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You may wish to revoke TPA.--Cahk (talk) 08:04, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Hello Cahk. Here's a tip for you: the easiest way to ask an admin to revoke TPA for a blocked user is by asking them at WP:AIV or WP:ANI. Because more people watch those pages, you will likely receive a faster response than if you post on Oshwah's talk page. I hope this helps. Interstellarity (talk) 15:48, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Cahk! Done. Although Interstellarity is correct in that requesting these changes at AIV or ANI would likely get handled faster compared to me (in the event that I'm offline or away, or something...), I don't mind you leaving your requests here as well, and I don't want you to ever feel discouraged from doing so. :-) Just continue to occasionally keep an eye on your requests after you leave them here; if time starts really ticking and you don't see a response from me, and if the user is really abusing their user talk page, doing it numerous times, and it needs attention ASAP - to post your request at AIV or ANI (if you already haven't done so). Other than that, I'm completely okay with your requests and I trust that you're doing the right things. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:34, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
April 2020
Whack! You've been whacked with a foolish trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something silly. |
Special:Diff/20200401 - just wanted to let you know how foolish I am today. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 18:49, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Iggy the Swan! HA! Thanks for the trout! I'm sad to have missed participating in April Fool's day fun this year... Life, career, and other important matters have unfortunately been keeping me much more busy and preoccupied than it used to (such as back in 2017 and 2018). Things will eventually settle (hopefully by the end of the year), and I'll continue to be as active as possible in the meantime, and when life and time permits. Looks like a good group of users did some sneaking around and left some fun stuff in my user page code.... LOL. I hope your April Fool's day was a fun one, and I hope you're doing well. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:38, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of User:Oshwah
April fools Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ Talk 03:33, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
- Zppix! NOOOOoooooo!! Not my user page! I worked hard on that!!! :-P Sorry for the late reply; I hope you had a fun April Fool's day and that life is treating you well. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:39, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
- I certainly liked it when Circle gets deleted for the reason WP:CIRCULAR. Someone thinks the sources there are from Wikipedia. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 09:01, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected required for Template:2019–20 coronavirus pandemic data
Indefinite Extended-confirmed-protection required for Template:2019–20 coronavirus pandemic data. It seems that protection is expired. Lot of vandalism has started. Thank you. Amkgp (talk) 12:22, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Hello Amkgp, I don't think upping the protection would be appropriate. The recent edits I've been seeing seem to be constructive. Interstellarity (talk) 11:57, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Amkgp! Thanks for the message, and I apologize for the delay responding to your request for assistance and protection here. Life has kept me busy, and I'm just now getting caught up on all of the Wikipedia messages, emails, requests, and backlogs that have piled up while I was away. ;-) According to the page logs for this template, this particular template was only semi-protected one time, and done so for an indefinite duration. It has never had extended confirmed protection applied to it before. Are you sure that you're referring to the correct page? Yes, there have been numerous edits made to this template... just looking at the edit history over the last two days will clearly show that... And, yes, edits continue to be made to it at a very high rate - much higher than the average number of edits made to similar template pages that cover other subjects. However, we must take a step back, and we must realize and understand that an alarmingly high number of edits and an alarmingly high rate of edits by multiple people to a single page is not, in itself, vandalism or disruptive or abusive behavior.
- Sure, seeing a page (especially a page about something as big as COVID-19) being hammered with a very high rate of edits is a reasonable set of events that would give the typical experienced editor or recent changes patroller pause, and have red flags and potential alarm bells ringing in their head. This behavior is something that, had I spotted it while patrolling, would make me stop and take a deeper look. However, I don't see many reverts, edit warring behavior, or anything that would indicate that this page is actively being hit with vandalism or abuse. If I'm wrong, please let me know and please point me to the diffs, users, and other information that I need to see so that I can take a look. However, given what I've seen so far, I believe that the protection level currently set is doing its job fine, and I can't consider increasing the protection level unless I see clear evidence showing otherwise.
- Please let me know if you have any questions or additional concerns, or if you'd like to discuss this further. I'll be more than happy to help. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Lil duval
I don't know who Lil Duval is nor have I accessed the Wikipedia page for that topic. I am not vandalizing Wikipedia. This IS a rotating IP address owned by Total Wireless, a cheap service plan. I suspect your culprit is a bored teenage boy. Thank you. 174.254.197.57 (talk) 16:36, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah..... This occurs often with frequently-rotated IP addresses - especially those that belong to mobile ISPs and data networks. If it wasn't you, then you can disregard the message and ignore it. If you start to receive warnings like this regularly, I'd advise creating and using an account to edit. This will avoid the issue and confusion entirely, as well as give you a number of benefits. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:06, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
You've got mail
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template. - at any time by removing the RichT|C|E-Mail 16:41, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Rich Smith! Long time no chat! I hope that you're doing well. Thanks for the email; I'll be checking and responding to those as soon as I finish responding to the rest of these messages here. You'll receive a response within a day. ;-) If it's urgent, please let me know here and I'll jump to your email first. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:08, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Way too much
Please take a look at this sort of agressive behaviour on Ivan Gundulić [1], calling out another respected senior admin [2] + calling another senior admin "a clown"[3]. and general slurs and lack of WP:Civility [4]. Please note that this is an older editor, who has previously waged a full crusade over the same issue, some 5 years ago and than again ( WP:BATTLEGROUND). Thank you, Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 17:28, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Sadko, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your concerns regarding this user's behavior and civility. I apologize for the delay responding to your message here; life has been keeping me busy, and I'm just getting caught up with all of the Wikipedia messages, emails, requests, and backlogs that have piled up since I've been away. ;-) It looks like another administrator has already investigated and taken proper action with this user. I absolutely agree that this user's behavior and incivility was absolutely unacceptable, and I would've taken the same action had I been the first admin to look into it. My user talk page is always open to you, and you are welcome to message me any time you need or want to. Please do not hesitate to message me here again if you run into any similar issues, or if I can be of any help or assistance to you, and I'll be happy to step in and lend a hand. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:51, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
MfD nomination of [REDACTED - Oshwah]
[REDACTED - Oshwah], a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User talk:'''[REDACTED - Oshwah]''']] and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of [REDACTED - Oshwah] during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Soumyabrata stay at home wash your hands to protect from coronavirus 07:11, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- Heh, thanks. I think I just happened to create it by leaving a warning. Feel free to do what you wish with it. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:52, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
I recently tagged User_talk:Bheemafoundation page for CSD G11 criteria with Twinkle, but the user talk notification about the CSD notice leads to you because you're the initial contributor of that page. I have reverted your user talk page to the previous revision. Regards, Dede2008 (talk) 13:53, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Dede2008! No worries, it happens all the time. :-) The reason that Twinkle notified me about the page deletion tagging was because I actually did create that page. ;-) This is a typical thing to have happen to users who frequently revert vandalism and disruption, and follow up with respective notices, warnings, and block notices on the user's talk page in response. In many instances, this results in the user's talk page being created by me (or someone else) when I go to leave them their first message. You'll notice this a lot with users in similar situations; it's nothing you did wrong at all... Twinkle was just notifying the user who created the page (which in most cases is completely correct), and it happened to be me. I wish Twinkle could be updated to know automatically that it should leave the CSD notice on the user talk page of the account it belongs to (instead of the page creator) if someone tags a page for deletion that belongs within that user's user space... Or at least warn us of what it found and give us the choice. ;-) Anyways, no worries, and thanks for the message. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:10, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Request to be a rollback
Hi there! Hope you good. Am kind request to you to make me a rollback, kindly approve my request. Thank you. SylvesterNzJr (talk) 14:57, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- SylvesterNzJr Hello! I think the best place to put your request is WP:RFP/R so more admins can see your request. Hope this helps! The4lines (talk) 16:45, 9 April 2020 (UTC)The4lines
- Hi SylvesterNzJr, and thanks for leaving me a message with your request. :-) As The4lines stated above, requests for permissions should be added to this page (or, in your case, the specific request page here) instead. However, I feel that I should stop you for a moment and set some expectations with you before I send you on your way.... Please, before you proceed, read what I'm about to tell you... and please take my advice and follow my recommendations. It will lead you on the best path to success here, and it will keep you away from common pitfalls, unnecessary frustration, and feelings of discouragement - which is somewhere I believe that you're headed for right now... :-/
- Looking at your account and your contributions, I can safely tell you that no administrator is going to approve of your request for rollback rights - not right now, and not with the level of experience you have. Your account is less than one week old, and you've made only 35 edits. If you look at the documented per-se requirements on the rollback guideline page, applicants who request rollback are expected to have at least 200 edits to the article space (mainspace). Not only do I require candidates I judge to have many more edits than that, I also require candidates to be able to show that they have demonstrable experience, well-established knowledge, and a consistent history of properly reverting edits that are vandalism and disruption, warning users appropriately, and reporting repeat offenders to the right noticeboard and when it's acceptable and appropriate to do so. I highly recommend that you review Wikipedia's guideline page on the rollback user right first, and that you review Wikipedia's information page on user rights and how it all works before you review that.
- And... to step you back a bit further... before you even go this far and before you even look into user rights in general and what they're about, I urge you to go through and complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial, get to a level where you understand it completely, and get into the routine of making regular edits and contributions for some time. Going even further regarding those requirements: You also need to show that you know your way around the project, and can edit, navigate, communicate, and review documentation on your own and stand on your own two feet. After all, how could anyone expect that you'll correctly identify edits as bad faith if you don't know how to cite a reference, or what a template is, or what an infobox is? ...
- I highly recommend that you go through that tutorial I linked you to, and that you revisit requesting user rights at a later time. There's a lot for you to learn first, and I feel that you'll be much more successful if you do. :-) Please let me know if you have any questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for the message, and I wish you a great day and happy editing. :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:36, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
You've got mail!
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I did not send this via the EmailUser function. It should have my username in the subject. It is regarding an OTRS ticket. Interstellarity (talk) 18:15, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Interstellarity! I saw that email, and I apologize for the delay responding to it. I'll be checking and responding to email next after I'm all caught up with responding to messages here. You should see a reply from me within the day. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:38, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
- Did you send me the email yet? Interstellarity (talk) 10:55, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Interstellarity! I did, but it was simply asking if you still needed my input and assistance with that ticket. I assume you still do, so I'll take a look at it tonight and get back to you... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:35, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Interstellarity, just letting you know that I responded to your email and updated the ticket. Please let me know if you have any questions. This is something we might have to test, assuming that what the user is saying is correct... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:56, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- I did receive your email about the ticket. Did you send an email to the user regarding this case? I don't feel comfortable doing it myself. Interstellarity (talk) 19:45, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- Interstellarity - Sure, I can do that. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:38, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- I got your email. I have just responded to it. Interstellarity (talk) 21:14, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- Interstellarity - Great, if the ticket is unlocked, I can respond and take care of him. I'll do that tomorrow. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:52, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- I got your email. I have just responded to it. Interstellarity (talk) 21:14, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- Interstellarity - Sure, I can do that. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:38, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- I did receive your email about the ticket. Did you send an email to the user regarding this case? I don't feel comfortable doing it myself. Interstellarity (talk) 19:45, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Interstellarity, just letting you know that I responded to your email and updated the ticket. Please let me know if you have any questions. This is something we might have to test, assuming that what the user is saying is correct... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:56, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Interstellarity! I did, but it was simply asking if you still needed my input and assistance with that ticket. I assume you still do, so I'll take a look at it tonight and get back to you... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:35, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- Did you send me the email yet? Interstellarity (talk) 10:55, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
You've got mail!
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Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 15:24, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- Acknowledged; I will respond to your email today. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:39, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi Oshwah. Just letting you know I've restored talk page access for Parakeetman3905 so they can make a Standard Offer unblock request, after they made a UTRS request. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:59, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Boing! said Zebedee! Sounds good to me! Thanks for the heads up. Also, welcome back!!! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:48, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks. I am only here temporarily, mind, while this lockdown thing is in force. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:03, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
- Boing! said Zebedee - I'm sorry to hear that you're only here for a short while... I've always enjoyed having you around. What's kept you from the project? Are you moving on? Or just busy? I see that you're traveling; I guess that would surely do it. ;-) Are you traveling around for fun? Work? What's going on with you?!!! lol :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:33, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
- I mentioned it a couple of months ago, but it's been archived at User talk:Boing! said Zebedee/Archive 38#Break. My temporary re-sysop is explained at Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard/Archive 43#Volunteering to help. (I do travel, for family reasons, between the UK and my wife's country, but with a computer at each place my daily life is actually pretty much unchanged.) Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 21:13, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
- Boing! said Zebedee - I'm sorry to hear that you're only here for a short while... I've always enjoyed having you around. What's kept you from the project? Are you moving on? Or just busy? I see that you're traveling; I guess that would surely do it. ;-) Are you traveling around for fun? Work? What's going on with you?!!! lol :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:33, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks. I am only here temporarily, mind, while this lockdown thing is in force. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:03, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Report a user
Hello Oshwah, hope all is well, I would like to report a certain user, User:Mr.User200, I think this user falls into the category of WP:NOTHERE, the user does not assume WP:GOODFAITH, he openly states it on his user page, he accused me of being a liar [5] in a recent edit, after repeatedly removing information and a source that contained information, I suspect goes against his agenda, he also changed wording from "cells" to "forces". The user has also been warned previously of herassment [6], and has a generally confrontational tone [7], telling a user commenting on similar activties to what I am reporting that he (Mr.User200) is going to monitor him and that he (HarimauFury) is the "last person" who "should" be commenting on the behavior, he also has a very strong anti-American and anti-Israeli point of view, which pretty clearly stated on his user page. In his last edit he removed a reliable source and changed the wording from destroyed targeted, which ignores the factually recorded event of the equipment being destroyed, as was reported by numerous news outlets with the only explanation in his edit summery being "better". While he has accused me of violating WP:3RR, he is also guilty of it by reverting my edits multiple times until I advised him to take it to the talk page of the article and to stop edit warring, and vandalising the page by removing sourced information.
Please review this user and his activites, thanks. Takinginterest01 (talk) 18:09, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Takinginterest01, and thanks for leaving me a message here regarding your concerns with Mr.User200. Looking through the diffs and links you provided, I understand how his remarks, edit summaries, and comments are causing frustration and disrepute upon you. To add some information, context, and comments to some of the links you provided: The user who started the "stalking" discussion on his user talk page here was subsequently placed on an Arbitration Committee block (or "arbcom block") due to evidence and behavior that warranted such actions - see the user's block log. On top of this, the user who started the "remark" discussion here was subsequently blocked for being a sock puppet account - see that user's logs block log here. What I believe is going on is that this user has a history and experience with identifying and reporting sock puppet accounts and users who evade their blocks in order to continue their disruptive behavior. For someone in his position, it's understandably easy for someone to make assumptions about another user and act snippy or even uncivil toward them with the belief that they're "just another sock". However, that doesn't make the behavior okay. In fact, I tell other users to refrain from snark, uncivil, non-productive, and negative comments and tone - especially if the user they're aiming these comments toward are abusive sock puppet users. If anything, the users are trolls, and behaving this way only wastes your time and gives the trolls exactly what they want - your attention, and the belief that what you're doing is working. Don't feed trolls.
- Have you tried approaching Mr.User200 directly and talking to him kindly about his behavior and asking him to stop? Have you tried discussing the matter civilly with him and making a concerted effort to work things out, shake hands, and work things out as a team? This is the direction that I need to send you first before we consider anything else. It's always best to resolve issues directly related to other people by going directly to them and talking to them first. If you make a sincere, kind, and genuine gesture on his user talk page, and if attempting to talk things out with him peacefully doesn't work, let me know and we'll take things from there. Do know that I am not excusing his behavior by making those kinds of comments toward you; I am only saying that I would understand if he believed you to be a sock puppet, and that he threw comments and edit summaries at you with that belief. Let me know how things go, and please let me know if you need my help with anything else. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:10, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Pomoc
Zdravo, dobio sam tvoju poruku da mozes da pomognes u veyi uredjivanje stranice vikipedia, pa me interesuje nacin na koji to moyes da uradis, imao bih dosta korisnih pitanja da ti postavim ali ne snalazim se dovoljno dobro sa engleskim pa ne znam da li ce goole translate biti od neke pomoci pri pisanju i odgovaranju na pitanja koja bi imao da ti postavim.Od toga kako i zato mi se prise licni profil koji bi trebao da ima za cilj validnost izvora clanaka, do toga kada neki clanak sa proverenim izvorima predstavim opet ne dobija podrsku iz ne znam kojih razloga.Najvaznije bi bilo oko toga sta drzati na stranici i kako do toga doci na koji nacin je uredjivati i pomoc oko toga.Hvala Dragan988 (talk) 19:43, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Dragan988, and thanks for the message. Using Google translate, I believe what you're asking about is the ability to create a profile? Are you perhaps talking about this page? The language you're using came back being detected as Bosnian; did you know that a Bosnian Wikipedia project exists in your language? You might find more success and help if you consider writing your article on the Bosnian Wikipedia project instead. I obviously don't speak your language, but I'll be happy to try and do my best and help you as much as I can. :-) Have you gone through and completed Wikipedia's new user tutorial? If you haven't, I highly recommend that you do this first, and before you make any more edits. It will help you greatly, and is by far the best path to success if you're new here. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:21, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
You've got mail
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- SpicyMilkBoy - Just responding to acknowledge this template notification you left. I believe I responded to your email yesterday. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:14, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Want wikipedia
Hello sir, I want my name wikipedia publish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Astaad official (talk • contribs) 06:51, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Astaad official! Have you seen or gone through Wikipedia's new user tutorial? If you haven't, I highly recommend that you do so and before you start writing content or publishing articles. It will provide you with a significant number of guided lessons and interactive walkthroughs so that you'll have a good level of basic understanding of Wikipedia, and how to navigate around the site, perform tasks, find policies and documentation, and begin writing articles. If you have any questions after completing the tutorial, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:24, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Request for deletion
I just need to request you that please delete page [REDACTED - Oshwah] as the speedy deletion criteria G6: WP:DENY or the reason "talkpage of harassment username with no meaningful talk history" just like User talk:Widr farted got deleted. Thanks. 110.225.66.226 (talk) 08:16, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) User talk:Widr farted was deleted because it harassed Widr (talk · contribs) not just because it contained a naughty word. "[REDACTED - Oshwah]" is infantile but it harasses nobody and has already been discussed at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/'''[REDACTED - Oshwah]''']].
- 110.225.66.226 (Soumya-8974 ??), WP:ADMINSHOPping isn't a good habit to get into. Cabayi (talk) 08:29, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi there!
As stated above, the page doesn't need to be deleted. It doesn't fall into a speedy deletion criterion that would allow it to be deleted without discussion.Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:16, 17 April 2020 (UTC)- I've deleted the page due to the potential visibility that this username has, and the fact that it may imply what the account's password is. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:22, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
Bushfires in Australia
Hey - I just noticed that the article has several "From 1 November 2019 to 31 January 2020" sections while I was looking at the article just now. (A student wanted to add their content, so I decided to review the article to see what they could add or fix.) This is honestly kind of confusing since I don't know if this is meant to cover several significant fires, different aspects of the same fire, or what - it looks like it stemmed from this edit, which you removed and then re-added. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:02, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Shalor (Wiki Ed)! Thanks for leaving me a message here! Yeah... I agree that this can be very confusing. I ended up expanding the content by fixing the reference supplied. If you believe it should be modified or removed, please feel free to do what you feel is needed; you don't need my blessing in order to do so. ;-) Other than the small change I made after removing and restoring the content, I don't have any major involvement or context as to what the content is trying to do... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:20, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
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Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 00:37, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- Acknowledged. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:20, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Help
Hi, How can I create information about myself at my page? Heyday to you (talk) 06:01, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Heyday to you, and welcome to Wikipedia! We have policies and guidelines that discourage the creation of articles about yourself, and user pages that are not primarily Wikipedia-related. See Wikipedia's policies on user pages (specifically, what you may not have on user pages) for more information. Remember that Wikipedia is not a social network, nor is it a means of advertising or promotion - this includes self-promotion. For Wikipedia's policies and guidelines on the creation of autobiographies and articles about yourself, see this guideline, as well as this one. You should know that article subjects must meet a level of notability in order for them to be kept. Articles that do not do so are deleted. Please let me know if you have any more questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:43, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Hello Oshwah. I think the page should be under Wikipedia:GS/COVID19. Can i add the template or only admins are allowed to do it? Puduḫepa 06:37, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Puduḫepa! Anyone is allowed to create and edit templates; there's no technical restriction preventing you from doing so. You can review Wikipedia's help page on Templates for more information. You'll often see some templates that are template-protected. This is usually due to the fact that the template is used on many articles and pages - hundreds of thousands of them - and this protection assures that it isn't vandalized or accidentally updated with erroneous code, as it would impact every single page that uses it. Please let me know if you have any more questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. Cheers, and good luck! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:49, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Stiki question.
Hello Oshwah! How are you? I had a question, on stiki I keep getting edits from 1 year ago. How do I fix this? Thanks! The4lines (talk) 19:51, 17 April 2020 (UTC)The4lines
- Hi The4lines! That's a good question. I've only used STiki maybe a couple of times, and just out of curiosity. Are these edits the latest change made to the particular page? Or are the edits that have since had newer edits made to the same page afterwards? I'd consider asking about it on the talk page for STiki to see if there's someone who might be able to help you. If those edits you're seeing aren't even the latest change to the page, I would argue that there's something wrong, as there's no point in queuing edits that have long since been replaced or updated with a newer revision made by someone else's edits.... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:54, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Can you please have a look at the talk page, user is editwaring while the discussion is ongoing. I made a RFPP request earlier also. Thanx, - FlightTime (open channel) 00:57, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi FlightTime! I responded to Matthew Mangold on his user talk page (which edit-conflicted with yours). If the edit warring continues, please let me know and I'll apply a partial block on the user for a few days. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:03, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. Can you revert the article to before the issue. - FlightTime (open channel) 01:05, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- FlightTime - If it violates a Wikipedia policy, sure, I can do that. If this is a content-related issue, it would be better if I held off and had someone else do it. If I have to intervene and protect the article or block the user for edit warring (if it continues), it wouldn't look so good on my part if I reverted the user's changes immediately beforehand. I don't want put myself in a position of appearing involved in a dispute and using my admin tools to resolve the matter. Doing so could present that image. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:11, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
mimi keene picture
Hi I am a big fan of Mimi's and I was wondering if you could use a nicer picture of her? I have included a link to a better one. I watched a show about her 'school for stars' bbc1 and they clearly stated she lives in London.
mimi in vogue or maybe this picture?
Not sure if you could help, but I always feel sad when I see the wiki picture of mimi.
xxx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.88.60.115 (talk) 02:19, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi there, and thanks for the message! Unfortunately, adding an image to an article is not as simple as finding it on Google and then throwing it on the page... There are many things that must be taken into consideration when searching for and using images, the biggest and most important being copyright and licensing. We absolutely must make sure that any and all images that we use on Wikipedia are done so with permission by the image's creator or publisher. We of course don't go around explicitly asking for permission to use each and every image on Wikipedia that needs such; Instead, we review the copyright status of each image, as well as the license that the image's owner has given for it. We also have to follow other guidelines and procedures when searching for images to use, and you can review them by visiting Wikipedia's image use policy page. Please let me know if you have any questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:18, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
chuck butler page changes
I made changes to update to current information — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:484:c500:220:601f:b9eb:1b07:b3e7 (talk) 03:01, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- Did you cite sources that were reliable? ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:53, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
About the recent changes made to The Witcher TV Series page
I understand that my edit may not be as "Neutral" as some would expect . I was only trying to point out the obvious .Anyway i think i could make my edit more pleasing to every different set of individuals ,But i don't think you should stop me from pointing out the obvious~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.83.56.184 (talk) 03:22, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi there. Please know that Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy is very important to the integrity and accuracy of the encyclopedia. We cannot add opinions, commentary, bias, or unbalanced sides of an argument. Please review the policy and let me know if you have any questions. :-) Thanks - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:54, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Indian Reunification
I think you were hasty in placing an indefinite extended user requirement on the Indian reunification page. The changes that I made were actually quite minor and very reasonable. For example, instead of calling at the potential reunification, I called a theoretical reunification. This is because potential implies that there is some sort of possibility or plan that this may occur. However, this is not a plan that is seriously discussed by either side, and therefore it is better terms a theoretical proposal. Furthermore, the article is indeed written like an essay with several paragraphs discussing which writer said what, and so I appropriately tagged it as such (which is pretty benign tag - it’s not like put a “neutrality disputed” tag) This page is not really part of the India Pakistan conflict as something like Kashmir. This is just a theoretical concepts, and shouldn’t fall under the rubric of indo-pak conflict. Bc again, it’s a theory and not a conflict. I had discussed this on the talk page, but a user Aman.kumar.goel framed my comments as edit war/vandalism, and I think you took that complain at face value. I’d encourage you to look at the changes I made, and if you sincerely think I was unreasonable, then so be it.174.193.196.108 (talk) 06:59, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi there, and thank you for reaching out to me with your thoughts and concerns. The protection was applied to the article following consensus by the community that users with less than 30 days tenure and 500 edits are prohibited from editing articles related to any conflict between India and Pakistan. You can view the discussion by clicking here. You're certainly still allowed to contribute to the article; you just can't edit it directly. All you need to do in order to have edits and changes published to the article on your behalf is create an edit request on the article's talk page. Someone will review it and make the changes for you (assuming no issues are found with the changes). I'm sorry that I had to protect the article, but this action reflects community consensus following a discussion and in response to repeated issues that have occurred with articles related to the conflict between India and Pakistan. Again, you're still able to contribute to the article. You just have to create edit requests in order to do so. Please let me know if you have any questions or additional concerns, and I'll be happy to help you further. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:59, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Blocking of a new user
I see you have blocked a new user due to advertising on platform but I can't see anything yet User:Marvelgeospatial Tbiw (talk) 20:01, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Tbiw! The account created a user page advertising a website, which happens to be the account's username. The reason you don't see any contributions by this user is because the page was deleted. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:05, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Cristina ferrare
I am her daughter, the person she disowned, how shall I prove it. What more of a reliable source could there be? Flubulous (talk) 20:34, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Flubulous, two things. First, Wikipedia only wants information reported in reliable sources, especially for biographies of living people, and you are not a reliable source. Second, we don't have any way of knowing that you are in fact her daughter, and so we can't take your word for it. creffett (talk) 20:41, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Flubulous, I concur with my colleague above. A cornerstone of Wikipedia is verifiability, which is why we need for content to be attributed to reliable sources. El_C 20:45, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
I offered to prove who I was with a license and a birth certificate. She disowned us, we just dont want to be associated with her. What you are saying is I need to take out a newspaper article for you to believe me. But I dont care that much. Open any of her cookbooks, go to her webpages, we dont exist. There is your source. Again, I just don't have it in me.
- Flubulous, sorry to hear about your misfortune, but proving a negative is not a reasonable operating assumption. El_C 20:56, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- As an addendum to what El_C said: if a fact has not been covered in reliable sources, it probably does not belong in a Wikipedia article in the first place, and that goes double for biographies - saying that someone has disowned their child is a pretty clear case of "contentious material" (and, in fact, could be considered defamatory if untrue), and unsourced contentious material has no place in biographies. I am sorry to hear about your situation, but we really can't have the article make a claim like that without a reliable source. creffett (talk) 21:31, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- Creffett, El C - Thank you both for responding to this message while I was AFK. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:05, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Regarding Kate Upton page
Hi, Oshwah I have placed a temporary extended protection request at WP:RPP due to heavy spamming and WP:VAND. Please review. Thank you. Amkgp (talk) 20:43, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Amkgp! Thanks for the heads up. Both of the users involved with adding disruption to the article have been blocked. If you see any more accounts, please let me know and I'll take another look. I'd rather leave the page semi-protected if I can. This way, if there are more spam accounts that exist, they'll be caught and blocked as soon as they modify the article. Otherwise, they'll either edit somewhere else that we're not watching, or be saved to be used another day... ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:47, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, you are right. I came across the spamming as a part of completing assignments at WP:CVUA. I will certainly report if I come across such users. Thank you. Amkgp (talk) 20:53, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- Amkgp - No worries, and yes please do! :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:09, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, you are right. I came across the spamming as a part of completing assignments at WP:CVUA. I will certainly report if I come across such users. Thank you. Amkgp (talk) 20:53, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Regarding spamming at Trevor Noah
Hi, Oshwah while performing WP:RPC, I found Manlyhuh2 spamming at Trevor Noah page. Proofs [8] and [9]. Also placed a temporary semi-protection WP:RPP. Please review. Thank you. Amkgp (talk) 21:44, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Amkgp! The user has been blocked, and another admin has applied temporary semi-protection to the article. You're all set! :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:10, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Edit filter re this edit
Hello Oshwah / WP:TPS,
An edit filter has been detected that I was warned about adding the "use of deprecated (unreliable) source". I'm not sure what was going on there as I looked down the difference between revisions where I made the later edit and there was nothing about adding a source to the page. It's not very often that I trigger edit filters but apparently I've triggered filter 869 twice. I must have done something to trigger this filter. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 21:55, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Iggy the Swan! It looks like your changes were just enough to make the filter believe that your edit generated a match for one of its conditions. This typically happens because of the wide amount of text that is included with the change in content and what exactly was "modified" with your edit. For example, take a look at the details for your edit in this log here. If you scroll down to the bottom of the log page and locate the text captured for the "edit_diff", "new_wikitext", "old_wikitext", "added_lines", and "removed_lines", you'll see that a lot of content is included in this data, even though you only replaced a few dashes with the longer ones. This can sometimes cause content that you otherwise didn't really touch to be included in "what was changed", and will sometimes trigger an abuse filter hit. There have been times where I've gone and fixed a ref template and URL, and due to the changes I made that now made it formatted correctly, it registered the change as if I added it to the article - hence, an edit filter hit is logged. I wouldn't worry about it too much; if you're making good changes and in good faith, people are going to see that when they review the filter logs, and nobody is going to go after you for it... ;-) Please let me know if you have any more questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:20, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- It must have been this random Daily Mail text that caused the edit filter to trigger per edit filter details. What I've seen was some unpaired tag in that part of the text. I'd checked the source to see that it exists but the tagging of the nowiki must have caused it as nothing else like nbsp; and reducing spaces etc. does not do anything bad. As what edit filter watchers are concentrating on other bad editing, I have not been warned about any of the auto warnings on my talk page so far.
- In 2018, I was also warned about the description "Warning against clipboard hijacking" but unlike yesterday's warning, I'd figured out the mistake I made and fixed that before moving on. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 20:43, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- Iggy the Swan - Interesting. Like I said, I wouldn't worry about it. :-) I've accidentally tripped filters while cleaning up vandalism or removing abuse from an LTA. It happens, and those who are familiar with the abuse filter and their logs should also be familiar with identifying false positive hits. ;-) Let me know if you have any additional questions or concerns, and I'll be happy to help you further. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:10, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
your note re my change in the Wyatt Earp entry
You say you restored something I deleted. It's been a while. What was it? Was it the remark about Earp having "escaped from jail"? Actually there is no proof that he did that at all. The latest information from the Wild West History Association of scholars is that the case was simply dropped against him. SOme of what he's accused of by the Texas-based anti-Earp crowd is true, but much isn't. Rumor is not fact.
I have been a Wyatt Earp scholar for twenty years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.20.106.69 (talk) 23:42, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi there! The notice that I left you points to this edit that removed content without explaining the reason for doing so using the edit summary. Honestly, it was three years ago. I'm not worried about it, and I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:57, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Reverted edit on Bucks New University
You reverted my edit on Bucks New University, saying I did not cite a source. I did not need to cite a new source, as the rankings table immediately next to my paragraph was the source for my statement. The paragraph as it stands is misleadingly complimentary towards that university's academic standards (I had been linked to the Wikipedia article from an article on the worst universities in Britain). 82.1.109.96 (talk) 23:42, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi there! Ah, okay, thank you for letting me know. So long as the content is referenced, that's what's most important. Feel free to restore the content if you believe it to be accurate and true. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:58, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
why
why is my page deleted — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rjm.is.the.king (talk • contribs) 00:45, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
except my article has nothong to do with what your talking about — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rjm.is.the.king (talk • contribs) 00:47, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Rjm.is.the.king, and welcome to Wikipedia! Please accept my apologies for the delayed response to your messages here. Life has been keeping me busy. :-) Your user page was deleted due to being obvious self-promotion about yourself. Please keep in mind and remember that Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion, nor is Wikipedia a social network. User pages are expected to be primarily Wikipedia-focused, and follow the policies and guidelines regarding user pages (specifically, what is not allowed on user pages). Please review these policies and guidelines, and let me know if you have any questions about them. I'll be more than happy to answer your questions and help you. Thanks again for the message, and I wish you a great day and happy editing. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:16, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
Continuation of "Request for deletion"
[REDACTED - Oshwah] falls in to CSD G6. So do delete that page into G6: WP:DENY. 182.64.46.23 (talk) 10:57, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- Comment: That is a silly username to have on Wikipedia. Literally anyone could get into the account if the password matches. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 20:46, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- I agree, and it's for this reason that I went ahead and deleted the page. I've also redacted the addition of all links to the page from here. This may imply what the user account's password is, and for this reason, it needs to be hidden. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:28, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
No subject
PLease show me how to write as I am first time user --Laqy-peenu (talk) 11:47, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Laqy-peenu! Welcome to Wikipedia! Have you gone through and completed Wikipedia's new user tutorial? If not, I highly recommend that you do so. It will provide you with many helpful walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and other information that will be very helpful to you (including how to write your first article). Most users who take this advice and complete the tutorial tell me later that it was significantly helpful to them and saved them hours of time and frustration they would've experienced otherwise. Please let me know if I can help you with anything else, and I'll be more than happy to do so. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:30, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
simple:User:Thegooduser/templates/talkarchivelistbox
can you fix the search box there so it works? --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 21:17, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - What exactly is wrong with it? What isn't working correctly? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:31, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
- I stole the search box from you and it does not work --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 20:32, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - This archive search box works by searching through User:Thegooduser/talkpagearchives/ on the Simple English Wikipedia. But you first need to have archives created in sub-pages under that location. For example, saving March 2020's archives under User:Thegooduser/talkpagearchives/March 2020 will work. Then, you use this search box to locate pages that start with User:Thegooduser/talkpagearchives/ and match the search words you enter. It looks fine; you just need to have stuff in the right location first before it'll start working... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:37, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks! Man I am barely active here on en-wiki anymore, I am now on simple wiki... Haven't talked to you in a long time? I still am not able to resolve my virtual box issue... It said secure boot needs to be turned off --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 20:42, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - This archive search box works by searching through User:Thegooduser/talkpagearchives/ on the Simple English Wikipedia. But you first need to have archives created in sub-pages under that location. For example, saving March 2020's archives under User:Thegooduser/talkpagearchives/March 2020 will work. Then, you use this search box to locate pages that start with User:Thegooduser/talkpagearchives/ and match the search words you enter. It looks fine; you just need to have stuff in the right location first before it'll start working... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:37, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
- I stole the search box from you and it does not work --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 20:32, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
Request to downgrade protection: Howard Finkel
Hello, I'd like to request the protection on Howard Finkel be downgraded from full to semi. The offending edits concerning the cause of Finkel's recent death were made by IPs or non-autoconfirmed accounts. Thanks, —KuyaBriBriTalk 14:07, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
- Reposted at WP:RFUP. —KuyaBriBriTalk 16:18, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Kuyabribri! Sorry for being so late to the party here... It looks like you've related your request to the page protection requests noticeboard; if the issues or disruption are still ongoing, let me know and I'll be happy to take a look. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:39, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
Request for Documentation per ArbCom
Per Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/India-Pakistan#Log_of_blocks_and_bans, please add Indian reunification to the current Arbitration enforcement log. Buffs (talk) 15:14, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Buffs! Done. Thanks for the heads up; I'm not sure how I managed to overlook doing that... :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:42, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
Similar names
Some strange usernames which are similar to yours or uses a same sequence of letters is something that is easily noticeable e.g. today's incarnation. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 19:50, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Iggy the Swan! Yeah..... That's something that I'm, unfortunately, used to seeing and have happen to me. Not the first time; won't be the last time... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:45, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
A deletion of yours
Hi, yesterday you deleted [REDACTED - Oshwah] under G6, even though it was kept at [REDACTED - Anarchyte]. Just giving you the heads up given no one tagged it for deletion for G6 after the discussion. Anarchyte (talk • work) 05:59, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Anarchyte. The reason I deleted it was to limit its visibility. This username appears to give the password to their own account, something that is normally suppressed when found. What are your thoughts given this information? Should I restore it, or leave it as deleted? Let me know... I'm on the fence with this whole thing, and I'm not sure what the best course of action is... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:01, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm also on the fence about the whole thing too (I've also redacted the MfD now that you know what I'm talking about). I say leave it deleted but add a comment under the MfD or something so that people know why it's deleted. As it stands, all the logs are gone so any non-admins wanting to know why their !vote at MfD was overruled are left confused. Anarchyte (talk • work) 06:08, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Note that the IP that contacted you was adminshopping; just thought I'd let you know. Here's my archive. Anarchyte (talk • work) 06:10, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, Anarchyte. I've left a comment on the MfD, and I'll leave it deleted for now. Yeah, I remember someone responding to that IP user and stating such. Oh well; the important thing is that the right action is taken... Thanks again for the message and the heads up. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:38, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
You removed my Leicester message
You removed “Leicester are the best “from my recent edit to you I think you have made a mistake please may you revert your mistake thank you And as well you also remove my recent comment asking to have a semi professional account please — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxed8 (talk • contribs) 11:37, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
User:Sarthak Pokharel Official deletion
Hi, you suppressed the deletion of User:Sarthak Pokharel Official. I'm trying to figure out whether I should block them for having a promotional username. Without saying too much, would blocking them be the right call? Anarchyte (talk • work) 12:03, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Anarchyte! Without revealing any information, I'd say that the username most likely isn't promotional. Unless the user starts editing pages that unambiguously show otherwise, I'd leave it be. :-) Let me know if I can help with anything else, and I'll be happy to do so. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:09, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Extremely liberal use of RevDel
I'd like to know why you deleted 80+ revisions on here recently, because of how large that number is. InvalidOStalk 12:16, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi InvalidOS! There were messages and requests for deletion added to my user talk here that gave links to a user page where the account's username stated their password. This is normally suppressed due to the nature of the information. I had to redact those links and rev del the revisions in order to keep visibility to it as low as possible. Please let me know if you have any more questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:19, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Why?
No mean to be rude or disrespectful, but why did you delete my user page?RichDiamondPlayz (talk) 17:44, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi RichDiamondPlayz, and welcome to Wikipedia! We have policies and guidelines that mandate what is and is not allowed on user pages. See Wikipedia's policies on user pages (specifically, what you may not have on user pages) for more information. Your issue was that it contained content that was not primarily Wikipedia-related (you talking about your YouTube channel). Remember that Wikipedia is not a social network, nor is it a means of advertising or promotion - this includes self-promotion. Since your user page did contain some content that was acceptable and Wikipedia-related, I went ahead and restored your user page for you and removed the problematic content. I apologize if my deletion caused any frustration or confusion. Please let me know if you have any more questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:47, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- How do I add user boxes and add myself to wiki projects? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RichDiamondPlayz (talk • contribs) 17:59, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- RichDiamondPlayz - You can visit this page for a list of user boxes that you can add to your user page, and you can visit this page for help with searching for a project you're interested in and how you can join a project. Since you're brand new to Wikipedia, I highly recommend that you go through and complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial before you make any edits or take on any major tasks around here. It will provide you with many helpful walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and other information that will be very helpful to you. Most users who take this advice and complete the tutorial tell me later that it was significantly helpful to them and saved them hours of time and frustration they would've experienced otherwise. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:01, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- How do I add user boxes and add myself to wiki projects? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RichDiamondPlayz (talk • contribs) 17:59, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) RichDiamondPlayz, If I'm correct I also remember seeing you at Simple English Wikipedia, Please note that the same rules about user pages apply there. Thanks --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 23:58, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
Bruh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxed8 (talk • contribs) 19:48, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Alqosh
Some editors are keen on re-adding unsourced information. Can you take a look when you have time?[10] --Semsûrî (talk) 21:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Semsûrî! I went ahead and reverted the last edit made by Alextheedmond and warned the user for adding unsourced content to that article. I generally don't apply page protection to an article or page due to the disruptive editing by only one user (unless major sock puppetry is involved, of course). At this level, we should be educating, warning, or blocking the user instead of restricting the ability for all accounts of that level from being able to edit the article. If this user continues to add unsourced content to the article, please let me know and I'll be happy to take care of it. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:58, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Need help
Hello Oshwah,
I have put myself in a difficult situation on Wikipedia. Editors on Talk:Main_Page#Requested_move_22_April_2020 have accused me of disruptive editing. I don't quite understand what I did that was disruptive. I understand that disruptive editing can lead me being in trouble on Wikipedia. I was in this situation before (see my block log). I'm not quite sure how to respond to this situation. Should I do nothing? Should I apologize for my actions? Your input is appreciated. Interstellarity (talk) 21:51, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Interstellarity! I took a look at the discussion for you. While what you're proposing doesn't make 100% sense to me (I only glanced though it without looking into your proposal in-depth), the reason that the participants in this discussion are expressing frustration and annoyance toward you is because of the fact that you've re-proposed the same idea and opened the same discussion more than two times over the last two weeks (making a total of three times over the last three weeks) and when things have not changed since the previous discussion before it (according to some of the participants). This can, understandably, cause some frustration with those who frequently participate in discussions like this. If you want my recommendation as to how to make this right, I would apologize to everyone in the discussion and state that you understand that your repeated re-creation of these discussions is causing frustration, I would withdraw your proposal so that the discussion can be immediately closed, and I would seek individual input and wait until quite some time has passed and significant changes made before proposing the idea again. :-) Just apologize, commit to doing the right thing, and follow through with it... You'll be okay! Just don't repeat the same behavior. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:14, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) Hi Interstellarity, I've been in a similar situation at WT:OS before, proposing to rename the members of the "oversight" group to "oversighters". That didn't cause positive reactions.
- Closing a request that you have started yourself can lead to criticism, and closing a "requested move" discussion isn't as easy as clicking a single button. Especially when you're uncertain, the easiest way to deal with the situation could be adding a message below the discussion, without a bullet point, that says something like "I'm sorry, I have misinterpreted the reasons for the previous rejection. I withdraw this request."
- The page WP:RMCI contains technical advice, but an unbureaucratic withdrawal message below the discussion may well be sufficient.
- Best regards,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:23, 22 April 2020 (UTC)- Edit conflict: Oshwah was faster ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:23, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- I have closed the discussion and left a note in the closing statement. What I was trying to do is to either rename the Main Page itself to Main page or rename the sidebar link from sentence case to title case. The discussion for this one is here. As of April 22, there doesn't seem to be a consensus to rename the sidebar link. I hope this explanation helps and hopefully I handled the situation OK. Interstellarity (talk) 22:29, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- (@Interstellarity: looks fine to me, no worries!) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:35, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Interstellarity - You did what many users on Wikipedia have a difficult time with doing, and what many users out-right refuse to ever do... which is seek help and feedback when you're aware that you're causing frustration but not sure why. You also owned up to your actions and mistakes, apologized, and committed to make things right and improve your actions and edits moving forward. That's a great and humbling skill to have that's unfortunately becoming less and less common to see around here. We all make mistakes; we're human, mistakes happen, and there's nothing we can do about that. It's what you do in response to those mistakes that separate you from the others and what others truly see in the end. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you Oshwah and ToBeFree for helping me. There are some users that make mistakes, but don't care and some end up getting blocked. There are some that that realize their mistakes, but not sure what to do about it. I have truly proved that back in January 2019 when I was unblocked, that my heart was in the right place. I'm confident that if I continue doing what I'm doing, I will make this encyclopedia a better place and never be blocked again. I hope you both are doing well during this pandemic and you are staying healthy. :-) Interstellarity (talk) 22:59, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- I have closed the discussion and left a note in the closing statement. What I was trying to do is to either rename the Main Page itself to Main page or rename the sidebar link from sentence case to title case. The discussion for this one is here. As of April 22, there doesn't seem to be a consensus to rename the sidebar link. I hope this explanation helps and hopefully I handled the situation OK. Interstellarity (talk) 22:29, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Edit conflict: Oshwah was faster ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:23, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Untitled header
Hello, it was my mistake that i didn't explain why i made these changes and i apologize for that. The problem is that the the sourches at this point are contradictory between them (stats are very different). Also, according to https://www.gazzetta.gr/article/521539/ti-elavan-oles-oi-omades-sto-opadopsifisma-pics Panathinaikos is the most popular greek team. So i decide to follow whatever greek wikipaidia say about that : "According to researches and polls, Panathinaikos is one of the most popular football team in Greece. The club has million of fans inside Greece and millions of others in the [[Greek diaspora". I hope that i was clear and you will restore the changes that i have made. Thank you very much for your advice and sorry for my mistake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kosths (talk • contribs) 22:04, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Kosths, and thanks for leaving me a message regarding your edit and for explaining what happened. You're of course able to restore the edit by visiting the article, clicking on the "History" tab, and clicking on "undo" to revert the removal I made. Just make sure that you've cited reliable sources with your changes. Please let me know if I can answer any questions or help you with anything else, and I'll be more than happy to do so. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:44, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Half Barnstar | |
I was looking for a barnstar you haven't received yet and have hopefully found one that even fits the situation. Per it's description text, it is awarded for excellence in cooperation. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:04, 22 April 2020 (UTC) |
- Hi ToBeFree! Thank you for the barnstar and for the very kind words! I appreciate it very much, and I'm glad to have you around as a fellow member of the community! Keep up the great work! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:54, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Discussion at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/108.30.170.140
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/108.30.170.140. The edits are the same as the user you just blocked. can you take a look? {{u|wylie39}} {Talk}
00:45, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- Wylie39 - Sure, easy peasy. I've blocked 170.146.220.0/23 as well as Soccerboy17. If any more IP users continue to disrupt this article, let me know and (if the users are coming from this range) I'll extend the range block. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:51, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Padlock Barnstar | |
Thnx for protecting Great Chicago Fire and blocking those vandals. Jerm (talk) 01:16, 23 April 2020 (UTC) |
- Jerm! Thanks for the barnstar! I appreciate it very much, and it means a lot to me! I was purposefully leaving it open for a bit to see how much would flood in, but as soon as another range came driving by, I knew it was time to lock the gates. ;-) If you need anything else, you know where to find me. :-) Thanks again, and cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:53, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
Page protected by you 24 hours ago vandalized
Hi! 24 hours ago I made a request that you assisted with, locking the page of Jeremy Soule . However a few hours ago a user (and persistent disruptive editor) came in and altered the page, even though it was protected. Furthermore the reason for their change violates wikipedia's bios of living persons policy. Wondering if I could use your help properly protect the page. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.202.132.71 (talk) 07:58, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi there! Thanks for messaging me about this. The edits you're referring to is in relation to a content-related dispute, not an issue of vandalism, bad-faith editing, or maliciously violating Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy. The content is referenced and in compliance with the important aspects of the BLP policy, and the two discussions on the article's talk page show that no consensus has been reached regarding whether or not the content about the allegations should be included. So long as the editing doesn't become a war, I'm inclined to leave the article as-is. If it does, the proper action to take per Wikipedia's protection policy would be to fully-protect the article. I'll keep eyes on it, and I'm sure that other administrators are doing the same. However, as of the time of this writing, I don't have cause or reason to protect the article right now. Thanks again for the message. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:20, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
April 2020
Just a question, do you think the word tackle sounds funny to you? NicholasHui (talk) 22:57, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- NicholasHui - There are many words that, when I stop to think about them, their sound, and pronunciation - are funny to me in a way. Why is "plastic" called "plastic"? Why not "oisha" or something else? Etymology of words is a deep, deep, rabbit hole of history... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:01, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- It's from Latin, which borrowed their word plasticus, "capable of being shaped", from a Greek word that meant "to mold". look, you start saying things about etymology, you have to expect linguists to emerge from the surrounding shrubberies! Or in other words: This is a job for... Etymology Man! --bonadea contributions talk 09:16, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Bonadea - HA! That's awesome! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:17, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- It's from Latin, which borrowed their word plasticus, "capable of being shaped", from a Greek word that meant "to mold". look, you start saying things about etymology, you have to expect linguists to emerge from the surrounding shrubberies! Or in other words: This is a job for... Etymology Man! --bonadea contributions talk 09:16, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
No subject
Hello,
I want to create a wikipedia page for my NGO which works with and for single parents in India. I havent understood the message that you sent to me. Kindly explain.
Thank you
Tran Life (talk) 10:27, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Tran Life, and welcome to Wikipedia! I don't believe that I've sent you any messages before, but I'll be happy to answer your questions here and help you. :-) It appears that you have a conflict of interest with the subject that you're trying to create an article for. This conflict of interest is problematic, as your possible relationship with this subject makes it nearly impossible to create an article and write content about them while remaining completely within compliance of Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy. It's for these reasons that we heavily and highly discourage the act of creating an article about a subject that you have any kind of conflict of interest with. Also, if you're being paid or compensated in any way to edit Wikipedia, you must disclose this information by following these directions. The best way to have an article written about this subject is to request one. If the article subject is notable enough to have its own article, editors who don't have a conflict of interest with this subject will, without a doubt, be able and willing to write one. Since you're brand new to Wikipedia, I highly recommend that you go through and complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial before you make any edits or take on any major tasks around here. It will provide you with many helpful walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and other information that will be very helpful to you. Most users who take this advice and complete the tutorial tell me later that it was significantly helpful to them and saved them hours of time and frustration they would've experienced otherwise. Please let me know if you have any more questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:35, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
ACC User
Hey Oshwah, we chatted a while ago about my joining the ACC team (I can't apply through ACI due to an initial error); however I never got an outcome from that, and got busy enough off wiki that I stopped annoying you about it :P. Any chance that you wouldn't mind looking into it again? Cheers, --Jack Frost (talk) 11:39, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Jack Frost! I apologize for the delayed response to your message here. Life has been keeping me busy as well. ;-) Sure, I'll be happy to do that for you. I'll put your request on my to-do list for sometime today or tomorrow, and I'll take a look at your ACC account status, any admin discussions that may have occurred, and nudge the admin team if the process is at a standstill somewhere. What error did you get exactly when you tried to apply? If you've applied before by creating an ACC account and going through the process, we'll have that account still - the system will spit back at you if you try to create the same account again. I'll just need to message the ACC admin team that you're re-applying so that they know, and I'll get back to you with any information, instructions, or updates. I apologize again for letting your request sit in limbo like this; I strongly dislike taking someone's request for my input, help, or actions and letting them fall through the cracks and without following completely through on them. I'll make sure that we get you down the right process. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:44, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Oshwah, I get the 'non-identified' error; which I now definitely am. Thanks, Jack Frost (talk) 05:46, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Jack Frost! I just checked the ACC site, and it looks like you've been approved as a ACC tool user! Welcome! I'm glad that you've joined and that you're a member of the project now! Please let me know if you have any questions of if you need help or if I can guide you with anything - I'll be more than happy to do so. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:30, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hey Oshwah, thank you for your help! Jack Frost (talk) 11:32, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Jack Frost - You bet; always happy to help! ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:33, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hey Oshwah, thank you for your help! Jack Frost (talk) 11:32, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Jack Frost! I just checked the ACC site, and it looks like you've been approved as a ACC tool user! Welcome! I'm glad that you've joined and that you're a member of the project now! Please let me know if you have any questions of if you need help or if I can guide you with anything - I'll be more than happy to do so. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:30, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Oshwah, I get the 'non-identified' error; which I now definitely am. Thanks, Jack Frost (talk) 05:46, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Publication of an article
Hi friend, I wrote a new one, to speed up the process I decided to write to you, please check friend https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Draft:Sergey_Skolskiy Spectr01 (talk) 19:21, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Spectr01! I'm sorry for taking so long to respond to your message and your request for me to take a look at the draft page you started. Life has been keeping me busy lately. ;-) It looks like you've requested the page to be deleted, which was completed under G7 of Wikipedia's speedy deletion criteria. Is there a particular reason that you asked for it to be deleted? I'm more than happy to help you with anything that you need; please don't hesitate to ask. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:46, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Request
I need to request you that please delete the revision [11] as RD3 as that revision was purely disruptive or delete as the reason WP:RD2 as it also violates a biography of a living person or delete as the reason "Vandalism" because that revision is not supposed to be visible. Thanks. 182.64.35.247 (talk) 06:44, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
- 182.64.35.247 I advise you to email Oshwah or a another admin, as if it is revdel materaial people could still see it here. The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (You Want To Know?) 15:28, 29 April 2020 (UTC)The4lines
- Hi there, and thanks for the message! The edit that you provided is not eligible for revision deletion because does not meet the required criteria.
- For a revision or diff to be "grossly insulting, degrading, or offensive material" (RD2), it has to be maliciously-added content that's intended to be abusive, and to the level that it would reasonably cause either most readers who are directly targeted by the abusive content (such as a certain race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc), or most general readers (regardless of their association), to feel offended or disgusted by it. For content to be a "serious BLP violation", it has to be unreferenced or poorly referenced content regarding a living or recently-deceased person that's highly contentious in nature that, if it were to hypothetically be true for any similar person with the same notability and publicity, would directly impact their social standing with society or a typical general audience. For example, if someone adds "[this person] was caught cheating on their spouse on five different occasions" to a BLP article and without a reference, this would be something that violates Wikipedia's BLP policy, and would be considered something serious enough that, if it were to be true for someone similar, cause them to be thought of more negatively by society or by a significant percentage of typical people. That would be eligible for revision deletion under RD2.
- For a revision to be "purely disruptive", it has to be maliciously disruptive and to the level that it causes significant impact upon readers, is a blatant policy violation, or detracts readers greatly from the project and its core values. Examples of content that would be "purely disruptive material" include threats of harm made toward Wikipedia readers or editors, allegations or harassment made toward editors and readers, links to websites that attempt to phish, offend, scam, or cause extreme hardship onto the victim and/or the security of their device or their browser (links to sites that contain or distribute viruses, malicious HTML or code, browser-crashing exploits, shock pages with grossly offensive content, content that's intended to disparage its intended subject or call upon their readers to harass them, or content that is illegal or violates US Federal and/or international laws), and other content that is to this level. Spam links are not considered "purely disruptive" simply because they're spam - it must fall under the examples above in order to be eligible for RD3.
- I hope this response helps to clear things up and explain the common criteria that eligible content will fall under. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Normally, I would ask that you email me requests for revision deletion instead of posting them here, but anonymous users don't have access to that functionality; you'd have to create an account in order to do so. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:11, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
A bowl of strawberries for you!
I have joined the Oshwah fanclub and I would like to know where our ceremonial robes are. puggo (talk) 15:32, 29 April 2020 (UTC) |
- Hi Bug2266 - They're in my special ceremonial robe walk-in closet, of course! ;-) Thanks for the strawberries, and please accept my apologies for the delay responding to your very kind message here. Welcome to the "fan club" (I guess there's a fan club? lol...), and I hope you enjoy your stay! ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:14, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Monday wasn't a good day
Do you remember this thread? Just wanting to know how the hell do you manage to kill your SSD? --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 23:44, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Thegooduser! After a quick search of my archives, yes I indeed do! The SSD had issues that were caused either by a design flaw or a problem in the manufacturing process. It was caused by the manufacturer and I'm pretty sure that the issue impacted the entire production of that particular model (It was a Neutron XT model from Corsair), or at least a significant number of them. I had my Neutron XT SDD replaced three different times under warranty within the span of only a few months apart, and because each one ended up going through the exact same issue - it would suddenly "break" in a way where I could read from it just fine and use it without hurting any of the data, but I couldn't write or save any data to it - it either wouldn't write at all, or it would disappear when the drive was shut off or lost power. After they replaced my SSD a third time and when that one broke, they replaced it with a Neutron XTi model of the same capacity and specs (which I assume was made to rebrand and replace the Neutron XT because of their issues). I've had that Neutron XTi SSD ever since and I haven't had a problem with it... So they indeed found and fixed the problem! ;-) I might be removing that drive soon and putting it into another workstation that I own. I've since bought an M.2 SSD that's much faster, and I have an instance of Windows 10 on each one. I've slowly migrated to the new drive and made sure that the new copy of Windows 10 works and has all the settings and data I want and need, and I'm to the point where I can probably just retire that old copy. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:52, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- I use a san disk 3d 512 GB ssd, are those good? --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 15:16, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- So long as the SSD performs DRAM caching, it'll be fine. And I'm sure that Sandisk will have that on their line of SSDs. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:09, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Oh I asked a question at WP:RD/C about my oem win 10 hdd, could you help me there? --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 17:07, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- I can try... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:52, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Oh I asked a question at WP:RD/C about my oem win 10 hdd, could you help me there? --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 17:07, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- So long as the SSD performs DRAM caching, it'll be fine. And I'm sure that Sandisk will have that on their line of SSDs. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:09, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi, Oshwah! Am I correct to suppose you meant 'the span of only a few months', not 'the spam'...? --(talk page stalker) CiaPan (talk) - friendly but sometimes nitpicking, at 17:22, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- CiaPan - Aww, damnit! Good find! Fixed. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:53, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- I use a san disk 3d 512 GB ssd, are those good? --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 15:16, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
U.S. Army and CIA interrogation manuals revert
Hi. You deleted one my edits to the U.S. Army and CIA interrogation manuals page. I simply provided summary information in the introductory paragraph, for clarification and easy of use, that is discussed in detail and cited later in that same article. You suggested that the very relevant and helpful clarifying phrase should be deleted because it lacked citation. Your reasoning is unsound. If info in the intro is well documented in subsequent sections, it is perfectly legitimate to summarize it in the intro. The intro should not be overburdened, but provide the reader a quick and easy overview. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RH Swearengin (talk • contribs) 17:55, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Hello RH Swearengin, I think the issue here is that you said that the manuals were "also known as the KUBARK torture manuals," but that name isn't mentioned anywhere else in the article, so it definitely needs a citation. creffett (talk) 18:01, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi RH Swearengin! I agree; If I removed content that you added to the summary paragraph of an article because it wasn't cited, but it was actually cited within the body of the article - you did nothing wrong, and I apologize for removing it. Please feel free to restore that content if what you're saying is indeed the case. Creffett appears to disagree, and he/she believes that the content does need a source. Regardless, if it was a mistake on my part, please accept my apologies. If you need my assistance with reviewing that content for issues, please let me know and I'll be happy to help. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:56, 13 May 2020 (UTC)