User:Rosguill/GargAvinash NPPSCHOOL
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Notability
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PART 1 I know that you said that you've already read through the notability guidelines, but given that this is a critical part of NPP, I'd like to ask you the following questions to confirm that you have a proper understanding of the subject. If you pass these without any issue, we can move on to other topics. signed, Rosguill talk 18:56, 2 March 2020 (UTC) Questions[edit]
In your own words, how is notability defined on Wikipedia?
Would step by step instructions on how to "Change a car tire" be considered a notable topic in Wikipedia? Why or why not?
What are the differences between the WP:GNG and the subject-specific notability guidelines? How do we determine which one to use when patrolling an article?
Subject-specific notability guidelines[edit]1. Please categorize the subject-specific notability guidelines (listed at WP:SNG) into the following three categories
2. Virtually all SNGs that provide additional notability criteria specify that these criteria may indicate that the subject meets notability guidelines. How would you interpret this caveat as a new page reviewer?
Break[edit]GargAvinash, looks like you had a bit of trouble with the subject-specific notability guidelines. I've added more questions below, but I also want to open up space here in case you have further questions or disagree with my comments above. signed, Rosguill talk 19:06, 3 March 2020 (UTC) Scenarios[edit]For the following scenarios, review just based on "subject notability guidelines" (SNG) "alone" for sake of the exercise. Do not consider any sources or other policies. Please answer if the subject meets the SNG guidelines based on the given content below, and specify which notability criteria they meet or fail.
An editor creates an article about "2024 Summer Olympics" in 2020 without providing any sources, is the subject considered not notable and why?
A New York city based 2020 start up software company , specializing in data mining, has just received a USD 200K investor fund.
Movsar Evloev who is a Ultimate Fighting Championships fighters with the undefeated mixed martial arts record of 12-0.
An upcoming action drama title "Suleiman the Great" based on the the life of Suleiman the Magnificent, was reported will be in production in December 2019 and to be released on August 2020 in the cinemas.
A political candidates, without any previous or current political position, who is running for November 2020 election for a Senator position in United States with multiple local newspapers coverage of his candidacy.
A singer who self produced his first album in May 2019 and his songs are listed in Spotify.
The following scenarios are all articles on Wikipedia which meet notability guidelines. Please simply assess whether an SNG would apply to the article's subject, ignoring GNG for the sake of this exercise.
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Sources
[edit]Background for trainees
[edit]- Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. As such, claims made in articles should be supported by independent (secondary), reliable sources for verification. Please read WP:RS, WP:IS, WP:RSP, WP:V, WP:PROVEIT, WP:Primary, WP:Secondary, and WP:Tertiary.
- You can contact WP:RX if you could not find the sources yourself either on the web due to paywalls or offline-only sources.
Exercises
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Topic | Definition | 5 Examples | Comment by Trainer |
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Reliable source | Sources for any article on Wikipedia must be reliable. Generally the sources which are not too new or old and is not directly connected to the topic are considered reliable. GargAvinash (talk) 13:30, 4 April 2020 (UTC) | ![]() | |
User generated sources | Sources that are generated without the verification of facts. GargAvinash (talk) 13:30, 4 April 2020 (UTC) |
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Non Independent source | Non-independent sources mean the sources that have vested interest in the topic implies they may have a financial or legal relationship to the topic. GargAvinash (talk) 20:31, 6 April 2020 (UTC) |
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Type | Definition | Examples (15 Primary ; 5 Secondary ; 5 Tertiary) | Comment by Trainer |
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Primary | Primary Sources are very close to any event. If it is a published written source then it is often written by the people who are directly involved in that topic. It is the actual stuff that can be found for any subject. GargAvinash (talk) 20:55, 13 April 2020 (UTC) |
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Secondary | Secondary Sources relies on primary sources. It provides the author's own views on any incident or topic based on primary sources. This includes the analysis of facts obtained by primary sources. GargAvinash (talk) 20:55, 13 April 2020 (UTC) |
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As far as your overall definition is concerned, while secondary sources generally do rely on primary sources, secondary sources are also allowed to incorporate information from other secondary sources or tertiary sources as well. signed, Rosguill talk 22:14, 13 April 2020 (UTC) |
Tertiary | Tertiary Sources are either based on primary and secondary sources altogether or only on secondary sources. It summarizes the information obtained from primary and secondary sources. GargAvinash (talk) 20:55, 13 April 2020 (UTC) |
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Subject | Primary | Secondary | Tertiary | Comment by Trainer |
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Example: Art | Example:Sculpture | Example:Article critiquing the sculpture | Example:Encyclopedic article on the sculptor | |
History | Original script | Study by archaeologists | Analysis of script & study by journalists | ![]() |
Science | "Experiment" in journal | Analysis of the experiment by a profesor | Chapter of the experiment in school textbook | ![]() |
Athletes | Straight answers by them | Media coverage on them | Encyclopedic article on them | ![]() |
- In the tables below, please indicate "y" for yes or "n" for no after "ind", "rel" and "sig" (see first example) and give a brief explanation of why you place "y" or "n" for each source.
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![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Wrightfallingwater.jpg/220px-Wrightfallingwater.jpg)
Frank Lloyd Wright (June 8, 1867 – April 9, 1959) was an American architect, interior designer, writer, and educator. Wright believed in designing structures that were in harmony with humanity and its environment, a philosophy he called organic architecture. His creative period spanned more than 70 years. He works includes The Guggenheim, swirling, snail-shaped museum in the middle of Manhattan.[1][2] Fallingwater, which has been called "the best all-time work of American architecture."[3] This is one of Wright's most famous private residences (completed 1937), was built for Mr. and Mrs. Edgar J. Kaufmann, Sr., at Mill Run, Pennsylvania. Constructed over a 30-foot waterfall, it was designed according to Wright's desire to place the occupants close to the natural surroundings. The house was intended to be more of a family getaway, rather than a live-in home.[4]
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://nypost.com/2017/06/07/frank-lloyd-wright-was-a-house-builder-and-homewrecker/ | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://franklloydwright.org/work/ | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://web.archive.org/web/20080302053743/http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/jul2004/nf20040728_3153_db078.htm | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://books.google.com/books?id=KSA1HTTU-eMC | ![]() |
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✘ No |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
, all correct except the book: John Wiley and Sons is a well-known and reputable publisher, so we can assume that it's sufficiently reliable in this context. If the author had an established track record of being unreliable, that would be a different story. A citation like that will hold up through GA-level, maybe at FA it would cause trouble, but for NPP this caliber of source is fine, provided that it's not being used to support some outlandish claim (e.g. "Wright was briefly the King of France from 1940–1942"). signed, Rosguill talk 17:18, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
References
- ^ Hoffman, Barbara (2017-06-07). "Famed architect Frank Lloyd Wright had a dark side". New York Post. Retrieved 2019-10-04.
- ^ "Frank Lloyd Wright's Work". Frank Lloyd Wright Foundation. Retrieved 2019-10-04.
- ^ "BW Online | July 28, 2004 | Frank Lloyd Wright: America's Architect". 2008-03-02. Archived from the original on 2008-03-02. Retrieved 2019-10-04.
- ^ Robert C. Twombly (24 April 1987). Frank Lloyd Wright: His Life and His Architecture. John Wiley & Sons. ISBN 978-0-471-85797-6.
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![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Phoenix_King.jpg/220px-Phoenix_King.jpg)
Jordan Lennon (born February 22, 2000), is a British film producer and actor. [1] Lennon is currently a member of BAFTA.[2] He continues to work aside 20th Century Fox, Warner Bros, Wicked Wales, Capture Studios, Cineworld, Paramount Pictures, and Rockefeller Foundation.[3]
At age 16, the Vice President of 20th Century Fox, Paul Higginson. Who previously worked on Star Wars, Titanic, and Independence Day took on Jordan and Rowan Snow as a mentor.[4] In December 2018, Jordan and Rowan finished British Film Academy.[5] Jordan lived in Skelmersdale for 10 years before moving to Rhyl, North Wales. He's currently writing 'Stranger in the Night' scrreenplay for Warner Brothers.
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.imdb.com/name/nm8902348/ | ![]() |
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✘ No |
http://www.bafta.org/wales | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-d-98111a125 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/Jordan-David/ | ![]() |
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✘ No |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
References
- ^ "Jordan D. Lennon". IMDb. Retrieved 2019-01-21.
- ^ "BAFTA Cymru". www.bafta.org. 2014-06-16. Retrieved 2019-01-21.
- ^ Lennon, Jordan. "LinkedIn Account". LinkedIn.
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(help) - ^ "Jordan David - 2 Character Images". Behind The Voice Actors. Retrieved 2019-10-04.
- ^ "BFI Film Academy". Tape Community Music & Film. 2016-08-24. Retrieved 2019-01-21.
, all correct. Beyond your hunch about unreliable information, IMDb actually has an entry at WP:RSP which records a clear consensus that IMDb is not a reliable source due to its reliance on crowdsourcing and a lack of fact checking. signed, Rosguill talk 17:33, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
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![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/Sonny_Bill_Williams_2010.jpg/220px-Sonny_Bill_Williams_2010.jpg)
Sonny William Williams (born 3 August 1985), who is a Muslim[1], is a New Zealand All blacks rugby union footballer,[2] Williams was a Marist Saints junior when he was spotted playing in Auckland by Bulldogs talent scout John Ackland.[3] In 2002 he was offered a contract and moved to Sydney (as the youngest player to ever sign with an NRL club) to play in the Bulldogs' junior grades.[4]
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7505117/2019-Rugby-World-Cup-Sonny-Bill-Williams-expecting-fourth-child.html | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
http://stats.allblacks.com/asp/Profile.asp?ABID=1108 | ? Unknown | |||
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/warriors-league-team/news/article.cfm?c_id=360&objectid=10399308 | ? Unknown | |||
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/10/01/1096527943523.html | ? Unknown | |||
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
References
- ^ "2019 Rugby World Cup: Sonny Bill Williams is expecting a fourth child". Mail Online. 2019-09-25. Retrieved 2019-10-04.
- ^ "Stats | allblacks.com". stats.allblacks.com. Retrieved 2019-10-04.
- ^ Rattue, Chris (2 September 2006). "Jerome Ropati – Miracle in the making". New Zealand Herald. APN Holdings. Retrieved 10 October 2010.
- ^ "The King, Sonny and heir". Sydney Morning Herald. Fairfax. 2 October 2004. Retrieved 12 November 2011.
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![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/DCIA_David_Petraeus.jpg/220px-DCIA_David_Petraeus.jpg)
David Howell Petraeus AO (/pɪˈtreɪ.əs/; born November 7, 1952) is a retired United States Army general and public official. He served as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency from September 6, 2011,[1] until his resignation on November 9, 2012[2] after his affair with Paula Broadwell was reported.[3]
Petraeus was born in Cornwall-on-Hudson, New York, the son of Sixtus Petraeus (1915–2008),[4] a sea captain from Franeker, Netherlands.[5]
In 2003, Petraeus commanded the 101st Airborne Division in the fall of Baghdad[6][7]
References
- ^ "Petraeus sworn in as CIA director". CNN. Retrieved October 11, 2019.
- ^ Johnson, Kevin (November 9, 2012). "David Petraeus resigns from CIA". USA Today. Retrieved November 9, 2012.
- ^ "Petraeus Shocked By Girlfriend's Emails". HuffPost. 2012-11-12. Retrieved 2019-10-11.
- ^ "Sixtus Petraeus". geni.com.
- ^ "David Petraeus' Winning Streak". Vanity Fair. March 30, 2010. Retrieved October 11, 2019.
- ^ "beyond baghdad". www.pbs.org. 2004-02-12. Retrieved 2019-10-11.
- ^ "David Petraeus: General Surge". The Independent. 2007-09-08. Retrieved 2019-10-11.