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This is a survey of National Rail stations (including London Overground) with interchanges with the London Underground or DLR, and their coverage on Wikipedia (as of 26 January 2008). Hopefully my line abbreviations are clear. Also, I hope I haven't missed anything!

Station LU line(s)/DLR NR operator Shared platforms/
tracks?
Shared ticket
hall?
WP article(s) Single/split Page size(s) Notes
Euston NOR, VIC Network Rail No No Euston railway station
Euston tube station
Split 18KB, 14KB Split way back in November 2004 [1]. Single article would likely exceed 30KB
Ealing Broadway CEN, DIS First Great Western No Yes (NR) Ealing Broadway station Single 9KB  
Greenford CEN LUL Platforms Yes (LUL) Greenford station Single 5KB  
Liverpool Street CEN, CIR, HAM, MET Network Rail No No Liverpool Street station Single 19KB  
South Ruislip CEN Chiltern Railways No Yes (LUL) South Ruislip station Single 4KB  
Stratford CEN, JUB, DLR one Platforms Yes (LUL) Stratford station Single 15KB  
West Ruislip CEN Chiltern Railways No Yes (LUL) West Ruislip station Single 5KB  
Barbican CIR, HAM, MET LUL No Yes (LUL) Barbican station Single 6KB Cross-platform interchange
Blackfriars CIR, DIS First Capital Connect No No Blackfriars station Single 13KB  
Cannon Street CIR, DIS Network Rail No No Cannon Street station Single 17KB  
Farringdon CIR, HAM, MET LUL No Yes (LUL) Farringdon station Single 7KB Cross-platform interchange
Kings Cross St Pancras CIR, HAM, MET, NOR, PIC, VIC various No No King's Cross St. Pancras tube station
London King's Cross railway station
St Pancras railway station
Split 8KB, 20KB, 57KB Single article not feasible because of complexity
Paddington BAK, CIR, DIS, HAM Network Rail No No London Paddington station Single 22K Previously split and re-merged in September 2006 [2] (discussion)
Victoria CIR, DIS, VIC Network Rail No No London Victoria Station Single 15KB  
Moorgate CIR, HAM, MET, NOR LUL Widened Lines platforms Yes (LUL) Moorgate station Single 8KB  
Barking DIS, HAM c2c Platforms Yes (NR) Barking station Single 5KB  
Gunnersbury DIS LUL Tracks Yes (LUL) Gunnersbury station Single 7KB  
Kensington Olympia DIS London Overground Platforms Yes (LO) Kensington Olympia station Single 8KB  
Kew Gardens DIS LUL Tracks Yes (LUL) Kew Gardens station (London) Single 7KB  
Richmond DIS South West Trains Some tracks Yes (NR) Richmond station (London) Single 12KB  
Upminster DIS c2c Platforms Yes (NR) Upminster station Single 7KB  
West Brompton DIS LUL No Yes (LUL) West Brompton station Single 6KB Cross-platform interchange
Wimbledon DIS South West Trains Platforms Yes (NR) Wimbledon station Single 11KB Tracks are NetR-owned but solely used by LUL
Greenwich DLR Southeastern No Yes (NR)* Greenwich station Single 5KB *DLR stations do not typically have ticket offices. Cross-platform interchange
Lewisham DLR Southeastern No Yes (NR)* Lewisham station Single 7KB *DLR stations do not typically have ticket offices
Limehouse DLR c2c No Yes (NR)* Limehouse station Single 4KB *DLR stations do not typically have ticket offices
West Ham DIS, DLR, HAM, JUB LUL No Yes (LUL) West Ham station Single 7KB  
New Cross Gate ELL Southern Platforms Yes (NR) New Cross Gate station Single 4KB  
New Cross ELL Southeastern Platforms Yes (NR) New Cross station Single 4KB  
London Bridge JUB, NOR Network Rail No No London Bridge station Single 12KB  
Waterloo BAK, JUB, NOR, W&C Network Rail No No Waterloo station
Waterloo tube station
Split* 12KB, 3KB *Split in August 2007 [3][4], but top article still contains some tube info. No discussion to speak of.
Amersham MET LUL Tracks Yes (LUL) Amersham station Single 3KB  
Chalfont & Latimer MET LUL Tracks Yes (LUL) Chalfont & Latimer station Single 3KB  
Chorleywood MET LUL Tracks Yes (LUL) Chorleywood station Single 3KB  
Harrow-on-the-Hill MET LUL Platforms Yes (LUL) Harrow-on-the-Hill station Single 6KB  
Rickmansworth MET LUL Tracks Yes (LUL) Rickmansworth station Single 4KB  
Balham NOR Southern No No Balham station
Balham tube station
Balham railway station
  9KB, 5KB, 6KB Under active debate
Charing Cross BAK, NOR Network Rail No No Charing Cross tube station
Charing Cross railway station
Split 9KB, 7KB  
Old Street NOR First Capital Connect No Yes (LUL) Old Street station Single 4KB  
Kentish Town NOR First Capital Connect No Yes (LUL) Kentish Town station Single 4KB  
Finsbury Park PIC, VIC First Capital Connect No No Finsbury Park station Single 15KB Direct staircases from NR station to tube platforms
Blackhorse Road VIC LUL No Yes (LUL) Blackhorse Road station Single 2KB  
Highbury & Islington VIC LUL No Yes (LUL) Highbury & Islington station Single 7KB  
Seven Sisters VIC one No Yes Seven Sisters station Single 5KB "Behind barriers" interchange
Tottenham Hale VIC one No Yes (both) Tottenham Hale station Single 4KB IIRC there is a single ticket hall, but separate LUL and NR windows
Vauxhall VIC South West Trains No No Vauxhall station Single 3KB  
Walthamstow Central VIC one No No Walthamstow Central station Single 4KB  
West Hampstead JUB First Capital Connect
London Overground
No No West Hampstead railway station
West Hampstead tube station
Split 6KB, 2KB Stations not co-located: approx. 100 to 300 metres apart, no direct connection (diagram)
Elephant & Castle BAK, NOR First Capital Connect No No Elephant & Castle railway station
Elephant & Castle tube station
Split 4KB, 5KB Stations not co-located: approx. 100 to 200 metres apart, no direct connection
Marylebone BAK Chiltern Railways No Yes (both) Marylebone station Single 17KB Separate ticket offices both on NR concourse
Queen's Park BAK LUL Tracks Yes (LUL) Queen's Park station Single 5KB  
Kensal Green BAK LUL Tracks Yes (LUL) Kensal Green station Single 4KB  
Willesden Junction BAK London Overground Some tracks Yes (LO) Willesden Junction station Single 7KB  
Harlesden BAK LUL Tracks Yes (LUL) Harlesden station Single 2KB  
Stonebridge Park BAK LUL Tracks Yes (LUL) Stonebridge Park station Single 3KB  
Wembley Central BAK LUL Some tracks Yes (LUL) Wembley Central station Single 5KB  
North Wembley BAK LUL Tracks Yes (LUL) North Wembley station Single 3KB  
South Kenton BAK LUL Tracks Yes (LUL) South Kenton station Single 3KB  
Kenton BAK LUL Tracks Yes (LUL) Kenton station Single 3KB  
Harrow & Wealdstone BAK LUL Some tracks Yes (LUL) Harrow & Wealdstone station Single 9KB  

Notes

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  • "Shared platforms" includes the possibility that a platform which faces onto a track maintained or solely used by LUL is maintained by the NR operator/Network Rail, or vice-versa. Examples of this include Stratford and Greenford.
  • "Cross-platform interchange" means there are separately-maintained platforms which are immediately adjacent to each other. Examples of this include West Brompton and Greenwich.
  • I decided to omit Canning Town and Custom House, as there are no longer any National Rail services there (and haven't been for over a year), but decided to include New Cross and New Cross Gate.
  • "Walking-distance" interchanges where the stations concerned have different names (e.g. Fenchurch Street to Tower Hill) were deliberately omitted, whereas those with the same name were included.

Commentary

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Separating out the "split" articles from the table above, we have the following:

  • Balham: currently under debate here.
  • Elephant & Castle and West Hampstead: these stations are clearly totally separate--one has to leave rail property and walk some distance in order to connect between them.
  • Kings Cross St Pancras: as commented above, the complexity of this station (in that the tube station serves two distinct National Rail stations), not to mention the article sizes, means that split articles make the most sense here.
  • Euston: the tube and railway station articles were split way back in 2004 [5]. The combined article size would likely be over 30KB, so a split on the grounds of size is reasonable. However, the fact that one has to pass through the NR concourse to get to the LUL station is a possible reason for a single article. I think this is a borderline case!
  • Charing Cross: the two articles seem to have always been separate: I'm not sure of the reason for this. It could be something to do with the fact that Embankment was previously named Charing Cross until 1974, or that Embankment is still advertised as an interchange (although a walk along Villiers Street would be needed for that). There was a renaming debate in 2006 here, but this was more to do with disambiguation related to Charing Cross (Glasgow) railway station. A merged article would have size around 16KB, which is within guidelines.
  • Waterloo: this was split in a rather poorly-executed way in August 2007 [6][7], and the current situation is a bit of a mess. On Talk:Waterloo station, there are various "splits" that have been discussed in the past; these largely involved the issue of splitting off Waterloo East or Waterloo International, rather than the tube station. However, the only discussion on the talk page around August was this, which barely counts as such.

Furthermore, in the case of Paddington there was a clear consensus in favour of having a single article there.

Conclusion: in the vast majority of cases, single articles are used, even when there are no shared tracks, platforms or ticket halls. --RFBailey (talk) 01:50, 26 January 2008 (UTC)