arnold plot." | ? Unknown |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
, given the subject matter it's not a huge deal, but the article's language has some neutrality issues. I don't know that it needs a template, but it should have at least been noted here as part of the review (and in an actual review scenario, you should let the editor in question know too). signed, Rosguill talk 16:58, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
2
[edit]- 2.
- Article = Baghdasht Peak
- Article titles = ok
- Images copyright = None
- NPOV = Ok
- COI / PAID = None
- COPYVIO = None
- Article Class = Stub
- Short Descr = None
- Categories = Peak in Iran
- Review = Reviewed In AGF
- Reason (for 10) = Seems Notable enough to be in, but I can't read the sources since their in a language a can't read. It's also in List of mountains in Iran
- Sources The Sources are in a different language, so in AGF I'm going to say that their good.
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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Error: a source must be specified | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
Error: a source must be specified | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
Error: a source must be specified | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
Error: a source must be specified | ? Unknown | |||
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
, Google Translate can process Persian well enough to review the sources in question. There was also some significant confusion in the article's content as to whether Baghdasht is a peak or a mountain range. Note that the article was since deleted per G5 as the editor that created it was blocked for socking; I did not hold this against you when reviewing this question. signed, Rosguill talk 16:39, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
3
[edit]- 3.
- Article = Ilha de Santana
- Article titles = Ok
- Images copyright = None
- NPOV = None
- COI / PAID = None
- COPYVIO = None
- Article Class = Stub
- Short Descr = None
- Categories = Islands of the Amazon, River islands of Brazil, Populated places established in 1753, Populated places in Amapá, Amapá geography stubs, Island stubs.
- Review = Reviewed
- Reason (for 10) = Seems Notable. AGF for the sources since I can't read it.
- Sources
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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Error: a source must be specified | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
Error: a source must be specified | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
Error: a source must be specified | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
Error: a source must be specified | ? Unknown | |||
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, while in this case the subject does appear notable, Portuguese can be easily translated using Google Translate. signed, Rosguill talk 16:43, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
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[edit]- 4.
- Article =
- Article titles =
- Images copyright =
- NPOV =
- COI / PAID =
- COPYVIO =
- Article Class =
- Short Descr =
- Categories =
- Review =
- Reason (for 10) =
- Sources
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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Error: a source must be specified | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
Error: a source must be specified | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
Error: a source must be specified | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
Error: a source must be specified | ? Unknown | |||
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
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[edit]- 5.
- Article =
- Article titles =
- Images copyright =
- NPOV =
- COI / PAID =
- COPYVIO =
- Article Class =
- Short Descr =
- Categories =
- Review =
- Reason (for 10) =
- Sources
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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Error: a source must be specified | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
Error: a source must be specified | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
Error: a source must be specified | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
Error: a source must be specified | ? Unknown | |||
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Part 10
[edit]Creating article
Please create a new article about a notable subject. If you can't think of a subject to write about, inspiration be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/API Women.
Answer: Dixon Reservoir (Escondido)
- @Rosguill: Hello, I'm working on a GA right now so I will not work on this until the GA is done. Best, Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 14:54, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- The4lines, sounds good. signed, Rosguill talk 16:01, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Rosguill: Sorry Rosguill for not talking in monuths, I was busy with life and I did not have time for wikipedia, I will start working on it tommow. Best, Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 14:37, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Rosguill: Sry, life has just been crazy, I hope to finsh this soon! Thanks, Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 16:22, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Rosguill: Sorry Rosguill for not talking in monuths, I was busy with life and I did not have time for wikipedia, I will start working on it tommow. Best, Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 14:37, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- The4lines, sounds good. signed, Rosguill talk 16:01, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- Rosguill I made a article a few monuths ago, can i use that one for Part. 10? Thanks, Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 16:30, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
- The4lines, yes although if you do pick an old article, I'd read through it again to make sure it doesn't have any obvious errors that you may have learned about since creating it. signed, Rosguill talk 17:10, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
- Rosguill I added the article. Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 22:46, 2 December 2020 (UTC) .
- The4lines, yes although if you do pick an old article, I'd read through it again to make sure it doesn't have any obvious errors that you may have learned about since creating it. signed, Rosguill talk 17:10, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Conclusion
[edit]I'm sorry The4lines, but I'm afraid that I can't give you a passing grade on this course. I'm seeing too many careless mistakes in the final exam as well as errors that suggest an incomplete understanding of neutrality guidelines and deletion procedures. At this point, I don't think there is any need to draw this out further. I hope that you will not allow this to discourage you from editing productively in other fields of work on Wikipedia. signed, Rosguill talk 16:52, 2 April 2021 (UTC)