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Before we being, there are a few points I want to make:

  • Despite the name of the program, I will not be "coaching" you for adminship, as RFA is not an exam. I will be asking you questions, but the attitude and application of policy/guideline is just as important as the actual answer, and I hope to see an explanation for most of the "single word" answers, as this indicates how much you understand. There is often no single "right answer"!
  • You do not necessarily need to leave me a message saying you have completed something on this page (although you are welcome to do so, of course), as this page will be on my watchlist. However, if you see that I have not responded on this page within about a week of your last edit, do feel free to remind me!
  • If you are going to be away for more than a week, just let me know so I will know that you are not ignoring this page or have given up! Real life being what it is, things may prevent you continuing—just let me know as a courtesy!
  • This may seem a bit self-important, but if I am going to mentor you, then I would not expect you to go for RfA, unless I am the nominee! If someone else approaches you, then ask them to contact me about being a co-nominee—I have no problems with that.
  • If you have any questions, or disagree with something I say, please tell me! I will not always get things right, and as an admin, I've made mistakes.

Let's get started!

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Here are the three default questions that you will be asked on RFA, plus one of my own (which I stole from PhantomSteve (talk · contribs)!). At least I modified it a little bit! Reaper Eternal (talk) 17:28, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

  1. What administrative work do you intend to take part in?
    • A: I mainly intend to focus on AIV, UAA, CSD, AfD as I've already got some experience in these fields.
  2. What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?
    • A: Articles: Dark Fall: Lost Souls, it's not great but it's my first attempt to write an article. Images: I've uploaded 2 images to commons, both related to hematology. The first image File:Cabotsringbody.jpg is now used on two other wiki's besides en.wiki.
  3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
    • A: I've been involved a few minor conflicts, e.g.. over article names (Icelandic loan guarantees referendum comes to mind). Nothing that really caused me stress. If something related to the conflict gets to me I just leave it for a bit, do something else and return after some time has passed and try to look at things from another angle.
  4. Additional question by Reaper Eternal: Do you want to be an administrator when RFA is called "a feculent sinkhole of hatred and rage", and adminship "hell"? Why are you interested in going through something I have equated to a college frat hazing event?
    • A: I'd like to be able to help maintaining wikipedia more directly. I know RfA is "a feculent sinkhole of hatred and rage" but it's currently the only process available to become an admin. It's a challenge, but one I think I can endure.
  • Okay, I'll get back to this later, but I'll leave some more questions below. Reaper Eternal (talk) 12:48, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Experience

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These are just a couple questions to help me gauge your experience. I'm interested in what you know, so don't hesitate to mention other things that you think demonstrate your knowledge. Cheers!

Have you:

  • !Voted in an RFA?

I've voted in a number of RFA's, most recently at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Jéské Couriano 2

Yes to all. UAA as part of Afc reviewing and NPP-ing, AIV nowadays mainly via my watchlist and random article reading. I filed some SPI cases. Don't really know how many.

No.

  • Used editing tools? (e.g. Huggle, Twinkle, HotCat, AWB, user scripts)

I tried Huggle and HotCat, but don't use them anymore. I generally use twinkle for warning, rolling back vandalism etc. Haven't used AWB. I employ a userscript for AfC reviewing and I sometimes use Kissle for NPP.

  • !Voted in an AFD?

Nominated, voted, commented and even closed a couple. I used to keep a list, but it got a bit long after a while.

  • ...a TFD?

I've voted on a few last year.

  • ...a CFD?

1 time at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 February 6

  • ...an FFD?

No.

  • ...an MFD?

I've followed a few, but haven't voted on one afaik.

I try to help out with some answers here and there.

  • Uploaded images?

2 at this time. Perhaps more in the future when I encounter some more interesting blood or bone marrow cells.

Via RfC on a talkpage and attempts to formal Mediation.

No.

  • Requested rollback, filemover, reviewer (now defunct), autopatrolled, etc?

Requested and received Rollback and Reviewer. Still using Rollback when appropriate and used to use reviewer during the trial.

  • Had an RFA?

Not yet.

Other comments

Slightly more deletionist than inclusionist. Moderate immediatist. Moderate statusquoist.

Unfortunately not. My 1 live article is a Start class article (low importance). I'm attempting to write a few more, but progression is slow.

Okay, thanks for taking the time to answer these! The only information I still have to ask for is links to your dispute resolution endeavors. I'm interested in seeing how you did. I would encourage you to get at least one article up to GA status before an RFA. While it's not mandatory, having a good article, featured article, or featured list is normally very helpful in indicating that you understand Wikipedia's policies and understand what Wikipedia is about.
Your meta philosophies are interesting, since they almost exactly match mine. I tend to describe myself as more of an "encyclopedist" than anything else—I tend to think that articles on more encyclopedic topics like tropical depressions and archaeological sites are more deserving of Wikipedia articles than plastic-suited cartoon characters. But that's just my opinion. :) Reaper Eternal (talk) 18:36, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Dispute resolution endeavours:
-EDL right wing dispute/political movement dispute/pov dispute:

- Icelandic debt repayment referendum, 2010 naming dispute:

In the end both disputes were resolved via the talkpage. Jarkeld (talk) 23:31, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Miscellaneous questions

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These are just some random questions I have on your editing. Good luck!

  1. What are your favorite/best contributions to Wikipedia?
    Small fixes, small additions, my 2 images & 1 article.
  2. Do you tend to concentrate on any one article type to edit?
    Not specifically. I've got a wide range of interests.
  3. What percentage of the time do you spend fighting vandalism compared to just editing encyclopedic content?
    20%. Less than it used to be, mainly vandalism reverts from pages on my watchlist.
  4. What weaknesses do you see in yourself?
    Sometimes I use too much text to explain something that could have been explained with a single sentence.
  5. Why do you enjoy editing Wikipedia?
    Contributing in my own small way just feels rewarding.
    These answers are also pretty interesting. I tend to be more of a vandalism fighter, so I would have answered something like 75-80%. Remember though: If you ever have any questions or comments on my comments, please add them! Thanks! Reaper Eternal (talk) 18:36, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Admin focus

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  1. What Admin-like tasks have you not had experience with?
    Can't really think of one at the moment.
  2. Upon becoming an admin, what tasks would you regularly participate in?
    AIV, UAA, CSD, AfD, duck based SPI
  3. Upon becoming an admin, what tasks would you have to read up on/totally avoid?
    Read up on: SPI, Misc. cases via AN/I, blocking non-standard cases. Avoid: nothing I hope.


  • Now here's the question that will tend to shape how I do the mentoring: What tasks would you focus on as an administrator? Pick only a couple areas, as you won't have time to do everything. These will shape the way I run through this mentoring program. (I'll still cover everything, just your areas of interest will receive greater coverage. I don't want to dwell on CSD if you never want to touch the stuff!) Reaper Eternal (talk) 18:37, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
    I'd like to focus mainly on deletions (CSD/AfD/RevDel) and AIV/UAA and SPI. Jarkeld (talk) 00:02, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
    OK! Let's get started! (I probably won't cover SPI, as I don't understand it that well. I just occasionally block checkuser-confirmed puppets and quacking socks.) Reaper Eternal (talk) 13:20, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Reading list

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No, you don't have to read all this right now! You will probably want to refer to the policies and guidelines as you look over my questions, and I will tell you when to finish up reading them. I'd recommend re-reading the policies before answering the questions, as some of these can be tricky! Cheers! Reaper Eternal (talk) 13:25, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Blocking

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General blocking questions

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  1. When would it be appropriate to decline a request at WP:AIV? See this AIV report for an example.
    If a user hasn't been warned enough (and the vandalism is not really serious eg. adding libellous information or creating attack pages) or if the vandalism appears to be a new user trying to edit for the first time (assuming good faith).
  2. Should you ever unblock yourself?
    According to policy: never
    That is correct. However, nobody is going to complain about unblocking yourself under circumstances like these. (It's a lot easier to do than you might think.)
  3. What steps should you take when blocking a user on WP:AIV?
    Check whether the report is correct, check if the user is still vandalizing wikipedia (or was until very recently). If so: block the user and leave a block message at their talk page. If not: remove the report as stale.
    I would normally leave an {{AIV|s}} beneath the report to notify the reporter, however, why the user wasn't blocked. Other than that, that's exactly what any admin should do.
  4. When should "cool down blocks" be used?
    According to policy: never (except when the editor is being disruptive as well.)
    Yep! In the case of the disruption, the block is for the disruption, not the hot-headedness.
  5. Another administrator blocks a user, but you disagree with the block. What do you do?
    Contact the blocking admin on his talkpage and discuss the block. If the discussion fails and I still feel the block was wrong, I'd take it to WP:AN.
    Yes.
  6. You come across a vandalbot while patrolling for vandalism. After immediately blocking it, what steps do you take?
    Roll-back the changes made by the bot and make a mention of the vandalbot at ANI.
    Remember that as an administrator you can perform "bot rollback", which is what you should do in the case of a rapidly editing vandalbot.
  7. If unsure about making a block, what should you do?
    Ask an experienced admin for input or take it to WP:AN.
    Definitely! You should always err on the side of caution.
  8. You notice that a respected administrator has begun posting vandalism at a very high rate. After blocking what would you do?
    Contact the bureaucrat noticeboard and/or Arbcom about a (possibly) compromised admin account. Then undo the vandalism by that account.
    I would contact both and block the account as well. It would likely take the vandal some time to figure out how to clear the autoblock.
  9. Somebody threatens to sue Wikipedia over article content. What actions do you take?
    Warn if a warning has not been issued, block the account per WP:NLT.
    Yes.
  10. What is a "level three warning" and why is it significant?
    A level 3 warning is the first true warning: it conveys a cease and desist message telling the user to stop or face the consequences.
    Correct! A level-3 warning is the first to assume bad faith.
  11. Do vandals need all 4 levels of warnings before they can be blocked?
    No, if the account is undoubtedly a vandalism only account or the vandalism is serious enough (attacks on other users/adding libellous info to BLP's).
    Correct.
  12. What are the exemptions to 3RR?
    Reverting blatant vandalism, copyright violations, additions by banned users and undoing your own revert.
    Good.

AIV exercises

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Here are some example AIV exercises that you can do. These users and IPs have all been reported to AIV. In each of these cases, the current time is 00:30 12 October 2011. If you choose blocking, remember to specify the options that you would use ("anon only" for IPs, "autoblock any IP addresses" for accounts, "account creation blocked", "block talk page access", "block user email access" for both), the blocking summary that you would use, and the length of time you would block. For example, you might answer "block anon only, account creation blocked for 48 hours". You can also use the shorthand formats of "hardblock" or "softblock". If you choose to not block, then please add the appropriate notification below the report. You can see some sample response templates at Template:Editnotices/Page/Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. In all of these, please add an exmplanation too, as I want to see how much you know. Cheers, and good luck! Reaper Eternal (talk) 14:21, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

00:23 12 October 2011 – Replaced Gay with "Gay people eat big black cocks"
00:23 12 October 2011 – Received {{uw-vandalism1}}
00:23 12 October 2011 – Replaced Gay with "Gimme a gay nigga plz"
00:24 12 October 2011 – Received {{uw-vandalism2}}
00:25 12 October 2011 – Replaced the warner's userpage with "I am a sad gay nigger user"
00:25 12 October 2011 – Received {{uw-npa3}}
00:26 12 October 2011 – Replaced Gay with "Penis soup eaters"
00:26 12 October 2011 – Received {{uw-vandalism4}}
00:27 12 October 2011 – Replaced Gay with "Only sad weeaboo homosexuals would revert this"
00:27 12 October 2011 – Reported to AIV
00:28 12 October 2011 – Replaced Gay with "BUM CHUM BUM CHUM BUM CHUM"
00:28 12 October 2011 – Replaced Gay with "8======D ~ ~ ~ ~ ~"
00:29 12 October 2011 – Replaced Gay with "Ass pirates!"
00:29 12 October 2011 – Replaced Gay with "Ass bandits"
00:30 12 October 2011 – Replaced Gay with "Gahallaagaggghghh! I'm choking on a thick sticky dick!"
  • 192.168.1.101 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
    No block: reply to the AIV report with :{{AIV|4im}}.
    Inappropriate 4im warning as it seems to be the first offense. A level 1 warning would have been appropriate. I'd notify the reporter about the inappropriate warning & leave a test level 2 notice in place of the 4im one.
    Exactly. We don't give 4im warnings except for severe and blatant vandalism/libel. Reaper Eternal (talk) 20:57, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
00:24 12 October 2011 – Added "qwerty asdf" to the end of C# (programming language)
00:24 12 October 2011 – Received {{uw-test4im}}
00:27 12 October 2011 – Added "asasdfghj" to the middle of Britney Spears
00:28 12 October 2011 – Reported to AIV
  • Colonel Fucker (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
    Block for username violation (uh-block, standard message), reply to the AIV report with {{AIV|ns}} and a custom message that the user was blocked for a username violation.
    Insufficiently warned (as in: not warned at all). Username does constitute a disruptive username.
    I personally would leave a {{vaublock}} on his talk page noting that the block is both for vandalism and an obviously offensive username. However, replying to the AIV report will do nothing, since the AIV helper robot will remove the report and all comments following it. I also wouldn't consider it appropriate to notify the filer of the report, since anybody with a username like that who starts making vandalistic edits is a pretty clear VOA. Reaper Eternal (talk) 20:57, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
00:24 12 October 2011 – Added "P00()00000000P!!!" to the end of Perry Rhodan
00:25 12 October 2011 – Reported to AIV
15:06 5 January 2011 – Added "John Q. Doe has been discovered to be homosexual" to John Doe
15:10 5 January 2011 – Received {{uw-defamatory2}}
19:12 6 January 2011 – Added "ttt" to the end of Wrench
19:16 6 January 2011 – Received {{uw-vandalism2}}
01:56 14 January 2011 – Undid the reversion of his edit to Wrench
1:59 14 January 2011 – Received {{uw-vandalism3}}
13:01 1 March 2011 – Replaced United States with "I can haz cheezberger?"
13:01 1 March 2011 – Received {{uw-vandalism1}}
21:41 13 May 2011 – Added "asdf" to Archaeology
21:43 13 May 2011 – Received {{uw-test2}}
00:01 7 August 2011 – Redirected India to Wanker
00:02 7 August 2011 – Received {{uw-longterm}}
00:15 12 October 2011 – Added "Philosophy is the study of cocks" to Philosophy
00:20 12 October 2011 – Reported to AIV
(Random vandalistic edits)
05:24 24 September 2011 (Blocked 48 hours: anon only, account creation blocked)
(More vandalism)
23:05 5 October 2011 (Blocked 1 week: anon only, account creation blocked)
23:07 5 October 2011 – Tagged with {{SharedIPedu}} for some middle school
00:13 12 October 2011 – Added "GAY!" to List of Grammy Award categories
00:15 12 October 2011 – Reported to AIV
00:02 12 October 2011 – Created an attack page
00:04 12 October 2011 – Received {{uw-attack}}
00:19 12 October 2011 – Added [[File:Insert some porn pic here|1000px]] to Columbus, Ohio
00:21 12 October 2011 – Reported to AIV
23:05 11 October 2011 – Adds "Incoming penis!" to Anime
23:06 11 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-vandalism1}}
23:05 11 October 2011 – Adds "EPIC NAME" to Fucking, Austria
23:06 11 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-vandalism2}}
23:08 11 October 2011 – Adds "My mom's tomatos look like turds" to Tomato
23:08 11 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-vandalism3}}
23:13 11 October 2011 – Adds "stinks" to the end of NFL
23:14 11 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-vandalism4}}
23:15 11 October 2011 – Adds "I C U" to Invisibility
23:15 11 October 2011 (Blocked 24 hours)
00:21 12 October 2011 – Adds "POW!" to Atomic bomb
00:24 12 October 2011 – Reported to AIV
00:05 12 October 2011 – Adds "Pee" to Pea
00:06 12 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-vandalism2}}
00:08 12 October 2011 – Adds "Pee ≠ Poo" to Pea
00:08 12 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-vandalism3}}
00:13 12 October 2011 – Adds "asdss" to the end of Salt Lake City, Utah
00:16 12 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-test4}}
00:23 12 October 2011 – Adds "???????" to Anonymous
00:26 12 October 2011 – Reported to AIV
00:28 12 October 2011 – Adds "<center><div style="z-index:99;position:fixed;top:0px;left:0px;width:100%;height:100%;background:black;color:#AA0000">This page has been NUKED!!!<br/>[[File:Penis pic|500px]]</div></center>" to a highly used template
00:29 12 October 2011 – Reported to AIV
00:23 12 October 2011 – Adds "Pooppee <3 8==D~~" to Liverpool F.C.
00:24 12 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-vandalism3}}
00:26 12 October 2011 – Adds "Jerk off to gaaay porn" to the reverter's talk page
00:26 12 October 2011 – Reported to AIV
00:12 12 October 2011 – Adds "<3" to Scotland
00:13 12 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-vandalism1}}
00:14 12 October 2011 – Adds ":(" to the reverter's talk page
00:16 12 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-test1}}
00:23 12 October 2011 – Adds ":D :D :D" to Muppets
00:24 12 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-test2}}
00:27 12 October 2011 – Adds "OMG :(" to Muppets
00:28 12 October 2011 – Reported to AIV
00:10 12 October 2011 – Replaces a paragraph in Brain with an opinion piece from a blog
00:14 12 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-nor1}}
00:16 12 October 2011 – Copies content from a scholarly journal into Heart
00:17 12 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-copyright}}
00:27 12 October 2011 – Undoes the removal of the content on Heart
00:29 12 October 2011 – Reported to AIV
00:09 12 October 2011 – Modifies some of the prose in the plot summary of The Return of the King
00:10 12 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-vandalism1}}
00:13 12 October 2011 – Undoes the revert of his edit
00:14 12 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-vandalism2}}
00:17 12 October 2011 – Undoes the revert of his edit
00:19 12 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-vandalism3}}
00:23 12 October 2011 – Undoes the revert of his edit
00:24 12 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-vandalism4}}
00:26 12 October 2011 – Undoes the revert of his edit
00:28 12 October 2011 – Reported to AIV
00:30 12 October 2011 – Undoes the revert of his edit
12:21 6 October 2011 – Adds "nigga cock" to Anonymous
12:22 6 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-vandalism2}}
17:07 7 October 2011 – Blanks Worlebury Camp
17:23 7 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-delete1}}
02:24 8 October 2011 – Adds "sgfsjkfgsjl;sfg;sfg" to Margarita
02:26 8 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-vandalism2}}
00:25 10 October 2011 – Blanks his talk page
00:27 10 October 2011 – Adds "Poo poo" to Texas
00:29 10 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-vandalism2}}
00:29 10 October 2011 – Adds "Pew pew pew" to New York City
00:30 10 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-vandalism3}}
19:12 11 October 2011 – Adds "Category:LGBT Actors" to User:Jimbo Wales
19:20 11 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-vandalism3}}
00:19 12 October 2011 – Adds "OMAI" to Massachusetts
00:21 12 October 2011 – Reported to AIV
19:12 11 October 2011 – Adds "wanker wanker wanker" to Paris, France
00:21 12 October 2011 – Reported to AIV as an open proxy
00:21 12 October 2011 – Blanks Cornwall
00:22 12 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-delete2}}
00:22 12 October 2011 – Blanks Cornwall
00:23 12 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-delete3}}
00:24 12 October 2011 – Blanks his talk page
00:25 12 October 2011 – Receives {{uw-delete4}}
00:25 12 October 2011 – Blanks his talk page
00:27 12 October 2011 – Reported to AIV
Pretend example.com is some commercial site.
00:28 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Jimbo Wales
00:28 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Reaper Eternal
00:28 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Worm That Turned
00:28 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:NawlinWiki
00:28 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Materialscientist
00:28 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Chzz
00:28 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Koavf
00:29 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Wayne Slam
00:29 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Gfoley4
00:29 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Bsadowski1
00:29 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Coren
00:29 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Rich Farmbrough
00:29 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Toddst1
00:29 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Bentogoa
00:29 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Phantomsteve
00:29 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Xeno
00:29 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:MZMcBride
00:29 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Diannaa
00:29 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Wikipelli
00:29 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Raul654
00:30 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:SirFozzie
00:30 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Maxim
00:30 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Floquenbeam
00:30 12 October 2011 – Reported to AIV
00:30 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Beeblebrox
00:30 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:MBisanz
00:30 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Hersfold
00:30 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:ClueBot NG
00:30 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:EVula
00:30 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Kudpung
00:30 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Roger Davies
00:30 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:MuZemike
00:30 12 October 2011 – Adds "http://www.example.com" to User talk:Carcharoth