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Assignment 4

One issue with the " Oneirophrenia " wiki article is that is doesn't go into detail about the treatments provided for this disorder.

These are some references I found that we could use to add more information to Oneirophrenia. Meduna, L. J. (1950). Oneirophrenia; the confused state. Champaign, IL, US: University of Illinois Press. Turner, W. J. (1964). Schizophrenia and oneirophrenia: A clinical and biological note. Transactions Of The New York Academy Of Sciences, 26(3), 361-368. doi:10.1111/j.2164-0947.1964.tb01257.x

How much information do you want added to this article ? Is there a certain topic ( symptoms, treatments, etc.) about this article you want us to focus on? 22:33, 27 September 2016 (UTC)AlecsisJ (talk)alecsis.m.jezeski

• Regarding length, please see the announcement I just posted to Blackboard. Be sure to read Editing Wikipedia articles on psychology. Articles on disorders have to be done especially carefully. Yes - cover symptoms and treatments. Also keep in mind history. How has the conception and treatment of this disorder developed over time. J.R. Council (talk) 18:43, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Problem: The article has no real structure and just throws all the information together. This makes it hard to follow and difficult to find any specific information quickly.

References: Turner, W. J. (1964). Schizophrenia and oneirophrenia: A clinical and biological note. Transactions Of The New York Academy Of Sciences, 26(3), 361-368. doi:10.1111/j.2164-0947.1964.tb01257.x

Mayer-Gross, W. (1952). The diagnostic significance of certain tests of carbohydrate metabolism in psychiatric patients and the question of 'oneirophrenia.'. Journal Of Mental Science, 98683-686.

Questions: Is it best to start the article with the history of the disorder or the symptoms? Would it be useful to discuss specific cases? Greta.k.herschlip (talk) 00:41, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

• Yes. See my comment above to Alexsis. If there are any famous cases (like Tan or H.M.) you can mention them. However, going into specific case studies is probably too much detail. J.R. Council (talk) 18:43, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Problem: This article doesn't do a great job of describing what little information there is. I feel like it doesn't have great grammar, which I think is important for a wikipedia user. As well as there is no clear outline of where the article is going.

• Definitely part of your job is to improve the general quality of writing. Pay attention to organization and grammar. J.R. Council (talk) 18:43, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

References: (1) Wendell Muncie. (1952) "Oneirophrenia. The Confusional State. L. J. Meduna ," The Quarterly Review of Biology 27, no. 3: 332-333. doi:10.1086/399088

(2)Finkelstein, Z. (1953). "A STUDY IN SCHIZOPHRENIFORM PSYCHOSES" Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavica 28, no. 1: doi: 10.1111/j.1600-0447.1953.tb04673.x

Questions: A lot of the research and articles I found talk a lot about its relation to schizophrenia, would it be useful to talk about their similarities or just keep the article strictly to oneirophrenia?

• It seems like it has some overlap with schizophrenia, so that should be addressed. Information on differential diagnosis would be useful. J.R. Council (talk) 18:43, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Even though the article as it is now isn't very useful, can we still use bits and pieces to help tie into what we are going to be saying or should be completely start from scratch? Jaymiehansen (talk) 02:28, 28 September 2016 (UTC)Jaymie

• You should definitely NOT erase what is there and start from scratch. Edit what's there to improve grammar and organization, as well as adding new content. J.R. Council (talk) 18:43, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

To-Do List

• Edit the symptoms AlecsisJ (talk) 15:08, 14 October 2016 (UTC)alecsis
• Find treatments AlecsisJ (talk) 15:08, 14 October 2016 (UTC)alecsis
• Find major breakthroughs/ discoveries Jaymiehansen (talk) 03:39, 14 October 2016 (UTC)jaymie
• Relationship to schizophrenia? Jaymiehansen (talk) 03:39, 14 October 2016 (UTC)jaymie

Dr. Council's comments: This is okay, but pretty scanty. I don't see where Greta or Alecsis have contributed. J.R. Council (talk) 22:09, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Outline

• Oneirophrenia

AlecsisJ (talk) 15:08, 14 October 2016 (UTC)alecsis

i. symptoms

  ii. differences between oneirophrenia and schizophrenia
 iii. causes Jaymiehansen (talk) 03:50, 14 October 2016 (UTC)jaymie
     a. sleep deprivation
     b. sensory deprivation
     c. drug use

• Don't start a line with blank characters. That's what puts the text in a grayed-out box. I've moved "i. symptoms" over so you can see what I mean. J.R. Council (talk) 22:12, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

• Treatment

AlecsisJ (talk) 15:08, 14 October 2016 (UTC)alecsis

  i. Shock Therapy
 ii. no known cures Jaymiehansen (talk) 03:50, 14 October 2016 (UTC)jaymie

• History

AlecsisJ (talk) 15:08, 14 October 2016 (UTC)alecsis

  i.Famous cases
 ii. discoveries Jaymiehansen (talk) 03:50, 14 October 2016 (UTC)jaymie
     a. discovered in 50s 
     b. studied further throughout the 60s

• • • I made the three sections. Do you guys have any idea what we need to all do for the wiki page and how you want it to look?AlecsisJ (talk) 16:26, 12 October 2016 (UTC)alecsis

For this assignment, I can do the symptoms and the differences between oneirophrenia and schizophreniaAlecsisJ (talk) 15:57, 14 October 2016 (UTC)alecsis

As far as dividing up the tasks goes, it looks like we have 3 main headings so far! If you guys don't mind i could take on causes and relationship to schizophrenia section. Otherwise if one of you want that section I could take treatments too! Just let me know! Jaymiehansen (talk) 04:01, 14 October 2016 (UTC)jaymie

Dr. Council's comments on outline: Outline looks good. I still don't see any contributions from Greta. J.R. Council (talk) 22:12, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

References

MEDUNA, L. J., & McCULLOCH, W. S. (1946). Oneirophrenia, a clinicophysiologic syndrome. Archives Of Neurology And Psychiatry, 56483. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlecsisJ (talk • contribs) 16:18, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Turner, W. J. (1964). Schizophrenia and oneirophrenia: A clinical and biological note. Transactions Of The New York Academy Of Sciences, 26(3), 361-368. doi:10.1111/j.2164-0947.1964.tb01257.x comment added by AlecsisJ (talk • contribs) 16:18, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Meduna, L. J. (1950). Oneirophrenia; the confused state. Champaign, IL, US: University of Illinois Press.x comment added by AlecsisJ (talk • contribs) 16:18, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Wendell Muncie. (1952) "Oneirophrenia. The Confusional State. L. J. Meduna ," The Quarterly Review of Biology 27, no. 3: 332-333. doi:10.1086/399088 Jaymiehansen (talk) 03:58, 14 October 2016 (UTC)jaymie

Finkelstein, Z. (1953). "A STUDY IN SCHIZOPHRENIFORM PSYCHOSES" Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavica 28, no. 1: doi: 10.1111/j.1600-0447.1953.tb04673.x Jaymiehansen (talk)jaymie

Meduna LJ: Oneirophrenia: The Confusional State. Urbana, University of Illinois Press, 1950. OLD Jaymiehansen (talk) 03:58, 14 October 2016 (UTC)jaymie

Naranjo, C. (1969). "Psychotherapeutic possibilities of new fantasy-enhancing drugs." Clinical Toxicology 2(2):209 OLD Jaymiehansen (talk) 03:58, 14 October 2016 (UTC)jaymie

Piotr Popik and Stanley D. Glick: The Ibogaine Dossier OLD Jaymiehansen (talk) 03:58, 14 October 2016 (UTC)jaymie

Lead Section-Alecsis Jezeski

Oneirophrenia is a mental disorder that is commonly confused with schizophrenia. Oneirophrenia is a dream-like state caused by sleep deprivation, sensory deprivation and drug use and studied mostly by Ladisla J. Meduna in the 50s. People with oneirophrenia experience characteristics such as confusing, illusion and hallucinations ( Turner, 1964). They found that 50% of people diagnosed with schizophrenia experience oneirophrenia once it their life. On average, it remits about 60% within a two year period (Narango,1969). The treatment is still unknown.

References

Turner, W. J. (1964). Schizophrenia and oneirophrenia: A clinical and biological note. Transactions Of The New York Academy Of Sciences, 26(3), 361-368. doi:10.1111/j.2164-0947.1964.tb01257

Naranjo, C. (1969). "Psychotherapeutic possibilities of new fantasy-enhancing drugs." Clinical Toxicology 2(2):209

-I like that you added who did most of the research on the topic. Gives readers an idea of which important figures in the field contributed. I'd just double check your grammar in a few spots to make sure it flows well. Greta.k.herschlip (talk) 03:29, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

- I liked all the statistics you gave! I think that they really helped, I think the only thing we could briefly touch on is the treatment for the disorder. But other wise it looks really good! Jaymiehansen (talk) 3:37, 27 October 2016 (UTC)jaymie

Lead Section-Greta Herschlip

Oneirophrenia is a psychological condition involving a hallucinatory state, confusion, and overall disruptions to consciousness. This can be caused by things such as sleep or sensory deprivation and can result from drug use as well. Oneirophrenia severity can range from derealization to complete hallucinations and delusions. It is similar to the schizophrenia symptom of psychosis. It remits in 60% of cases within a period of two years (Naranjo 1969).

Greta.k.herschlip (talk) 01:51, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Naranjo, C. (1969). "Psychotherapeutic possibilities of new fantasy-enhancing drugs." Clinical Toxicology 2(2):209

• I like that you added some statistics. The only couple things I would recommend for this article is add your references and add more information on how its compared to schizophreniaAlecsisJ (talk) 03:07, 27 October 2016 (UTC)alecsis

• I thought this was a really good job! I think that we could add in more about the treatment and the fact that there aren't any known cures but otherwise it was really good! Jaymiehansen (talk) 3:33, 27 October 2016 (UTC)jaymie

Lead Section-Jaymie Hansen

Oneirophrenia is a mental disorder in which a sleep like state, hallucinations and confusions disrupt consciousness. Oneirophrenia is commonly thought to be caused by sleep and sensory deprivation and drug use. Oneirophrenia is commonly confused with an acute case of schizophrenia due to the outset of hallucinations. Because of this the severity can vary greatly. Oneirophrenia discovered in the 1950s but wasn’t actually studied much until the 1960s, which is when they found that it is very similar to schizophrenia. As of current there are no known cures for this mental disorder.

Meduna LJ: Oneirophrenia: The Confusional State. Urbana, University of Illinois Press, 1950. Turner, W. J. (1964). Schizophrenia and oneirophrenia: A clinical and biological note. Transactions Of The New York Academy Of Sciences, 26(3), 361-368. doi:10.1111/j.2164-0947.1964.tb01257.x

Jaymiehansen (talk) 3:26, 27 October 2016 (UTC)jaymie

• I thought this was very well written and very informative. The only thing I would add is more about how schizophrenia and oneirophrenia is different. AlecsisJ (talk) 02:56, 31 October 2016 (UTC)alecsis

Dr. Council's comments on your Lead Sections

All of these leads all very good. They are concise and informative. Overall, I think that Jaymie's lead is the best one to build on for the group lead you'll generate for Assignment 7. It starts with a nice definition, and points out the distinction from schizophrenia. Finally the note about history/development of the concept at the end is a good addition. Greta's and Alecsis's leads have some additional information that should be added to Jaymie's. J.R. Council (talk) 22:20, 1 November 2016 (UTC)Comb

Combined Lead

Oneirophrenia is a mental disorder in which a sleep like state, hallucinations and confusions disrupt consciousness. Oneirophrenia is commonly thought to be caused by sleep and sensory deprivation as well as drug use. Oneirophrenia is commonly confused with an acute case of schizophrenia due to the onset of hallucinations (Meduna, 1950). The severity of this condition can range from derealization to complete hallucinations and delusions. Oneirophrenia was described for the first time in the 1950s by Ladisla J. Meduna but wasn’t actually studied much until the 1960s, which is when they found that it is very similar to schizophrenia (Turner, 1964). They have found that 50% of people diagnosed with schizophrenia experience Oneirophrenia at least once in their lifetime. It has been found to remit in 60% of cases within a period of two years (Naranjo 1969). Currently there are no known cures for this mental disorder.AlecsisJ (talk) 15:26, 4 November 2016 (UTC)alecsisj Greta.k.herschlip (talk) 18:16, 7 November 2016 (UTC) Jaymiehansen (talk) 18:40, 7 November 2016 (UTC)jaymie

• I started the combined lead section based off Dr.Council's comments. You guys are welcome to add, delete or edit it. AlecsisJ (talk) 15:26, 4 November 2016 (UTC)alecsisj

• I changed some of the sentences a little so they would flow better and changed a few of the terms to make it a little more concise. Greta.k.herschlip (talk) 18:16, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

• I think that this looks perfect! It flows really well. Do you think that it covers everything that we should be touching on? Jaymiehansen (talk) 15:44, 7 November 2016 (UTC)jaymie

Dr. Council's comments on your combined lead

Nice job - this is well organized and informative! However, there are some more edits needed for it to be acceptable as a Wikipedia lead:

1. You are not putting your references into proper Wikipedia format. If you don't know how to do this, use the resource materials provided for this class to learn about doing references either with Wiki code or the drop down menus when you use the visual editor.
2. Some of this is poorly written, with clumsy phrasing and grammatical errors. It needs to be carefully proofread and edited. Here's is an example: "Oneirophrenia was described for the first time in the 1950s by Ladisla J. Meduna but wasn’t actually studied much until the 1960s, which is when they found that it is very similar to schizophrenia (Turner, 1964)."
3. There is too much specific information. I have put this in italics. You should move this to sections in the main article on prevalence and treatment.

When you do this, let me know and proceed to developing the main article for Assignment 8. J.R. Council (talk) 01:22, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

References

Meduna LJ: Oneirophrenia: The Confusional State. Urbana, University of Illinois Press, 1950. Turner, W. J. (1964). Schizophrenia and oneirophrenia: A clinical and biological note. Transactions Of The New York Academy Of Sciences, 26(3), 361-368. doi:10.1111/j.2164-0947.1964.tb01257.x AlecsisJ (talk) 15:26, 4 November 2016 (UTC)alecsisj

Naranjo, C. (1969). "Psychotherapeutic possibilities of new fantasy-enhancing drugs." Clinical Toxicology 2(2):209AlecsisJ (talk) 15:26, 4 November 2016 (UTC)alecsisj

Turner, W. J. (1964). Schizophrenia and oneirophrenia: A clinical and biological note. Transactions Of The New York Academy Of Sciences, 26(3), 361-368. doi:10.1111/j.2164-0947.1964.tb01257AlecsisJ (talk) 15:26, 4 November 2016 (UTC)alecsisj

Assignment 8: Oneirophrenia

Oneirophrenia is a mental disorder in which a sleep like state, hallucinations, and confusion disrupt consciousness. Oneirophrenia is commonly thought to be caused by sleep and sensory deprivation as well as drug use. Oneirophrenia is often confused with an acute case of schizophrenia due to the onset of hallucinations. The severity of this condition can range from derealization to complete hallucinations and delusions. Oneirophrenia was described for the first time in the 1950s but was studied more in the 1960s Greta.k.herschlip (talk) 19:31, 23 November 2016 (UTC) AlecsisJ (talk) 19:18, 23 November 2016 (UTC)alecsis Jaymiehansen (talk) 21:29, 23 November 2016

History

Oneirophrenia was described for the first time in the 1950s by neurologist and psychiatrist Ladisla J. Meduna. Meduna was also known as the discoverer of a specific form of shock therapy. Although oneirophrenia was recognized as specific condition in the 1950's, it was not studied in depth until the 1960s. During its beginning stages oneriophrenia was studied very closely with Schizophrenia as an acute form due to the relationship between their symptoms. It wasn't until greater research that oneirophrenia became its own mental disease. . Jaymiehansen (talk) 21:29, 23 November 2016 (UTC)Jaymie

Symptoms

Oneirophrenia is often described as a dream-like state that can lead to hallucinations and confusion. Feelings and emotions are often disturbed but information from the senses in left in tact seperating it from true schizophrenia. Greta.k.herschlip (talk) 19:31, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Differences between oneirophrenia and schizophrenia

Oneirophenia and schizophrenia are often confused although there are distinct differences between the conditions. Oneiophrenia often begins with the inability to focus on things while schizophrenia frequently starts with a traumatic event. They have found that 50% of people diagnosed with schizophrenia experience oneirophrenia at least once in their lifetime. It has been found to remit in 60% of cases within a period of two years. AlecsisJ (talk) 19:18, 23 November 2016 (UTC)alecsis Greta.k.herschlip (talk) 18:49, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Causes

Oneirophrenia can result from long periods of sleep deprivation or extreme sensory deprivation. The hallucinations in oneirophrenia are increased or derive under decreased sensory input. It can also be caused by drugs such as ibogaine, which has previously been used to induce the dream like state in some forms of treatment. . AlecsisJ (talk) 19:18, 23 November 2016 (UTC)alecsis Greta.k.herschlip (talk) 19:31, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Treatment

There is currently no known treatment for oneiophrenia. It has been found that 50% of people diagnosed with schizophrenia experience oneirophrenia at least once in their lifetime. It has also been found to remit in 60% of cases within a period of two years. Greta.k.herschlip (talk) 19:31, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Dr. Council's comments on article

Congratulations! This article is just about ready to publish. There is just one problem that needs fixing, the section titled 'Differences between oneirophrenia and schizophrenia'. This is poorly written, and needs major proof reading. Many problems with spelling and grammar. It also needs to be rewritten more formally. Don't say things like, "Oneiophrenia is known to start to when you unable to focus and pay attention to things while as schziophrenia starts with trema."

• Once you fix up this section, I think the article is ready to go.
• I am sending the link to Ian, who will probably have additional suggestions. J.R. Council (talk) 04:45, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

References

Greta.k.herschlip (talk) 19:31, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

AlecsisJ (talk) 19:18, 23 November 2016

Jaymiehansen (talk) 21:30, 23 November 2016 (UTC)jaymie

FINAL

Oneirophrenia (from the Greek words "ὄνειρος" (oneiros, "dream") and "φρενός" (phrenos, "mind")) is a hallucinatory, dream-like state caused by several conditions such as prolonged sleep deprivation, sensory deprivation, or drugs (such as ibogaine). Oneirophrenia is often confused with an acute case of schizophrenia due to the onset of hallucinations. The severity of this condition can range from derealization to complete hallucinations and delusions. Oneirophrenia was described for the first time in the 1950s but was studied more in the 1960s. Although it is still cited in diagnostic manuals of psychiatry, such as DSM-IV and in the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems (ICD), oneirophrenia as a separate entity is out of fashion nowadays.

History

Oneirophrenia was studied in the 1950s by the neurologist and psychiatrist Ladislas J. Meduna (1896–1964), also known as the discoverer of one of the forms of shock therapy, using the drug metrazol. Although oneirophrenia was recognized as a specific condition in the 1950's, it was not studied in depth until the 1960s. During its beginning stages oneriophrenia was studied very closely with schizophrenia as an acute form due to the relationship between their symptoms. It wasn't until greater research that oneirophrenia became its own mental disease. .

Symptoms

Oneirophrenia is often described as a dream-like state that can lead to hallucinations and confusion. Feelings and emotions are often disturbed but information from the senses in left in tact separating it from true schizophrenia.

Differences between oneirophrenia and schizophrenia

Oneirophenia and schizophrenia are often confused although there are distinct differences between the conditions. Oneirophrenia has some of the characteristics of simple schizophrenia, such as a confusional state and clouding of consciousness, but without presenting the dissociative symptoms which are typical of that disorder. Oneiophrenia often begins with the inability to focus on things while schizophrenia frequently starts with a traumatic event. Persons affected by oneirophrenia have a feeling of dream-like derealization which, in its extreme form, may progress to delusions and hallucinations. Therefore, it is considered a schizophrenia-like acute form of psychosis which remits in about 60% of cases within a period of two years. It is estimated that 50% or more of schizophrenic patients present oneirophrenia at least once..

Causes

Oneirophrenia can result from long periods of sleep deprivation or extreme sensory deprivation. The hallucinations in oneirophrenia are increased or derive under decreased sensory input. Psychoanalysts, such as Claudio Naranjo, in the sixties have described the value of ibogaine-induced oneirophrenia for inducing and manipulating free fantasy and dream-like associations in patients under treatment. It can also be caused by drugs such as ibogaine, which has previously been used to induce the dream like state in some forms of treatment. .

Oneirophrenic patients are resistant to insulin and when injected with glucose, these patients take 30 to 50% longer to return to normal glycemia. The meaning of this finding is not known, but it has been hypothesized that it may be due to an insulin antagonist present in the blood during psychosis. However, There is currently no known treatment for oneiophrenia.

References

• Meduna LJ: Oneirophrenia: The Confusional State. Urbana, University of Illinois Press, 1950.
• Naranjo, C. (1969). "Psychotherapeutic possibilities of new fantasy-enhancing drugs." Clinical Toxicology 2(2):209
• Piotr Popik and Stanley D. Glick: The Ibogaine Dossier
• Turner, W. J. (1964). Schizophrenia and oneirophrenia: A clinical and biological note. Transactions Of The New York Academy Of Sciences, 26(3)

References

Category:Neurological disorders Category:Historical and obsolete mental and behavioural disorders