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Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, WP:YORKS has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 8,202 last month to 8,225 on June 21st). In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 54 is just behind WP:GM who have 59. WP:GM also has the lead in FAs at 44 out of a total number of 2,193 articles.
Currently we have twenty Yorkshire featured articles:
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive (See this month's feature below)
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
and apropos of the above a 2010 New Year article improvement drive/collaboration is being organised.
Pending changes
The trial period for Pending Changes is under way and will last for two months. Initially this will be restricted to a pre-defined set of articles that are updated on a daily basis. The queue of articles for the trial is here. This involves a change to the article settings, similar to article protection, that allows edits by anonymous and non-autoconfirmed users to be delayed before going live. (It is possible to set it so that all edits need reviewing but this is not been used for the trial.) These edits will only go live when they have been reviewed by another user who has been granted the Reviewer user rights. Pages with revisions waiting review can be found here. A large number of the regular editors have been granted this privilege for the trial and if not it can be requested here. It is a good idea to have a look at the pages that have this applied so that you are clued up for the discussion following the trial. Those of you with one of the selected articles on their watchlist will get a notification at the top of the watchlist page when there are pending changes to an article on their watchlist.
Once the trial is over there will be a discussion on rolling the system out generally or to reject this method of handing changes. If you want more details on this then take a look at the help document.
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He's violated 3RR now, so just wait until he's blocked and then I'll revert it. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 17:50, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Quit removing the DC United preseason
It has relevant links, and information, other MLS teams have this information posted. You're weakening the article. Quit reverting the edits. 72.219.227.230 (talk) 18:45, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Well sure we can write an article about him, he is some kind of a Serbian politician/spokesperson from Kosovo. He is most certainly not Albanian, he speaks against Kosovo independence in the name of Serbs who live down there, that's his role. Btw there is that one user coming out of nowhere with an idea to erase half of the article, you can see his post on my talk page, please be on alert I don't know if he will be stubborn with this attempt to destroy our hard work or not. We really need the article to be stable now when the ICJ is to give the ruling, I told him that overhauls that go against the consensus (he tried replacing the content for some countries with short "Planning to recognize" etc. even with places that have the opposite position and he chose the countries for summarization arbitrarily) are not something thar we want. All we need is shortening from time to time with countries that repeat themselves but even then we should try to keep the references and content, just instead of three lines saying "President said this, Prime Minister said this, FM said this" we can write in one sentence "President, Prime Minister and FM on several occasions stated that" but definitely not erase it all in a single sweep led by someone's whim and replace with a personal view of what this or that country thinks in one sentence. So please keep an eye for any major changes to the article.--Avala (talk) 14:44, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Well his ethnicity is certainly Serbian, both name and surname are so to say typical Serbian and definitely not Albanian. Serbian names are Slavic and Albanian names are either unique Albanian or typical Muslim so you can hardly find names that exist in both nations and mutual surnames simply do not exist. You are right, -ić is Serbian surname suffix, and has the same meaning as O' or Mc in Ireland and Scotland. I do see that he was in the "Republic of Kosovo" assembly - [1] but today he is the state secretary within the Ministry for Kosovo and Metohija in the Government of Serbia -[2] so I would guess that he is some kind of a double player. Yeah I definitely agree with an idea for semi-protection and perhaps a request for admins to keep an eye on the article for some major overhauls that we don't need at all. It will be a heavy decision, three hours of reading! I am not sure how will it look like, perhaps the majority of it will be an explanation but maybe we might have to wait for a few days to understand what is the actual decision (it's hard for me to believe that any court can bring a ruling that is ambigious as the court then surves no purpose, it should solve the issue and having an ambiguous decision definitely doesn't solve the issue for which the parties came to court, there can be no half-pregnant situation, courts don't say someone is both and guilty and not etc. but I do think that the ruling might be complex). Btw Serbian plan is to propose a resolution following the ruling within the General Assembly of the UN and the EU has offered to Serbia to join in writing. Anyway if you can file that request for semiprotection and watch I forgot where it goes, I will endorse.--Avala (talk) 19:56, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
moved here from User talk:IJA. If you address a user personally, do it in user talk space, not article talk space.
@ User:Dbachmann, no-one said it was a vote. This is just building consensus and supporting and disagreeing with proposals. A dissertation isn't need to explain why one supports or disagrees with a proposal. Also I think it was really out of order when you referred to the IPs as "a pile of Albanian patriot IP addresses"; please be more WP:CIVIL. How do you know that they're Albanian? For your information the two different IPs addresses are based in Germany. Also please do us all a favour and stop implying that your opinion is more important than everyone else's. Our opinions are all equal here on Wikipedia regardless if you're an IP or an admin. Cheers IJA (talk) 10:19, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
All I was saying that it is useless to just add "I agree", especially when logged out. We already know that all Albanians vote "I agree", and all Serbs vote "I disagree". This isn't an exercise in seeing how many of each group watch this page. Our opinions on political questions are indeed all equal here, namely, they are irrelevant. If it hadn't been for the intervention of myself and other neutral editors, this page would just have turned into an all out ethnic flamewar years ago. This edit confirms my supposition that the IPs were just the returning Germany-based Albanian troll who has plagued this talkpage in the past.
This is supposed to be a detached discussion on how the ICJ verdict affects this article. I have already said that I do not have a fixed opinion, and that I see two possible courses of action, so I don't see why you are trying to set me up for WP:OWN. If you have a contribution to make to this discussion, please make it. If you are just here to make the case that "we are all equal", and that logged out trolling is equivalent to bona fide discussion among veteran editors with a full grasp of precedents and conventions, you are sorely mistaken. This is definitely not how Wikipedia works, in spite of the "anyone can edit" moniker. --dab(𒁳) 12:20, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
I also think your edit was a bit premature.
You do realize, I hope, that the 92.74... IPs are returning trolls with a long history of disrupting this talkpage, not some bona fide anonymous editor? --dab(𒁳) 13:28, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, WP:YORKS has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 8,225 last month to 8,254 on July 28th). In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 56 is just behind WP:GM who have 59. WP:GM also has the lead in FAs at 44 out of a total number of 2,201 articles.
Currently we have twenty Yorkshire featured articles:
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive (See this month's feature below)
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
and apropos of the above a 2010 New Year article improvement drive/collaboration is being organised.
Maps
This month I thought that I would focus on the current discussions over the maps used in infoboxes for UK articles.
Firstly an initiative by user Nilfanion (talk) is currently under way on producing map data for the whole of the UK. The maps would cover all counties, wards, civil parishes etc. and be derived from the Ordnance Survey OpenData release. Further details can be seen here where feedback would be appreciated on two specific concerns—the colour scheme and line thickness. Discussion is also taking place as to what features to include on the maps, such as rivers, roads and railways.
Second discussion here on another alternative for mapping data changes to existing maps in infoboxes for districts, boroughs and cities in the UK.
Thirdly a discussion on Wales maps in place infoboxes is under way here, which has branched out into a general discussion on the initiative by user Nilfanionhere.
It would be good if members take time to have a look at these various proposals and comment, where they feel they have some input to offer, as these proposals could potentially affect all of the UK articles with maps in their infoboxes. If you do not speak now then you will have to put up with the results!
WikiProject Yorkshire Collaboration of the Month Project
The August 2010 articles selected below are the editors choice as no one came up with any other suggestions on the project talk page.
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Regarding your comment on the AFD, I'd just like to raise the point that the Official Music Week Commercial Club Chart is not a particularly notable UK music chart, and for the purposes of WP:MUSIC only the UK Top 40 seems to be used. This is unlike American charts, where Billboard charts cover a variety of areas with some notability (a lot of hip-hop only ever making its respective charts, for example, whilst still garnering popularity). It may not change your opinion on the topic, but I thought I'd raise it for you to consider nonetheless. Esteffect (talk) 21:47, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your message on my talk page, but I don't think I ever said that this wasn't a reliable source, or was unacceptable for use on an article about a living person. If you look at the AFD for this article, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laura Steel, you'll see that I was one of the people arguing to keep it - I thought the sources were good enough. Are you sure you don't have me confused with someone else? Robofish (talk) 14:43, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, WP:YORKS has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 8,254 last month to 8,334 on August 29th). In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 56 is just behind WP:GM who have 58. WP:GM also has the lead in FAs at 47 out of a total number of 2,218 articles.
Currently we have twenty one Yorkshire featured articles:
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive (See this month's feature below)
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
and apropos of the above a 2010 New Year article improvement drive/collaboration is being organised.
Updates
Last month I brought your attention to the proposals for changes to maps in articles and the newer maps have started to be deployed on some of the Scotland and Wales articles. The English ones will follow on though there has been comments on the loss of some features so this may be revised before mass deployment.
The trial for the pending changes implementation has ended and after discussion a straw poll is under way and now is the time to voice your opinion over the trial and if pending changes should continue to be used or if it should be abandoned.
A further batch of about 10,000 images from the Geograph project has been uploaded to Commons. If you are looking for an image then there may be one available on Commons you just have to search for it! Many of the images are incorrectly categorised at the moment but these are being rectified as they are spotted. If you have time then you can give a hand checking out the image categorisation.
WikiProject Yorkshire Collaboration of the Month Project
The September 2010 articles selected below are the editors choice as no one came up with any other suggestions on the project talk page.
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This is not IISSpedia, but I think that institution is more reliable than a Serbian newspaper. There are many other reliable sources that you can use, as the official website of the Kosovo Security Force, the CIA Factbook, UN reports, other think tanks, etc. However I have not canceled your revision, but with many doubts. Bye. ;-) --Enok (talk) 21:26, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, WP:YORKS has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 8,334 last month to 8,468 on September 29th). In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 56 is just behind WP:GM who have 58. WP:GM also has the lead in FAs at 48 out of a total number of 2,228 articles.
Currently we have twenty one Yorkshire featured articles:
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive (See this month's feature below)
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
and apropos of the above a 2010 New Year article improvement drive/collaboration is being organised.
Wikipedia 0.8 release
Work is starting on preparing release 0.8 of the off line version of Wikipedia and the articles are in the selection stage. The initial selection has been done using some metrics about each of the articles. The number of projects that are interested in the article and the breadth of the individual projects. This is followed by the ratings of quality and importance that have been assigned to the article by each of the interested projects. There is also factored in what is termed the "External interest points" which is based on the number of hits the article gets, the number of unique internal links the article has and the number of inter-wiki links the article has. If you want more detail of the algorithm used then see here.
They have also selected a specific version of each of the articles that they consider is a stable version without vandalism using a version of the WikiTrust algorithm.
After all of this work they have come up with a selection of 116 articles that have been tagged as relevant to our project and these can be viewed here. We have a chance to influence this selection by reporting articles that people do not think are suitable or where an inappropriate version has been selected. It would also be a good idea to try and tidy up these articles before they get published if anyone has the time. Of the 116 the two articles that have been identified by tags as most needing attention are Asda and Rotherham. We have until October 11th to check out and report any problems or improved versions that need to be incorporated in to this release.
WikiProject Yorkshire Collaboration of the Month Project
The October 2010 articles selected below are the editors choice as no one came up with any other suggestions on the project talk page.
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Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, WP:YORKS has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 8,468 last month to 8,621 on October 29th). In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 57 is just behind WP:GM who have 58. WP:GM also has the lead in FAs at 49 out of a total number of 2,266 articles.
Currently we have twenty two Yorkshire featured articles:
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive (See this month's feature below)
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
and apropos of the above a 2010 New Year article improvement drive/collaboration is being organised.
Dead links
This month I thought that I would concentrate on the problem of link rot in articles. Many of you will have spotted a BOT tagging references with the {{Dead link}} template. The template is added when the external link in a reference is detected as being inaccessible or is a redirect to the main page of the site. You should not remove references that are marked as dead unless you are replacing the reference with a new reference. The information in the reference may be useful to someone trying to locate a valid reference for the text. In order to help this process, when adding references in the first place, add as much detail as possible. It is easier to put in the detail while the reference is in front of you rather than waste someone else's time having to fill in the detail. If you want more detail then see Wikipedia:Link rot.
Many of the project's articles have been tagged in this way by the BOT and it would be useful if members could take a look at the tagged references, when visiting a page, and see if the problem can be resolved. May be the link is now active again in which case it is just a simple task of removing the template. May be an archived copy of the link can be located at the Wayback Machine, just add the link to the reference, if it is templated use the =archiveurl & =archivedate paramerters to record the new location of the link. If the site has been restructured then it may be possible to locate the same page used in the reference by following the links from the home page of the site. In this case replace the URL in the reference and remove the tag. Finally a replacement reference may need to be located if copies of the existing reference cannot be tracked down. If a new reference is used then the old reference and the tag can be removed.
WikiProject Yorkshire Collaboration of the Month Project
The November 2010 articles selected below are the editors choice as no one came up with any other suggestions on the project talk page.
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Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, WP:YORKS has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 8,621 last month to 8,665 on November 29th). In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 62 is just ahead of WP:GM who have 60. WP:GM also has the lead in FAs at 49 out of a total number of 2,292 articles.
Currently we have twenty four Yorkshire featured articles:
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive (See this month's feature below)
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
and apropos of the above a 2010 New Year article improvement drive/collaboration is being organised.
Happy Christmas
Wishing all project members a Happy Christmas and thanks for all the work you have put in to the project over the last year. We have made great strides forward especially in the area of Good Articles
and this month we have a bumper set of seven articles trying for GA status. Some passed the review while others did not, but even a try moves an article forward. Thanks to ll those involved in these articles and keep up the good work.
Cleanup listing
Some members will know that we were subscribed to the clean-up listing that was produced on an occasional basis by a BOT. The BOT owner has left and has not released the source of the BOT for someone to pick-up. The last run of this BOT was in March of this year. Others have stepped in and produced a new tool that runs on the tool server to provide projects with similar information.
The clean-up listing gives details of all of the articles with the project's banner that have clean-up tags attached to them. The listing is in alphabetical order but can be sorted on class, importance or the number of different tags found in an article. If you want the listing grouped by the different tags then the tag grouped listing should be used.
According to the tool run dated 28 November of the 8,729 articles in this project 2,725 or 31.2% are marked for clean-up, though I am unsure how it gets the article count figure as that does not appear to match the counts from the assessment table.
WikiProject Yorkshire Collaboration of the Month Project
The December 2010 articles selected below are the editors choice as no one came up with any other suggestions on the project talk page.
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We are doing another activity check on members of Wikipedia:WikiProject Poland. I've noticed that you have not been active in the Poland-related articles in the past few months (we define it as doing 10 or more Poland-related edits per month in the last three months period), and as such I took the liberty to adjust your position in our Participants list from active to semi-active. Please note that this is just a method of keeping track of how many editors are currently active on Poland-related topics. Feel free to move yourself back if you disagree with this, and/or comment on WT:POLAND. In case you are not aware of that, our project has many active discussions on its talk page, we also list Poland-related article news (hee), Poland-related new articles for review (hee), Poland-related articles in need of cleanup (here), a listing of most popula Poland-related articles (here), a portal (here), and other tools. If the activity incrases, we would like to implement other tools, such as project A-class reviews and a newsletter. We are looking forward to seeing you around more often! Take care, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 21:30, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Ian;
you say that if the entry "were about Iran, then you would refer to it as Persian Gulf", but now that it isn't you won't. please understand the name of a geographic area is not for different people to choose what to call it. imagine the americans waking up one morning and suddenly deciding "hey, how about we call it the Gulf of USA instead of the Gulf of Mexico? ... just for kicks !!!" should the rest (or some of the rest) of the world follow suit?
judging by your profile, you are an educated person ... please do some research ... at the very least, do read the Persian Gulf naming dispute on Wikipedia ... it will tell you lots.
Thanks, Ian.
Regards,
Kamran (the Great) ;)
PS. LOL @ This user does not understand American English and doesn't bloody well want to :))
Kamran the Great (talk) 10:38, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
in response
Ian;
thanks for your understanding, and i do have to agree with you on the organization name.
I would, however, wish to maintain that the name of the Persian Gulf is not really, officially, a matter of any dispute... it is quite clear what it has been, is and should be called for millenia.
The other incorrect term is not merely "another name" for the Persian Gulf, but rather a politically-charged move which I am sure you have read about.
using the term "arabian gulf" is in direct violation of the directives and decisions of the United Nations. Note the Editorial Directive (ST/CS/SER.A/29/Add.2) issued by the Office of the Secretariat of the United Nations on August 18, 1994 regarding UN Editorial Directive ST/CS-SER.A/29.
The Editorial Directive (ST/CS/SER.A/29/Add.2 makes clear that:
Attention is once again drawn to Editoral Directive ST/CS-SER.A/29 and Corr.1 and Add.1 on the use of the term “Persian Gulf”. The purpose of the present addendum is to urge that care be taken to ensure the appropriate use of this term in documents, publications and statements prepared by the Secretariat. The full term “Persian Gulf” should be used in every case instead of the shorter term “Gulf” , including in repetitions of the term after its initial use in a text.
but i should stop boring you here!
PS. i'm Persian, but i speak American English ... sorry !!
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False consensus
This definition is the only one we should follow. And stop being rude to me, that is not welcome, and i will not allow that. All best, my friend. :) --WhiteWriter speaks 19:43, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
OK, one more time:
Proposition was to merge two infoboxes in one out of 3, and not to completely remove 2, and leave only one.
Therefor, vote was mislead, and one more time, WP:NOTDEMOCRATY.
Discussion lasted only 26 hours. That is waaay to little for such important articles under probation.
Per this, after your edit, people disagreed with that edit edit. So, your "consensus was questioned, and therefor, it was still in process. That is because it was implemented to swiftly, and because none offered ANY compromise, and therefor, probably failed few of those...
When we questioned all of this, you didn't participated. When we asked for a solution, or when we asked a question about this problems, and neutrality and few other important question's, you didn't answered. After other neutral solutions in RfC, that are not nationalistically driven, and after all of those people asked for status quo again, in clear wish to start again with regular, correct wiki way, and you and Zjarri are the only one who disagree, without any reason or argument then "I know the best, and my way is the best way", then i really dont know what to do next. Once more, instead teaching me google definitions, go to Kosovo talk page, and discuss with us, OPEN TO COMPROMISE, as we all will, and only then, we will find solution. --WhiteWriter speaks 20:47, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi. It seems we are up ahead a new intl recognition article. Do you think things will go smoothly or not?--Avala (talk) 21:59, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. Yeah Southern Sudan seems to be similar to Montenegro, although a lot of things could happen, especially regarding that Abyei region, the status of which is unclear (whether it goes north, south or on its own way). As you said, we'll see. Yeah I know Mateja Kežman, he played really well in the Netherlands but he has some sort of an attitude for which he is no longer invited to play for the national team. Anyway he showed this bad attitude only in the national team so Sheffield will certainly benefit from him. He is not in the same class as Vidić but he should be a good addition. Cheers --Avala (talk) 16:44, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
No worries. I actually didn't look into the matter in detail, so please don't take it as an accusation - I was really wanting to balance my criticism of the IP more than anything. The diff did look POV, but if you copied it from elsewhere - although you shouldn't, and particularly not from Metapedia, it seems - that explains it. Cheers. --FormerIP (talk) 02:46, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Cut and copy additions
Hi I saw your comment here - that you had cut and copied content into wikipedia from other sources, I see you have been here three years - is that something you have done before with your additions to articles? Off2riorob (talk) 14:10, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Not sure, just let me know if you don't want to discuss this - So what made you suddenly think it was within policy ? Off2riorob (talk) 19:25, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
To be honest I was ignorant in knowing if it was policy or not, it is not something I I've done before. As I said I was in the middle of uni work and I just C+P it for a basic article, then I was going to come back and edit it properly at a later date when I had some time on my hands. I just wanted to use it as a basis then contribute to the article later in more depth. Also like I said I had never heard of Metapedia before then, I had no idea that it was a White Nationalist site. But normally I wouldn't C+P anything unless I was referencing it on an article. The whole incident was rather embarrassing as I now know what I did was wrong, then there was being labelled as a "fascist" which isn't a pleasant thing to be called. To be honest I'd rather just forget about the whole issue now that it is has been resolved. Regards IJA (talk) 19:36, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Well, thanks for your open comments, your clarification at least saves me the time and tedium of going over your contributions, everyone makes mistakes and often in good faith so , don't take it to heart, regards. Off2riorob (talk) 20:12, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
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Agreed. It's important to make clear who is making these claims, especially due to that fact that the Serbian diplomat has clear motivation for overstating the likelihood of this happening. Ideally we'd find statements from the Djibouti government to support this, but I couldn't find any either. (I'm not even sure if it's possible to un-recognize a state, it seems kinda of ludicrous.) TDL (talk) 17:53, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
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In your neighbor - neighbour edit on Kosovo article, you accidentally removed some tags and redirects, and one paragraph that was already presented on other article. It probably happened as wiki linked few edits in a row. Please, just fix that. Thanks in advance! :) --WhiteWriter speaks 19:44, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
I know, that is so annoying, really don't understand why you cannot just edit or revert one edit without entire row. Well, we should send a angry letter to Jimbo! :) All best, man. --WhiteWriter speaks 21:49, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Belgrade-Pristina negotiations
All best, for a start of great understanding and cooperation, with music and sugar! :) --WhiteWriter speaks 22:26, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Is there an article for them? If not I propose the creation of such an article. IJA (talk) 16:36, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
Hm there must be one for the pre-2008 negotiations so I propose the expansion of that one as the current negotiations are rather low profile.--Avala (talk) 16:39, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
Sure, IJA, that is great idea! I am for Belgrade-Pristina negotiations title, as that was the moooost common name for that political situation in the media. You can surely start it, i will participate. Today is a bit of a mess day, so maybe tomorrow... :) --WhiteWriter speaks 09:56, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
I have proposed deletion in the talk page. As I explained it needs to be in Serbia's reaction to Kosovo's independence page. If that somehow doesn't suit you perhaps a page like Kosovo-Serbia relations which I'm sure exists as well. BTW I'm surprised avala is still alive. Took 3 years for a freaking split, I might now reconsider editing wp again. --Ari —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.29.82.3 (talk) 18:17, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
Great, man! Lets from now on edit only in this way! With great understanding and cooperation! I am happy! :) Here you are! Cake made in Serbia! :) --WhiteWriter speaks 22:26, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Yes, B92 is known in Serbia as media company that tries to be neutral in any situation, sometimes you really can find interesting stuff there! :) --WhiteWriter speaks 12:30, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
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Hey Ian, I noticed that you've put a maybe on the Manchester Wikimeetup attendees list. I've gone for a maybe too. How likely is it that you'll be going? (Oh and congrats on the degree too.) Cheers, Bazonka (talk) 13:39, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Nice one, sounds like we have a plan. I'll be arriving into Picadilly station which is on the opposite side of town from Victoria. I think the Waterhouse is about half-way between the two stations, so that's probably the best place to meet. My train gets in at 12.09 or 12.41 - I was planning on getting the later one and going straight to the pub, but if you really want I could get the earlier one and find you somewhere else. Cheers, Bazonka (talk) 16:54, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
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Hi IJA; it was good to meet you at the last Manchester wikimeet. The next one is scheduled for 17 September; I've set up a page on meta about it at meta:Meetup/Manchester - please sign up if you're coming. :-) Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:28, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
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