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[edit]Lenin, version 02:34, 25 July 2024
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Lenin, version 02:34, 25 July 2024
InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) made some suggestions at Need_suggestions_for_Draft:Nguyen_Ngoc_Bich, in particular, read WP:ESSAY, Wikipedia:Writing better articles, WP:NPOV, WP:MOS.
Below are the features of this revised version based on these suggestions:
- Biography models: Lenin, Qian_Xuesen, Roger_Y._Tsien: I used these articles as biography models, while including extensive and precise Notes with quotations from on authoritative history books. I identify the following problems that are solved in the format that I created for the present article Draft:Nguyen Ngoc Bich:
- Problems in Lenin, version 02:34, 25 July 2024: In Section Rererences, there are "footnotes," which are actually "citations," whereas the actual references are in Section "Bibliography." Very confusing. There are just three and very thin Notes, with no quotations. The statements in the article are thus not easy to verify. The foreign-language sources are not easily accessible. In contrast, the article Nakba, version at 21:11, 24 July 2024 has extensive quotations, mixed with references, and is thus still not well organized as in the present article Draft:Nguyen Ngoc Bich (see also "Verifiability and readability" below).
- Problems in Qian Xuesen, version 10:40, 17 July 2024: In Section References, there are citations mixed with references, with no Notes. Citing the same reference, but with different page numbers, led to many duplicated lines (with different page numbers), e.g., citations No.32-34, 36-37, 39-40, 43, etc. are all from the reference Chang (1995), to which there is no link. One has to scroll down to find the book by Chang (1995) in Section "Sources," Subsection "Work cited." There is thus no links to connect the citations to the book and vice versa. The present format in Draft:Nguyen Ngoc Bich is more compact, avoiding repetitions (with the cited page numbers next to the cited reference as superscripts in the text), and with forward and backward links between the citations, notes, and references.
- Problems in Roger_Y._Tsien: Notes and quotations are mixed with references.
- Verifiability and readability: Unlike the article Lenin---which has extensive references, but few quotations from the referred sources, and thus left much to be desired (such as it is hard to access certain foreigh-language sources to verify)---the article Nakba, version at 21:11, 24 July 2024, also had extensive quotations, mixed with the references, in its Section References, and therefore quite messy. Here, I designed a format that allows for quotations from authoritative sources to be gathered in Section Notes, and yet keep the Notes (with quotations) separated from the references (which are not mixed with quotations). Flexibility: There can be as many sources as needed that can be cited in each Note, and each Note can include references to other Notes. This is not possible using the template {{efn}} and {{sfn}}, since it is not possible to refer to another Note within a Note.
- Avoiding problem with {{efn}} in image caption: When using the template {{efn}} in image caption, there is an error, as documented in Section "Error when using {{Efn}} in figure captions and galleries" in c:User talk:Egm4313. Using the present format, there is no such error when referring to a Note in an image caption.
- Style, version 22:14, 22 March 2023: Inverted pyramid: The most important historical facts that yielded notability are presented first, followed by facts with decreasing importance and/or notability. See also Information style and tone.
- New structure with shortened titles: Broke down the article into smaller sections with concise titles in WP:NPOV style (removed praising adjectives). See Point 4 "Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each" in Wikipedia:Good article criteria, which is referred to in Wikipedia:Good articles.
- Additional historical facts with extensive references: Extended the article to add many historical facts surrounding Nguyen Ngoc Bich, together with extensive references and notes. See Point 2 "Verifiable with no original research" in Wikipedia:Good article criteria, which is referred to in Wikipedia:Good articles.
- Historic photos: Added relevant historic photos to pique the interest of readers. "A picture is worth a thousand words." An article without pictures is boring. See Point 6 "Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio" in Wikipedia:Good article criteria, which is referred to in Wikipedia:Good articles.
Updated Egm4313.s12 (talk) 16:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC) - Started Egm4313.s12 (talk) 13:37, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
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Nguyen Ngoc Bich articles
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Karl Pister from 27 June 1925 to 14 May 2022 (aged 96)
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Nguyen Ngoc Bich on Citizendium.
Karl Pister
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Universal Code of Conduct Committee - Vote
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Plaine des Joncs
[edit]Plain of Reeds, Vietnam War Travel
The development of the Plain of Reeds, Rand Corporation, 1969
Web search "vietnam+plain+of+reeds"
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Episode 17: Cochinchina is Burning - America's First Casualty in Vietnam
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I am back and have verified the issue of LIFE, 1968 Mar 22, Vol. 64, No. 12, which is also included below the photo of Ho Chi Minh, Leclerc, Sainteny (1946) on Flickr.
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Bao Dai to de Gaulle ❝I beg you to understand that the only means of safeguarding French interests and the spiritual influence of France in Indochina is to recognize the independence of Vietnam unreservedly and to renounce any idea of reestablishing French sovereignty or rule here in any form. . . . Even if you were to reestablish the French administration here, it would not be obeyed, and each village would be a nest of resistance. . . . We would be able to understand each other so easily and become friends if you would stop hoping to become our masters again.❞ --- Bao Dai, message to de Gaulle on 1945 Aug 20
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[edit]| “ | I beg you to understand that the only means of safeguarding French interests and the spiritual influence of France in Indochina is to recognize the independence of Vietnam unreservedly and to renounce any idea of reestablishing French sovereignty or rule here in any form. . . . Even if you were to reestablish the French administration here, it would not be obeyed, and each village would be a nest of resistance. . . . We would be able to understand each other so easily and become friends if you would stop hoping to become our masters again. | ” |
| — Bao Dai, message to de Gaulle on 1945 Aug 20[1] | ||
| “ | I beg you to understand that the only means of safeguarding French interests and the spiritual influence of France in Indochina is to recognize the independence of Vietnam unreservedly and to renounce any idea of reestablishing French sovereignty or rule here in any form. . . . Even if you were to reestablish the French administration here, it would not be obeyed, and each village would be a nest of resistance. . . . We would be able to understand each other so easily and become friends if you would stop hoping to become our masters again.
I beg you to understand that the only means of safeguarding French interests and the spiritual influence of France in Indochina is to recognize the independence of Vietnam unreservedly and to renounce any idea of reestablishing French sovereignty or rule here in any form. . . . Even if you were to reestablish the French administration here, it would not be obeyed, and each village would be a nest of resistance. . . . We would be able to understand each other so easily and become friends if you would stop hoping to become our masters again. |
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[edit]❝ I beg you to understand that the only means of safeguarding French interests and the spiritual influence of France in Indochina is to recognize the independence of Vietnam unreservedly and to renounce any idea of reestablishing French sovereignty or rule here in any form. . . . Even if you were to reestablish the French administration here, it would not be obeyed, and each village would be a nest of resistance. . . . We would be able to understand each other so easily and become friends if you would stop hoping to become our masters again.❞
— Bao Dai, message to de Gaulle on 1945 Aug 20[1]
❝ I beg you to understand that the only means of safeguarding French interests and the spiritual influence of France in Indochina is to recognize the independence of Vietnam unreservedly and to renounce any idea of reestablishing French sovereignty or rule here in any form. . . . Even if you were to reestablish the French administration here, it would not be obeyed, and each village would be a nest of resistance. . . . We would be able to understand each other so easily and become friends if you would stop hoping to become our masters again.
I beg you to understand that the only means of safeguarding French interests and the spiritual influence of France in Indochina is to recognize the independence of Vietnam unreservedly and to renounce any idea of reestablishing French sovereignty or rule here in any form. . . . Even if you were to reestablish the French administration here, it would not be obeyed, and each village would be a nest of resistance. . . . We would be able to understand each other so easily and become friends if you would stop hoping to become our masters again.❞
— Bao Dai, message to de Gaulle on 1945 Aug 20[1]
❝ I beg you to understand that the only means of safeguarding French interests and the spiritual influence of France in Indochina is to recognize the independence of Vietnam unreservedly and to renounce any idea of reestablishing French sovereignty or rule here in any form. . . . Even if you were to reestablish the French administration here, it would not be obeyed, and each village would be a nest of resistance. . . . We would be able to understand each other so easily and become friends if you would stop hoping to become our masters again.
I beg you to understand that the only means of safeguarding French interests and the spiritual influence of France in Indochina is to recognize the independence of Vietnam unreservedly and to renounce any idea of reestablishing French sovereignty or rule here in any form. . . . Even if you were to reestablish the French administration here, it would not be obeyed, and each village would be a nest of resistance. . . . We would be able to understand each other so easily and become friends if you would stop hoping to become our masters again.❞
— Bao Dai, message to de Gaulle on 1945 Aug 20[1]
❝ I beg you to understand that the only means of safeguarding French interests and the spiritual influence of France in Indochina is to recognize the independence of Vietnam unreservedly and to renounce any idea of reestablishing French sovereignty or rule here in any form. . . . Even if you were to reestablish the French administration here, it would not be obeyed, and each village would be a nest of resistance. . . . We would be able to understand each other so easily and become friends if you would stop hoping to become our masters again.
I beg you to understand that the only means of safeguarding French interests and the spiritual influence of France in Indochina is to recognize the independence of Vietnam unreservedly and to renounce any idea of reestablishing French sovereignty or rule here in any form. . . . Even if you were to reestablish the French administration here, it would not be obeyed, and each village would be a nest of resistance. . . . We would be able to understand each other so easily and become friends if you would stop hoping to become our masters again.❞
— Bao Dai, message to de Gaulle on 1945 Aug 20[1]
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[edit]I beg you to understand that the only means of safeguarding French interests and the spiritual influence of France in Indochina is to recognize the independence of Vietnam unreservedly and to renounce any idea of reestablishing French sovereignty or rule here in any form. . . . Even if you were to reestablish the French administration here, it would not be obeyed, and each village would be a nest of resistance. . . . We would be able to understand each other so easily and become friends if you would stop hoping to become our masters again.
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[edit]Comment: mixed referencing format. stick to one, either footnotes or inline citations. for biographies, it is highly encouraged to use inline citations. – robertsky (talk) 13:41, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
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Joseph Buttinger
[edit]Joseph Buttinger: no image as of 24.1.20
Search South Vietnam Foreign Minister Tran Van Lam
South Vietnam Foreign Minister Tran Van Lam with Joseph Buttinger CC-BY-2.0 Douglas Pike Photograph Collection - Vietnam Center and Archive
Vietnam National Museum of History
[edit]Musee Louis Finot
[edit]From c:File:Le_Grand_Etat-Major_des_Troupes_Caodaïstes.jpg, I found:
c:User:源義信, c:User:源義信/Waiting_for_imports, Musée Louis Finot, nay là Bảo tàng Lịch sử Việt Nam, Zoom-out image of the museum with a stele on the left
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Google search for "Đông Dương Bác Cổ, nay là Bảo tàng lịch sử Việt Nam, Hà Nội", Image search
From the above image search, I found these nice architecture articles: Nét Đẹp Kiến Trúc Đông Dương Ở Hà Nội Qua Các Công Trình, #1 Phong Cách Kiến Trúc Đông Dương Là Gì? – ICON INTERIOR
Older stuff
[edit]Google map showing the museum is near the river front as noted in Archimedes Patti's book, Why Viet Nam? pdf p.181.
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"Spamming own work," official rule or personal preference?
[edit]DONE, I moved the draft (which I deleted here) to the end of Section "Spamming own work," official rule or personal preference? in Commons. Egm4313.s12 (talk) 13:23, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Spam § External link spamming
Map removers
[edit]Document here the two map removers in Wikipedia and the map remover in Vietnamese Wikipedia.
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[edit]2023.12.23: In c:File:1945 Aug Archimedes Patti, Vo Nguyen Giap.png I even cited my name as author since 22:03, 22 July 2023: "for more details, see Vu Quoc Loc (2023), Notes on Vietnam history, Inernet Archive."
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Citation spamming
[edit]Moved to Wikimedia Commons User_talk:Egm4313.s12 § Citation spam, official rule.
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Incorrect description in Vietnamese pronouns
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