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Gelnd (talk) 17:26, 1 April 2011 (UTC)Passages with errors that have been removed on April 1:
Passage 1 Through "psychic clues" he predicted that an excavation there would find "carvings, paintings, wooden ankhs, cured leather and parchment scrolls with hieroglyphiclike writing" as well as an underground tunnel system, domesticated horses and other artifacts, none of which were actually found at the site.[2]
What is actually written the book PSYCHIC ARCHEOLOGY (1977, p. 134) is: “Aron’s (one of the psychics discussed in the book) readings on the hypothetical full-scale excavation said that we would find evidence of other sophisticated practices as well – carvings, paintings, wooden ankhs, cured leather, and parchment scrolls with hieroglyphiclike writing. He even cited a mysterious underground tunnel system.” The quotation used in the Wikipedia article makes it seem that Goodman himself predicted these things, which is false. This is also contrary to the discussion in the book on p. 108 where Goodman tells how he made a list of Aron’s predictions for a 30 foot deep, 10 foot wide test shaft he was going to dig which says: “I had the predictions notarized and distributed copies of them to friends and enemies alike. Following the advice of my psychology professor, I sought an independent control on the predictions.” The illustration insert of the book that follows p. 112 shows this list of predictions made for the test shaft and the predictions made by two archeology professors who served as a control. Aron’s predictions for the test shaft basically mentions different types of stone tools that would be found at each depth. There is no mention of wooden ankhs and scrolls and such as the falsely attributed quotation states. The passage used in the article is false and misleading.
Passage 2
He stated that he had found what he considered were the most important artifacts in human history.
This statement does not appear in Goodman’s books. Interestingly, in his book AMERICAN GENESIS (1981) a statement somewhat like this appears on p. 214: “Marshack said that if we could resolve these problems then the “Flagstaff stone” would be one of the most important artifacts ever found in the entire world.” 11 [Personal communication from Alexander Marshack, March 21, 1980.] It seems that the editor of this passage took this sentence and twisted it a bit and then attributed it to Goodman which is false. Also note that Marshack’s statement only refers to the Flagstaff stone, singular not plural. But, the false statement uses the plural (“most important artifacts”).
Passage 3
These were known as the "Flagstaff Stone" and the "Native First People Stone."
In Goodman’s books he wrote about an engraved stone which he calls the “Flagstaff Stone,” but he has not have written about a so-called “Native First People Stone.” Nowhere in his writings does he write about the discovery of a second stone. The sentence in this passage is false and brings up the issue of vandalism. Thus, reference to a so-called “Native People Stone” needs to be removed.
Passage 4
However, it's not a stone. It's in fact a piece of tuff
This passage says that the (Flagstaff) stone is not a stone but a piece of tuff. This passage is false because geologically speaking the “tuff” the editor refers to can also be called a “stone.” THE DICTIONARY OF GEOLOGICAL TERMS (1962, p. 512) defines “tuff” as “a rock formed of compacted volcanic fragments,” and it defines “stone” as a small piece of “rock” (p. 473). Webster’s defines “tuff” as “a rock composed of volcanic detritus.” Further, it is interesting to note that in none of Goodman’s published works does he refer to the stone as a “tuff.” In AMERICAN GENESIS (p. 211) he refers to the Flagstaff stone as “a piece of hard volcanic ash.” The editor gives no citation for saying that the stone is a “tuff.”
Goodman has a professional degree in Geological Engineering from Colorado School of Mines (1964) and this passage seems to make it seem that he does not know what a “stone” or “tuff” is. In AMERICAN GENESIS (p. 215) he tells of having the Flagstaff Stone studied by two different petrographers (from different universities) who specialize in volcanic rocks of this type. In THE GENESIS MYSTERY (p. 218) he tells how Dr. Virginia Steen-McIntyre, a tephrachronologist also examined the stone.
Passage 5
This artifact may or may not be associated with the Flagstaff site. It has glyphic markings that have been interpreted as astronomical and calendrical and "considered by some to be to be the oldest written document in the world." Virginia Steen-McIntyre (a "tephrachronologist") dated it at around 250,000 years ago. [1]
There is no direct citation for this passage, and as noted above Goodman has not published anything about a so-called “Native First People Stone.” While Dr. Virginia Steen – McIntyre a tephrachronologist did put a minimum date of 100,000 years on the Flagstaff stone (THE GENESIS MYSTERY, 1983, p. 218) Goodman did not publish anything about her dating it at around 250,000 year age, or about “glyphic markings.” In AMERICAN GENESIS (p. 214 and 215) he wrote about the “geometric arrangement of the groves” and “the geometric pattern” of the line work on the stone. This passage using the term “glyphic markings” is misleading, because in archeology it carries a very different set of implications that make his work seem far more sensationalistic.
Passage 6
that his claims of having a Ph.D in psychic archaeology may be false; Cole argues it seems like an unlikely degree, and that the school from which he obtained it is given no credit.[3] Goodman has never claimed to have a Ph.D. in psychic archeology. A book review called “Notable – AMERICAN GENESIS” in Time Magazine (June 19, 1981) says, “The author, who holds a doctorate in anthropology.” The dust jacket of the book GENESIS MYSTERY says that “Jeffrey Goodman, Ph.D. holds a doctorate in anthropology, and the dust jacket of his book AMERICAN GENESIS says “in addition to his doctorate in anthropology.” In his new book THE COMETS OF GOD (2010) p. 576 gives a list of his degrees: “Jeffrey Goodman received a professional degree in Geological Engineering from Colorado School of Mines, a MA in anthropology from the University of Arizona, a MBA from Columbia University Graduate School of Business, and a Ph.D. in anthropology from California Coast University. He was accredited by the former Society of Professional Archeologists from 1978 to 1987.”
A review of his book THE COMETS OF GOD in ForeWord Reviews (January 6, 2011 www.forewordreviews.com ) says, “He holds a geological engineering degree from the Colorado School of Mines, a M.A. in anthropology from the University of Arizona, and a Ph.D. in anthropology from California Coast University. He also earned a M.B.A. from Columbia University Graduate School of Business.” This passage in the article seems to be written to disparage and smear.
Passage 7 Jeffrey Goodman is a proponent and practicer of psychic archaeology. He believes Homo sapiens arose out of California 500,000 years ago and this idea is the driving force behind much of his work. His influences include Edgar Cayce, known for his strong Atlantis channeling, and Stephan Schwartz. [1] This is a series of mischaracterizations. While Goodman has been a proponent and practitioner of psychic archeology, he parted ways with these things in 1987 after he became a Christian. The major influence for his book on psychic archeology did not come from Edgar Cayce, or Stephen Schwarz. On page 89-90 of PSYCHIC ARCHEOLOGY he tells how a series of dreams he had about making an important archeological discovery is what influenced him to take on psychic archeology. Stephen Schwartz got involved with this subject long after he began working on it. This again seems to be another passage written to disparage and smear.
Passage 8
self-published This may be a small point, but in 2010 after writing 5 books for major publishers, and acting as a start to finish consultant in getting several books successfully published; Goodman has formed his own publishing company called Archeological Research Books, LLC. Archeological Research Books is the publisher of The Comets of God. Regarding the quality of this publication ForeWord Reviews (www.forewordreviews.com January 6, 2011) wrote: “This astute writer knows how to present his hypothesis in a concise delivery backed by an extensive bibliography, notes, and citations.” Goodman has a MBA and understands the business of book publishing and book promotion. Archeological Research Books already has several completed manuscripts to publish over the next few years, including a manuscript about ancient mathematics that Goodman pulled back from publication after Viking Publishing accepted the finished manuscript a number of years ago, a manuscript about Archeo-Linguistics and Biblical Meditation, and several manuscripts others have written. Baker and Taylor, the largest library wholesaler has agreed to carry Archeological Research’s books. Goodman has been writing articles and a blog: www.newscientificevidenceforgod.com
Book publishing is a full time job for Goodman. Archeological Research Books belongs to several small and independent publishing associations and should be considered a small independent publisher rather than a self publisher.
Passage 9 Under Goodman’s list of publications the article lists: • The Origins of Mathematics and Science in Prehistoric America No citation is given for this publication and Goodman has not yet published anything on this subject. If anyone has a copy of one of Goodman’s early manuscripts on this subject, they may be in violation of his common law copyright. Passage 10 Stephen Williams In his book Fantastic Archaeology: The Wild Side of the North American Prehistory, Stephen Williams says “he [Goodman] commits an intellectual crime on the very people he seeks spiritually to uplift with his discoveries, the Native Americans.” Here Williams is referring to Goodman’s excavations of Flagstaff, Arizona and his attempted re-writing of American Indian prehistory[1] As shown above in passages 2, 3, 4, 5, and 7 Williams has made substantial errors regarding facts and quotes and his criticism is not neutral and not qualified.