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This article is over-represented because it mostly talks about the past of this commune instead of talking about how this commune is doing at the moment. It is underrepresented in describing exactly where this commune is located. It says where this commune can be found but it does not describe what you can find in every part of those communes. All of the citations that are on this article are not very reliable. That is, there are book references so you cannot be sure that they exist as it does not give you a link to the citations. This is why you cannot even find out if the sources are biased or not. I would say that half the facts are cited, even though the citations are not appropriate.Clairemaurel06 (talk) 05:40, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

I usually do not enjoy group work too much, because of the work it requires and because of the people in the group. Usually, there is always one person who does most of the work and another person who does no work at all. I like this group work though because I did not choose my groups and I think because I do not know everyone in my group we should get along pretty well. This group work should be fun as long as we have a schedule that everyone can work around. Some tips I have about group work are that we need to work all together and to divide all of the tasks in a fair way so that everyone has the same amount of work. I do believe that this group work could be successful because it seems like a very interesting project.Clairemaurel06 (talk) 22:52, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

I am not the biggest fan of group work for reasons I am sure most people have. The workload is almost always lopsided meaning that there is usually one person carrying the weight, some carrying a small amount, and at least one who carries none and is MIA until the project is due. I really hope that the group work pertaining to this class will be different since we all have a basis of what we are supposed to do, therefore, it will be easier to build upon it. Ultimately, as long as people are responsive and we do not leave the work until last minute where we have to rush and risk not being flexible enough for everyone to put forth equal amounts of effort we will be successful. Nmyoung1 (talk) 06:25, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

I personally do not like group work. I think it adds unneccesary stress to individuals. I think it has to do with a lot of trust for people we do not even know very well. Group work also shows how people can sometimes feel entitled to be doing things they do not need to be. Some people think they are in charge and can control everything that goes on in th group which is not the case at all. "Group" can mean a lot of different things to different people. Group work also gives people the opportunity to slack off and only have other group memebers do the work for you which is not the right thing either. I do not think group work is the most efficient way to get quality work done. Maggs08 (talk) 22:43, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

1 Pretty much everything within the article is necessary to state, nothing is distracting in that sense. What was a little distracting is how the information is presented. It feels like it’s a little choppy in some areas and because of that, it makes it a little harder to read.

2 The article is fairly neutral in most aspects. The only thing that I noticed is that the way certain sentences are worded and phrased makes it seem like it could be misconstrued or interpreted as being slightly biased. However, it was nothing huge or major though.

#6 The article appears to be up to date. All the information is very relevant to the time period. The only information that would be added is more in depth articulations of the beliefs of the Rajneesh movement. The facts and information only seemed to touch the surface of the movement.

#7 There were no conversations going on in the talk page. They seemed to be very dead.

8) Rajneesh is related to the religious communes we have been learning about because like others, Rajneesh initiate followers. This seems to be a big factor that these communes have in common. Rajneesh teachings emphasis meditation, love, humor, and many more. This is similar to other communes because it has impacted the New Age in several ways. This article is not part of any wiki projects. Maggs08 (talk) 22:43, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

9) I noticed that wiki is more factual and talks about the topic itslef whereas our in class conversations we like to compare to either other communes, or our world today and how it has impacted, and how it has changed. Wiki has more history behind this imformation but we like to talk about why things were done and analyze. Maggs08 (talk) 22:43, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

I love group work. Every time I'm involved with group work I'm able to separate and delegate some of the work load. This allows me to concentrate my focus and spend more time working on my topic. This gets rid of most of the headaches involved with projects.

[Zach Schultz]

Sources Assignment

In all honesty, I hope to contribute as much as I can to our Wiki Article, but specifically I would like to upgrade our sources to things more credible and reliable. In terms of topics, I will be contributing what my group and I have and will have discussed during our meetings as a group. Here are links to 3 books and articles from seemingly credible sources I think will be helpful to us and get us one step closer to achieving our goals for updating as a group because they all have little bits of information we can use:

1. http://www.oshorajneesh.com/download/osho-books/western_mystics/The_Last_Testament_Volume_2.pdf

2. http://www.nytimes.com/1986/07/23/us/former-aides-to-guru-in-oregon-plead-guilty-to-numerous-crimes.html

3. https://books.google.com/books?id=-Zn4k2WvKZUC&pg=PA368&lpg=PA368&dq=Osho+Rajneesh+and+His+Disciples:+Some+Western+Perceptions+quotations&source=bl&ots=5ngdAJZBV5&sig=wF6B_zC5iPbrkN_tkQ0YEihCUGY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwif_afj7_HWAhUD0GMKHX5VCrcQ6AEITzAL#v=onepage&q&f=false Nmyoung1 (talk) 05:23, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

For this article, I do think we need to include much more citations because we are missing a bunch. We will also need to clarify how the values of this commune came to be, to see where the founder got his values. We also need more information into where this commune is right now and how it has changed. Here are the three sources I have found:

1. http://www.oshoworld.com/biography/briefbio.asp

2. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/jan/11/india.biography

THIS IS A GREAT LIST OF SOURCES thank youMDelaporte (talk) 18:51, 17 October 2017 (UTC) 3. https://ndnu.on.worldcat.org/external-search?queryString=The+Downfall+of+Rajneeshpuram+in+the+Print+Media%3A+A+Cross-National+Study#/oclc/5546207687 Clairemaurel06 (talk) 05:51, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

My goal is to find our group more reliable sources that we can feel secure and confident in using, and also reccommend to our fellow classmates to set eachother up for success for this project. Here are three sourxes that I thought can really help us. 1) http://www.oregonlive.com/rajneesh/index.ssf/page/post.html 2) http://www.pbs.org/video/oregon-experience-rajaneeshpuram/ 3) http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2015/11/02/rajneeshpuram-30-years-since-collapse-oregon-commune/74885010/ Maggs08 (talk) 22:43, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

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The Rajneesh movement started in India but made its way to Oregon, United States. This movement had for leader Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, a guru also known as Osho. This commune was mostly based on meditation and they preached the multiple lover idea. When the movement came to Oregon, the followers were mostly young and college-educated. This commune did not stay open for long as the deportation of its leader lead to its demise. The Oregon commune is destroyed in September 1985.Clairemaurel06 (talk) 07:23, 31 October 2017 (UTC) This movement was not only in Oregon but it found its way all throughout Europe as well as Asia. It started in India and it ended in India. Clairemaurel06 (talk) 07:23, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Founder: Osho was born in central India as the eldest of 11 children. As a child, he was rebellious and often questioned philosophical as well as religious values. At a young age, he also started to practice meditation. He believes to have become enlightened at the age of 21. He obtains a degree in philosophy in 1956 while being the debate champion. For nine years (1957-1966), he is a professor of philosophy as well as a public speaker. During these 9 years, he becomes very powerful as he travels all around India as a debater. After those long nine years, he retires as a professor and starts to talk about his revolutionary meditations. While he gives talks in his native language, his tapes are also translated to English as they make their way to the United States. He does not start recruiting until 1970, where he travels all around India. From the western World are psychotherapists that arrive to follow his Neo-Sannyas. From 1981-1985 is when he starts to come to Oregon, to a village they name Rajneeshpuram that inhabits 500 residents. He also starts a silence that he breaks in 1984 when he starts his lectures in front of thousands. In November 1985, Osho is found guilty of immigration fraud and is deported from the United States. Between 1986-1987, Osho goes on a World Tour to talk about his beliefs but many nations refuse entry for fear of disagreeing with the United States. In 1987, he returns to India where he will remain until his death in 1990.Clairemaurel06 (talk) 07:23, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Media: During the time Rajneesh is in Oregon, it is the period of anti-cult which leads the politicians at the time to come out against this commune. This commune is harassed by many governmental agencies such as the FBI, which cost a lot of tax-payer money. After the Oregon commune is destroyed, the FBI goes on investigation to bring this commune even further down. They are all under investigation for immigration fraud. After the trial of Osho, US attorney of Portland admits that the government did everything they could to put this commune to rest. More members were arrested, such as Sheela P. Silverman who was accused for attempted murder. After all this media craze and the deportation of Osho, the Rajneesh movement in Oregon broke down with only 1,500 left in Rajneeshpuram. There were also scandals of children molestation as well as the belief that they were going to crush a US building.Clairemaurel06 (talk) 07:23, 31 October 2017 (UTC) Peer review: I believe more can be on media since media had a negative affect on Rajneesh.Ppallavi20 (talk) 22:09, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Beliefs and Practices: His parents' religion was Jainism. However, Osho never subscribed to any religious faith during his lifetime. He received "samadhi" which is an enlightenment in which his soul became one with the universe, on March 21,1953 at the age of ripe age of 21. Rajneesh also obtained a master's degree in philosophy from the University of Saugar. All of these life experiences contributed to what developed into the Rajneesh Movement religious beliefs, however, he definitely did not let any one particular religion influence him. In fact, He taught of a spiritual path that combined elements from Hinduism, Jainism, Zen Buddhism, Taoism, Christianity, ancient Greek philosophy, many other religious and philosophic traditions, humanistic psychology, new forms of therapy and meditation, etc. Nmyoung1 (talk) 16:55, 31 October 2017 (UTC) In addition to Natasha's information about the Rajneesh beliefs and practices, obedience and suthority played a huge role for the Rajneesh. People followed the norms of wearing similar clothes and participating in the same activities. What was really interesting was that poeople were not punished for wearing other clothes or disagreeing with the teachings. The people were allowed to come and go as they pleased as long as they did not hurt anybody. Maggs08 (talk) 22:43, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Accusations of Terrorism: In 1981 Osho left India very reluctantly, because of his health problems. He migrated to the United States in efforts to obtain more advanced medical care and treatment. There were many rumors circulating that he committed income tax evasion and insurance fraud, but there was insufficient evidence to prove these claims. When the group moved to the United States, they settled on a ranch in Dalles, Oregon. They renamed this 65,000-acre ranch to Rajneeshpuram, which translates to "City of Rajneesh". Many of the people in Dalles, as well as neighboring towns, did not support the movement's religious or cultural beliefs. In fact, it went as far as denying them legal permits to do construction and renovate the ranch. As a result, the Rajneeshees did it anyways. When the city attempted to stop the illegal construction, their office was attacked by unknown person. Many people believe that it was the group that was responsible for this, but there was not enough evidence to prosecute anybody. In efforts to offset the disadvantages the group was facing, a few key sannyasins (disciples of Osho) campaigned for a seat on the city council. Nmyoung1 (talk) 17:29, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

The Decline According to Oregonian, the Rajneesh had hand picked teams that executed a terrorism attack poisoning at least 700 people. They ran the longest wiretapping operation ever uncovered. The relevations brought criminal chargers, defections, global manhunts, and prison time. Most of these crimes were in rebellion against government regulations. The Rajneesh turned comprehensive plans into page turning thriller crimes. This is what caused the Rajneesh movement to decline slowly but surely. This scheme remains the single largest bioterrorism attack on US soil. It was one of those things that the Rajneesh had been holding back and planning and it ended up backfiring on them and and caused their commune to collapse and decline. Maggs08 (talk) 22:43, 7 November 2017 (UTC) Zschultz14 (talk) 22:58, 7 November 2017 (UTC) The Rajneesh battled with the 1000 Friends which also contributed to their decline. This started with many legal attacks trying to get rid of one another. They wanted to stop the creation of the city from being constructed. The fight went on for years. These legal battles didn't just stay within the realms of the courts. They also took place in the media. Zach SchultzZschultz14 (talk) 22:58, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Peer review: overall I like all the information added, but I believe more can be added to each section. There may be more articles or videos that can help with the research of the Rajneesh commune.Ppallavi20 (talk) 22:09, 15 November 2017 (UTC)