User:L293D/Archives/2018-11

Unattributed cut, paste and translation of articles from other language Wikipedias

Some time back I had to draw your attention to the requirement to acknowledge others work if you translate a page from another language wikipedia by placing a translated page template on the English language page you had created. This was on French submarine Redoutable (Q136) French submarine Ajax (Q148) and German torpedo boat Albatros, the first two being copied from French wikipedia and the last one from German wikipedia. I now see you have recently created a number of further articles on French submarines and submitting some of them for B class review. However on checking Requin-class submarine I have discovered that the prose is copied from the Polish wikipedia entry again without attribution. A cursory check has revealed similarities between other original articles on Polish wikipedia and pages you have created on English wikipedia. I have added the requisite edit summary on the article and template on the talk page for the Requin class submarine, will you kindly do likewise on the other articles you have copied and remember to do so at the outset on any other articles you copy across in the future Lyndaship (talk) 14:31, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Review for English/French speaker / Urgently need your help!

Hello L293D. I am contacting you because you are a speaker of both English and French. I have created the page Draft:Pierre_Jovanovic nearly 2 months ago, and I am waiting for a review. Could you please consider having a look at it ? Please excuse me if my request is improper. I am learning the ropes. Best regards. Micha Jo (talk) 08:42, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

L293D, Thanks for taking the time to review my draft. I am thrilled that it is approved! Kind regards. Micha Jo (talk) 11:38, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

@L293D: Please, I need your help. My first article, which you kindly approved after a 2 month review process was submitted for deletion by user Bradv. See here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pierre Jovanovic. I presented strong arguments in the talk page Talk:Pierre_Jovanovic, but they were not considered. Could you please have a look, and support my page if you like it ? Also note that Bradv is the infamous editor which deleted the Wikipedia page of Mrs Strickland who later won the Nobel prize in physics: [[1]] and [[2]]. Thank you and kind regards. Micha Jo (talk) 03:10, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject Military History Contest rules

Hello L293D, you may not be aware that the rules of the contest provide that This is self-scoring (but not self-assessing) so requests for assessments should be made through the normal channels (i.e. at WP:MHA). The entries that I removed are those that you self-assessed and did not submit for independent assessment. You are free to self-assess up to B-class, but for those to be counted for the contest they need to be independently verified by listing at WP:MHA, which you appear to be aware of as you list articles there. Thanks, Kges1901 (talk) 09:31, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

@Kges1901: The contest rules (Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Contest#How it works), point number four, states: 4.As articles are improved throughout the month, contestants should list their articles at WP:MHA for independent re-assessment, although it is acceptable to self-assess up to C-class.. How/Where does a rule say that I'm not allowed to list articles that haven't been assessed by another editor, even if lower than B? L293D (☎ • ✎) 11:06, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

In that case, apologies. This was due to my overzealousness and I will readd the entries. Kges1901 (talk) 20:00, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

October 2018 Military History Writers' Contest

		The Writer's Barnstar
		On behalf of the Wikiproject Military History coordinators, I hereby award you the Writer's Barnstar for placing second in the October 2018 Military History Article Writing Contest with 92 points from 34 articles. Congratulations, Kges1901 (talk) 22:31, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Pls help meh with NGC 2865

I am not good at citing stuff but you can! Apparently people use this French site so yeah. http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad/sim-id?Ident=NGC++2865 https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/NGC_2865?wprov=sfla1 AdrianWikiEditor (talk) 23:56, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Copyright image

I think it would be best to reinstate the image of the two scientists. As indicated by WP:Copyright, 'original images and sound files licensed under CC BY-SA and GFDL (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts) or in the public domain are greatly preferred to copyrighted media files used under fair use or otherwise.' Векочел (talk) 02:36, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Yes, but in the case of a 2005 book, the most relevant image is by far the cover. The image satisfies all criteria at WP:NFCC. L293D (☎ • ✎) 02:42, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

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French submarine classes

{{Armide class submarine}} says it was preceded by Diane class. I'm guessing that was Diane-class submarine (1916), but that claims to be succeeded by Dupuy de Lôme rather than Armide. The other alternative is Diane-class submarine (1930), but that claims to be succeeded by Orion which in turn was succeeded by Diane again. The Armide article claims that Armide was preceded by Gustave Zédé! I'm confused; please can you help fix the links? Thanks, Certes (talk) 11:52, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

@Certes: yes, there is a lot of confusion around submarine class succession. Nowadays, classes are explicitly retired and new ones are commissioned and its easy to tell. But especially for 1900-1950 French submarines, there is a lot of confusion because some classes were ordered before but commissioned after another class. And the pressing into service of German submarines doesn't help in the confusion either. However, I have access to Submarines: An Illustrated History of Their Impact, by Paul E. Fontenoy, and I'll be doing a restructuring according to the order in the book. L293D (☎ • ✎) 12:16, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination

Hello! Your submission of Template:Did you know nominations/German torpedo boat T24 at the Did You Know nominations page is not complete; if you would like to continue, please link the nomination to the nominations page as described in step 3 of the nomination procedure. If you do not want to continue with the nomination, tag the nomination page with {{db-g7}}, or ask a DYK admin. Thank you. DYKHousekeepingBot (talk) 16:01, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of French submarine Laplace

Hello! Your submission of French submarine Laplace at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 21:55, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Please see new note on your DYK nomination. Yoninah (talk) 22:40, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

Thank you for being such a good admin. it means so much to me. Thewinrat (talk) 16:44, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

@Thewinrat: Um...this user isn't an admin. (though I do feel like he might actually do pretty good in an RfA...sometime soon?) Or were you looking for L235, who did pass his RfA recently? ^Semi_Hypercube ✎ 22:07, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the encouragements, but I don't think I would pass given I've been here for only a year. And there are much more fun things to do here than adminning, like writing French submarine articles, participating in article writing contests (I'm in the lead!) and other stuff. L293D (☎ • ✎) 03:17, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

You've been here only a year, which is why I said "sometime soon". ^Semi_Hypercube ✎ 12:25, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Well, your actions confused me of being a admin, im a klutz sometimes. --Thewinrat (talk) 16:37, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Perhaps this might be good on your userpage? ^Semi_Hypercube ✎ 02:19, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Head's up

A couple of head's up about OTD and a DYK nomination: [3] and [4]. Carcharoth (talk) 15:59, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

We've had this talk before

Dude, WTF? You copied my work from another boat of this class to start this one, without attribution, I might add, and now you want to start a GAN without letting me know? Or even have the courtesy of adding me as a co-nominator? And who do you think's going to have to do the bulk of the work to respond to the reviewer's comments since you don't have most of the sources that I've used to write the vast majority of the article?--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:01, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

1. There is no special right to nominate an article for GA bestowed upon the article's expander.
2. I have written parts of the article and made a DYK on it, so I am thoroughly familiar with its contents.
3. I do have access to some of the article's sources, for example The German Fleet at War, 1939-1945.
4. I do have some experience with torpedo boats and GAs, as I passed Albatross a month ago.
5. I did not and will not add you myself as co-nominator of any article. How in the world do you expect me to somehow magically know that you will want to spend time on this specific article?
6. I did not consult you beforehand because of the surprisingly harsh and cold reply I got when I asked you last time. However, if that's for the same kind on content to get on my talk page, I will post on yours next time.
7. There nothing disgraceful, much less insulting, in having one's article nominated for GA. I would be very flattered if you nom'd one of my articles.

If there is a particular prestige in nominating an article for GA that I was unaware of, I am willing to removed the GAN template and let you place it yourself. L293D (☎ • ✎) 02:52, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

French submarine Armide

Hi, I just promoted your hook to the World War I prep set. Please check that I added the correct cite for the fact that it was deployed during World War I. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 20:29, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks a ton! There's such a long queue at DYKNA that its awesome to have it go on the main page so fast. L293D (☎ • ✎) 17:07, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your last-minute work on both submarine articles. I'm glad we could get one of them (O'Byrne-class submarine) into the November 11 set. Please always make sure that all the information you write is verified and sourced, as we have some very eagle-eyed editors over at WP:ERRORS watching these sets, and they even pull things from the main page. Hope that won't happen today! Best, Yoninah (talk) 00:30, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Sorry for pulling your cite of Couhat for this fact last night but it plainly did not support the claim, you really do need to check that references do indeed say what you claim. I agree she was likely named after Armida but I can find no RS which says that however I do not have these books and it is possible they will support it :Roche, Jean-Michel (2005). Dictionnaire des bâtiments de la flotte de guerre française de Colbert à nos jours. 1. Group Retozel-Maury Millau. p. 150. ISBN 978-2-9525917-0-6. OCLC 165892922.

Roche, Jean-Michel (2005). Dictionnaire des bâtiments de la flotte de guerre française de Colbert à nos jours. 2. Group Retozel-Maury Millau. p. 169. ISBN 978-2-9525917-0-6. OCLC 165892922.

perhaps you would can verify if they do and save the DYK. There are a couple of other factual errors in the article which I will try to resolve later today. Can I suggest that when you copy, translate and paste an article from another Wikipedia you do that first and then complete the infobox from the information in the article as its so annoying to find one fact in the prose contradicted in the infobox - complement and number of 75mm guns on Armide for instance Lyndaship (talk) 09:02, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Undelete request by Eduardo Bittar on 09 Nov 2018

PLEASE, I REQUEST YOU TO REVERT THE SITUATION, AND CONSIDER GENTLY THE POSSIBILITY OF PUBLISHING THE PAGE 'EDUARDO BITTAR' THAT´S AN IMPORTANT PHILOSOPHER IN ACADEMICS IN BRAZIL.

Eduardo Bittar (talk) 16:46, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

The page Wikipedia:ACADEMIC is a redirect page, not a sandbox or article location. As such, I have reverted you edit. The content you had written on the page has not been lost; It can be viewed at https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:ACADEMIC&oldid=867748485 . If you would like to start an article, please see Wikipedia:Your first article. L293D (☎ • ✎) 17:07, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of French submarine Narval (1925)

Hello! Your submission of French submarine Narval (1925) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:11, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for German torpedo boat Albatros

On 10 November 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article German torpedo boat Albatros, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that despite clear orders to fire only if fired upon, the German torpedo boat Albatros crippled the Norwegian ship Pol III after being rammed, thus firing the first shot of the Norwegian Campaign? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/German torpedo boat Albatros. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, German torpedo boat Albatros), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Precious

at full speed

Thank you for quality articles about German torpedo boats and French submarines, such as German torpedo boat Albatros and French submarine Perle (1935), for fighting vandalism, patrolling new pages and gnomish work, for thoughtful suggestions for 11/11, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:54, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Wow thanks! L293D (☎ • ✎) 00:06, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

L293D, I second what Gerda wrote. You're an asset here and your work is appreciated. JC7V-talk 00:07, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

A year ago, you were recipient no. 2064 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:13, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Yasra Rizvi

Hi, You are right that one should left red linked to encourage editors to create her biography. But actually editors with interest in Pakistani entertainment and biographies are very few otherwise her biography would created right now because she played a leading role from 2013 for example: Mann Ke Moti aired in 2013-2014, I dont know much about how article is created. will you please make her biography considering this https://www.google.com.pk/search?q=yasra+rizvi&client=ms-android-oppo&prmd=inv&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiwq63jqMzeAhVDyhoKHQFUB4AQ_AUICigC and i will too add her notable works after that — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.160.117.122 (talk) 12:19, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

I disagree that editors with interest in Pakistani entertainment are very few. There are hundreds if not thousands of notable Pakistani actors and actresses and it is just normal for it to take several years before an article is written on them. And to get back to this redlink thing, if there really are "few" editors with an interest in Pakistani entertainment, then it is still better to leave it a redlink to encourage them to create an article. L293D (☎ • ✎) 12:47, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

A redirect request

You seem like a reasonable person, could you please consider this redirect https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_creation%2FRedirects&type=revision&diff=868318386&oldid=868317018

I was just trying to turn a red link into a blue one Kit-Kat Galore (talk) 13:14, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Done L293D (☎ • ✎) 13:50, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for O'Byrne-class submarine

On 11 November 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article O'Byrne-class submarine, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that when the O'Byrne-class submarines were seized by France before their sale to Romania, the Romanian Navy had to wait 15 more years to get its first submarine? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/O'Byrne-class submarine. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, [5]), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 23:49, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Photo request petition (please sign)

Can you please sign this petition requesting certain historic photos (many from WWII) be released for Wikimedia Commons? Please do spread the word of the petition to other Wikipedians too. Thanks, --PlanespotterA320 (talk) 22:47, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

User:ToeCollectorV2

Hey--ran CU and blocked a bunch of them. You can see the notes in my contributions--it's up to you to see if you want to file an SPI, but I don't think it's worth the trouble. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 17:21, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

Hello L293D/Archives,

Community Wishlist Survey – NPP needs you – Vote NOW

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If this proposal does not make it into the top ten, it is likely that the tools will be given no support at all for the foreseeable future. So please put in a vote today.

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Move

Hello and thank you for performing the moves I requested. However there seems to be something with the Samsung i8000 page (which I requested to move to Samsung i8000 Omnia II). Another user right after you has moved the page back to the original name saying "per WP:RM/TR", so I believe that was an error from that user. --KaukoHaapavesi3 (talk) 15:10, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Done: I assume this was an error on the other user's part, so I've undone their revert and left them a message. L293D (☎ • ✎) 15:23, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Much appreciated. --KaukoHaapavesi3 (talk) 16:03, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

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Yumna Zaidi

Hi, I saw many times you responded semi edit request on this article like this [6], will you please add links to Madawa, Paras and Dil Kiya Karey in her Television section. I will be grateful if you will done this good faith edit of mine on behalf of me. Thank You 119.160.118.52 (talk) 16:25, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Done L293D (☎ • ✎) 15:06, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for French submarine Amazone (1916)

On 24 November 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article French submarine Amazone (1916), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the French submarine Amazone was named after a mythological tribe of women warriors? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/French submarine Amazone (1916). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, French submarine Amazone (1916)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 00:02, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of German torpedo boat T22

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article German torpedo boat T22 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Kges1901 -- Kges1901 (talk) 02:01, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of German torpedo boat T22

The article German torpedo boat T22 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:German torpedo boat T22 for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Kges1901 -- Kges1901 (talk) 15:01, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for German torpedo boat T24

On 28 November 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article German torpedo boat T24, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after being damaged twice by Allied ships, escorting a blockade runner, and hitting two mines, the German torpedo boat T24 was sunk by air-launched rockets? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/German torpedo boat T24. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, German torpedo boat T24), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:03, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Team Taisan

L293D, the nominator has responded to your latest review comment. When you get a chance, can you please return to your review and get it moving again? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:19, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Done L293D (☎ • ✎) 03:31, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Pom-pon

Pom-pon is a word, and is the original name of the fluffy balls so named, and the naval apparatus named after them. Apparently, over the years, so many people have used the term pom-pom (incorrectly), it has now become "correct". This is similar to the drift of "media", for example, from plural to singular.

See: https://grammarist.com/spelling/pompom-pompon-pom-pom/

Thanks,

104.129.196.175 (talk) 21:56, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Lagrange-class submarine copy edit

Hello, L293D. This is a courtesy notice that the copy edit you requested for Lagrange-class submarine at the Guild of Copy Editors requests page is now complete. All feedback welcome! Regards, SshibumXZ (talk · contribs). 03:07, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Further, good luck with the potential GA review of the article! Regards, SshibumXZ (talk · contribs). 03:07, 30 November 2018 (UTC)