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The Workshop

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This page is for new articles under construction, or for existing articles going through a lengthy restructuring. Only one article should be present here at any one time.

Current page in the workshop:

Link Monitor

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Just in case someone else gets in first...

Major Project

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<<<<< Ilfracombe Branch Line >>>>>

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  • Well under way now.
  • Still need to work through the two books and add details.
  • Perhaps need a more co-ordinated approach?
  • Suggested that route map should be re-drawn with Ilfracombe at the top (07 Jan 2011)

Plan of Action

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  1. Fix links in Barnstaple
  2. Create redirect pages for Ilfracombe, Braunton, Wrafton
  3. Fix links in Barnstaple stations: Junction, Quay, Town
  4. Fix Ilfracombe links...
    (change to Ilfracombe railway station or Ilfracombe Branch Line):
    1. <Add here>
  5. Expand redirect to full Station article:
    1. Ilfracombe railway station
  6. Link to/from village/town page, per station:
    1. Ilfracombe railway station
    2. Mortehoe and Woolacombe railway station
    3. Barnstaple stations: Junction, Quay, Town
  7. Wikify book references
  8. Need to create (and link) Devon Belle article
  9. Search for other pages that quote Atlantic Coast Express?
  10. Add more details for locos
  11. Increase detail on own page, summarise and cross link from Branch page, per station:
    1. Ilfracombe railway station
    2. Mortehoe and Woolacombe railway station
    3. Barnstaple stations: Junction, Quay, Town
  12. ...everything else...
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  • Check pages that link to Barnstaple
  • Check pages that link to Ilfracombe

Subsections

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(1) Intro

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  • Need a quick description of the line
  • Not very happy with it at present!

(2) History

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  • Currently goes from birth to death with little in between
  • Nothing about construction or geology of area

(3) Stations

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  • Need to completely revise coverage: need summary of stations (poss in a box?) and move details to the individual stations
  • Check out Sub-britannia for details and pictures of all the stations on the line!

Barnstaple Junction station

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  • Provide adequate summary
  • move details to individual station page

Barnstaple Quay station

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  • Provide adequate summary
  • move details to individual station page

Barnstaple Town station

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  • Provide adequate summary
  • move details to individual station page

Wrafton station

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  • Add details from ref books
  • NB Wrafton station does NOT need an individual page
  • Ensure Wrafton is kept up-to-date!

Braunton

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  • Add details from ref books
  • NB Braunton station does NOT need an individual page
  • Ensure Braunton is kept up-to-date!

Mortehoe and Woolacombe station

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  • Provide adequate summary
  • move details to individual station page

Ilfracombe station

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  • Provide adequate summary
  • move details to individual station page
  • Some links to the branch line would be better pointing to this page.
  • Probably should provide reference from the Ilfracombe page too.

(4) Locomotives

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  • Just notes at present

(5) Walking the line

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  • Need better coverage of line between Barnstaple and Woolacombe

(6) References

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  • Need formatting per Wiki policy DONE




PROJECT: The Railway Stories

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The Railway Stories recordings:

  • Much new detail has been discovered but not yet incorporated. Continue monitoring eBay for source material!
  • Update text to incorporate new headings, new info and singles table
  • Pictures needed, for singles, albums and tapes
  • 'Single' info (especially) is still incomplete
  • Mention in intro: "Article does not cover audio releases of TV Series stories, see: TV merchandising"
  • Mention in intro: "Unless otherwise stated, stories are recorded in the same order as the books from which they are taken."

Revised Headings:

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  1. Johnny Morris recordings
    1. Delyse
    2. Decca
    3. Argo
  2. Willie Rushton
    1. Decca
    2. Argo
  3. Ted Robbins
    1. Reed/Tempo
    2. ELC specials
  4. Michael Angelis

Delyse Recordings Table

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  • Reformat Delysee recordings into a table:
Delysee 7" EPs
Catalogue No. Released Side 1 Side 2 Railway Series source volume
DEL101 196x Edward's Day Out Edward and Gordon Book 1 –
The Three Railway Engines
DEL102 196x The Sad Story of Henry Edward, Gordon and Henry
DEL103 1961 Thomas and Gordon Thomas's Train Book 2 –
Thomas the Tank Engine
DEL104 196x Thomas and the Trucks Thomas and the Breakdown Train
  • etc



PROJECT: Steam roller

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Steamroller Tasks

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  • New section Influence on English Language (see below)
  • Add new link to 'Allo 'Allo! (series 3) - the longer-than-usual episode "Flight of Fancy" - the Germans drive a steamroller over Herr Flicks's car! article also mentions a rally of 'steam engines' (and tractors), hence may need to mention 'On TV' in Traction engine too.
  • Investigate group Mannheim Steamroller - appears to be named after something unrelated:
    • "He called his band Mannheim Steamroller, which is the name of an 18th-Century musical technique that we know today as the crescendo." (see [1])
    • See Mannheim school, Mannheim rocket - latter refers to the 'Mannheim roller', but the addition of the word 'steam' is probably a later idea!

History of road construction techniques

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  • not obviously covered, but there are snippets here and there:

Add info:

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xx================================================================

Suggested new heading:

(Need to determine etymology of the word before adding this...
See [2] - steam-roller (noun) dates from 1866, while as a verb, dates from 1912)

Influence on English language

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A steam roller working at full speed must have been an awesome sight to the Victorians: the impression of bulk and weight as the bumpy ground submitted to this unstoppable, fiery beast. It is small wonder that the verb 'to steamroller' has entered the English language.

'Disambiguation'
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"what's the meaning of steamroller?"

THIS NEEDS RE-WRITING + SIMPLIFYING TO AVOID COPYRIGHT ISSUES
SUGGEST USING THE THESAURUS DEFS AS A BASIS FOR DICTIONARY DEFS...

With assistance from The Free Dictionary, the following definitions apply:

Noun:

  1. A steam-driven machine equipped with a heavy roller for smoothing road surfaces.
  2. A similar machine with an internal-combustion engine. (see: road roller)
  3. A ruthless or irresistible force or power.
  4. Pipe for smoking drugs (see: steamroller (pipe))

Verb:

v.tr.

  1. To smooth or level (a road) with a steamroller.
  2. To overwhelm or suppress ruthlessly; crush.

v.intr.

  1. To move or proceed with overwhelming or crushing force.


And from the Thesaurus:

Noun:

  1. steamroller - a massive inexorable force that seems to crush everything in its way
  2. steamroller - vehicle equipped with heavy wide smooth rollers for compacting roads and pavements

Verb:

  1. steamroller - bring to a specified state by overwhelming force or pressure; "The Senator steamrollered the bill to defeat"
  2. steamroller - proceed with great force; "The new teacher tends to steamroller"
  3. steamroller - crush with a steamroller as if to level; "steamroller the road"
  4. steamroller - overwhelm by using great force; "steamroller the opposition"
  5. steamroller - make level or flat with a steamroller; "steamroll the roads"


Redirects to steamroller:



PROJECT: Sam on Boffs' Island

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  • UPDATE Feb 2011 -- New reference site found (and added to article as EL) -- use this as the basis for further work!!
  • UPDATE Nov 2009 -- if you'd spelt it right, you might have found more! (It's "Boffs'" not "Boff's"!!)
  • New Page Needed See Sam on Boffs' Island
  • Programme is mentioned on Tony Robinson's page, but is not Wiki'd.
  • Very few references on the web.
  • Definitely time for Wikipedia to come to the rescue!

Reference Sources

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  • Annual, published by BBC, 1973 (obtained from eBay - only copy listed since Aug 2006!!)
  • School workbooks, pub by BBC autumn term 1972 and spring term 1973
  • Sophie!!!!!
  • "Seeing Things" -- Oliver Postgate's autobiography.
  • Internet: following links are entire Google output as of 16 Jun 06 !!!


  • Will be able to use scanned character images from source material.
    (See Garfield for images that provide suitable Wikipedia Fair use and copyright information.)
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Note that there appear to be no Wiki pages that reference BBC Schools programmes, nor Words and Pictures (NB - that link is to a 1997 album)...


PROJECT: Clayton & Shuttleworth

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Clayton & Shuttleworth was an engineering and manufacturing company based in Lincoln, England. The company became one of the largest manufacturers of portable engines and traction engines in the world.

History

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(raw copy from Shuttleworth History page)

Joseph Shuttleworth (1819-1883) was born the son of John and Rebecca Shuttleworth of Dogdyke in Lincolnshire, where he inherited a boat building business. He formed a partnership with Nathaniel Clayton, an iron foundry owner in Lincoln. Together they set up and developed a successful engineering firm, Clayton and Shuttleworth, and specialised in building steam engines and agricultural machinery.

(end raw copy)

The Shuttleworth Collection

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Main article: The Shuttleworth Collection

There is a direct family connection between the firm Clayton & Shuttleworth and The Shuttleworth Collection. [1]

Joseph Shuttleworth, co-founder of Clayton and Shuttleworth, married Sarah Grace Clayton in 1841 and they had two sons: Alfred and Frank.

Frank (later, Colonel) Shuttleworth (b.1845, d.1913) became Chairman of the family firm, and a Director of the Great Northern Railway. In 1902 he married Dorothy (b.1879, d.1968) the young daughter of the Vicar of Old Warden, the location of the Shuttleworth Estate. Their marriage was happy but short, as Frank died in 1913.

Frank's only son, Richard Ormonde Shuttleworth (b.1909, d.1940), enjoyed tinkering with cars and mechanical devices when he was a young boy. He inherited the family fortune at the age of 23, and took over the management of the Estate. Pursuing his mechanical interests, Richard gathered a sizeable collection of old cars and, later, aeroplanes too, restoring them to working order. It is these that form the nucleus of the Shuttleworth Collection at Old Warden Aerodrome, which he also constructed.

Richard joined the Royal Air Force in 1939 but, tragically, was killed on a training flight in August 1940. His mother, Dorothy, was devastated, but nevertheless opened the family mansion as a Red Cross home for convalescing airmen. After the war she placed the Estate in a charitable trust in memory of her son, and in 1963 the Shuttleworth Collection was opened to the public for the first time.

See also

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References

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Ref.[2]

Ref.[3] (This is the paperback version - the hardback was ISBN 0450 02837 2.)

  1. ^ "History of The Shuttleworth Collection". Retrieved 2007-01-31.
  2. ^ Bonnett, Harold (1975). Discovering Traction Engines. Shire Publications Ltd. ISBN 0 85263 318 1.
  3. ^ Lane, Michael R. (1976). Pride of the Road – The Pictorial Story of Traction Engines. New English Library. ISBN 0450 03277 9.
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PROJECT: Ransomes & Rapier

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History

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  • Frederick Wilfred Scott Stokes (1860-1927) – was chairman and managing director of R&R
  • Richard Stokes (1897-1957) – became managing director of R&R Ltd
  • This CANNOT be a coincidence, yet neither article mentions the other!!!!!!!!!

Products

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PROJECT: Salvage Squad

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  • Salvage Squad has now been created, but really little more than a list of the vehicle types restored.
  • Three series to cover - fortunately there are good details on the Channel 4 website Salvage Squad . Google search will also reveal good info (including a page on the Centurion tank).
  • PRJ has pic of "Margaret" at GDSF 2006
  • Picture captions to start either: 'Example:' or, if pic of actual vehicle available: 'Restored:'
  • Need to add {{Infobox television}}

Per-machine information format

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  • Orig. broadcast dates available through IMDB entries
  • For each entry (eventually a heading:
    Machine xxxx (19yy)
    Programme 'n' of 10 – first broadcast dd mmm yyyy (Restoration report [link])
    Para 1 – what restored, where, original condition
    Para 2 – history
    Para 3 – what required restoring + how
    Para 4 – conclusion and where located now



PROJECT: History of steam road vehicles

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Provides a common location for the history of road vehicle development, which was often inter-twined and not ness separate from boat devel. Include in categories:


NB - Category:Steam vehicles provides a parent article for all the other vehicle articles, such as trains, boats, tanks (!) and planes!

Source material

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Articles containing pertinent information, which should be generally rationalised into this new article - with each article highlighting specific pertinent facts only, and providing History of steam road vehicles as the 'main' article...

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PROJECT: History of the Traction Engine

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Timelines

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  • According to Case Corporation (US history):
    • 1842 -- Jerome Increase Case founded J I Case Company to make threshing machines
    • 1869 -- (Case'e) first portable steam engine
    • c1879 -- (Case'e) first self-propelled traction engine
    • c1900 -- Case was most prolific engine manufacturer in North America
    • 1927 -- Case stopped manufacturing steam engines, having produced over 30,000

PROJECT: British Engineerium

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Talk about a backlog...this was written before the article was created, and passed to GA today (EdJogg (talk))!
Still worth double-checking that these references and information have been used.

Bit difficult, seeing as I've never been there and it's currently closed.

Nevertheless, here are some useful links:

Also note the Feb 2008 Old Glory may be used as a ref for 'what happens next' (the sample article page has been stored on home PC!)

14 Sept 09
  • searched for links within WP, and all refs now (red-)linked (except the Brighton bus route page!
  • Created cat at Commons and populated it with the three photos

PROJECT: John Hazledine

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Refs to John Hazeldine (sic) patent:


PROJECT: Elsecar Heritage Centre

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MINI PROJECTS

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Traction engine

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  • Useful page: [http://www.hollowellsteam.com/glossary.htm a dictionary of terms relating to steam engines (including NHP) and the like - some VERY GOOD source material for the article...
  • Also see this 1898 ebook (part of Project Gutenberg) which notes how to calculate NHP: eBook cached
  • Much, much more (not yet listed)...

References

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[1]

  1. ^ Hayes, Geoffrey (1979). Stationary Steam Engines. Shire Publications Ltd. pp. p.17. ISBN 0 85263 652 0. {{cite book}}: |pages= has extra text (help); Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)

List of traction engine manufacturers

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  • Add details of products made?
  • ?



FUTURE WORK?

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Active Maintenance

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Edited pages that require monitoring or future updates.

The Railway Series Characters

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These have been 'fully edited' (both book and TV) - watch for vandalism!

Investigaton

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Potential Projects

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Slough to Windsor & Eton Line

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Lynton and Lynmouth Cliff Railway

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  • Some typos in existing text DONE
  • Add Operation and History headings DONE
  • Use Official web page for source info about how it works
  • Include ref to official guidebook.
  • Add 'list of funicular railways' to pages needing attention - Aberystwyth lift is only a stub, for example.


Articles Needing Attention

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Miscellaneous

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  • Crane (machine)
    • Include new section for 'Hand Crane', with pic from Commons
    • Include pics of steam/dock cranes from Bristol Industrial Museum article
    • For all types, there are LOADS of pics at Commons -- find better replacements where possible
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British (Steam) Engineering companies

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Patricularly concentrating on locomotive and traction engine manufacturers...

Pumping station articles

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Most are just stubs! Check out others in the list at Pumping station.

Canals

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Railway

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  • Tarka Trail - sort out references, and indicate actual trackbed sections used

Railway with excess US bias

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(re-write to remove US bias)

Switcher

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  • Needs re-arranging (too US-centric)
  • See Talk:Switcher for approach to take (and further ideas)
  • Also see Control car (rail) as an example of how page to be re-arranged
    (Note that the introductory paragraph of this page needs US-specific language replaced)

Road Transport

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Model Cars

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Work

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FTSS was an offshoot from Ferranti Computer Systems, and had a small site in Church Crookham near Fleet. Try this link: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Thales_Underwater_Systems 78.32.83.41 (talk · contribs)

Um, thankyou. Church Crookham was a fairly small site....I worked there for ten years! EdJogg (talk) 00:33, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


Football

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UK Places

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  • Merrow, Surrey
    • Major copy-edit completed
    • Images needed (try, 'Geograph')
    • Need coverage of the Race Course and the PoW camp (see Merrow Residents Association website)
    • More detail for St John's church
    • Data (dates?) confirmation for existing text incl old names of pub
  • Woolacombe - detail and pictures required (plus railway info?)
  • Mortehoe - minimal information at present (added by EdJogg!) plus a few pics!

Literary

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Lorenzo the Llama

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Audiobook stories by Johnny Morris

  • Add details to Johnny Morris page, including images of singles (as a gallery?)
  • Cheat and use cropped image of single to provide pic of JM!! (while we can get away with it!)
  • Create redirect Lorenzo the llama
  • Link to Meccano (publisher!) - possibly as new page 'Pied Piper'?
  • Add to Llama - section for 'in popular culture'


Asterix Audiobooks

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The six audiobooks by William Rushton.

Asterix the Gaul
Asterix the Gladiator
Asterix in Britain
Asterix and the Magic Carpet
Asterix and Cleopatra / Asterix and the Black Gold (combined volume)
  • Asterix
    • add note towards end of intro to say audiobook versions were made
  • List of Asterix volumes - add new section for audiobooks
    • General overview, based on books, adaptations by Anthea Bell
    • Table to show titles, date, code
    • Mention need to describe pictures and visual gags
      • Examples reqd, eg signposts, battle scenes, Obelix collecting helmets
      • Comparison with TV programme transferring to radio (eg Dad's Army)
      • Possible para:
Often, audiobook adaptations require the book in question to be abridged, in order to reduce the overall duration to something manageable. For the Asterix books, the opposite is true, as they must be more than just unabridged, since the spoken text must be adapted to suit the comic-book format of the original. A large proportion of the humour is carried through visual gags. These, by necessity, must be described to the listeners, along with sufficient description of the pictures to keep the story flowing.
    • Willie Rushton's characterisations 'bring book alive'
      • Asterix as cockney wideboy
      • Obelix: slow + gentle, a bit dense
      • etc
    • POV - recommended to all (British) Asterix fans!!!
  • Add new section to each indiv book title (see above)
    • include cover pic
    • 'Audio book' cat
    • link back to main article for general notes

Christian

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  • Phatfish - Wikification needed - also smartening up (too much block text!)

New Articles Needed

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Potential Major projects...?

Gumdrop (fictional car) and Val Biro

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*New pages needed

**Val Biro still not added

  • There is a good Val Biro link from his page...

Steam Traction

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  • Many independent UK steam loco manufacturers are missing





Work

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Model Cars

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Christian

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Miscellaneous

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Walking routes in North Devon

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Following on from extract at DCC Tarka Trail page:

Coincides with the South West Coast Path for part of its route, Two Moors Way for another part and the Dartmoor Way for a third; links with the West Devon Way, Two Castles Trail, Little Dart Ridge and Valley Walk and Dartmoor Way.

All of the 'red' routes mentioned deserve coverage in WP. Start here to find initial information.



Archived Wiki-help Queries

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Technical Queries

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Archived Technical Queries from Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) (WP:VPT)

Missing Edit Toolbar in IE

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Hi.
I have use of a Win2K laptop (with IE6.0) at work, and a venerable Win98SE PC (with IE 5.5) at home.
If I edit at work, I can see the edit toolbar, yet I cannot see the toolbar when editing at home.
(At home, an error is also reported on the IE status bar.)

I am sure that there is 'something missing' in my home setup, but I have not yet been able to establish what it might be.

Is there a 'minimum spec.' PC required for editing Wikipedia? Else, any clues as to what I might be able to do to fix the problem? (Unfortunately, upgrading to a newer PC is not financially viable at present.)
EdJogg 17:14, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, you might consider visiting Windows Update and upgrading to IE 6.0 at least. :)
If you can report details of the error at http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ we might be able to take a look and fix it if we can get ahold of a copy of IE 5.5, but no guarantees. --Brion 20:38, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Or try Mozilla Firefox? --Aude (talk | contribs) 20:40, 9 June 2006 (UTC)


Follow-up

  1. Buttons are visible in Firefox, even on Win98SE PC!
  2. Haven't tried IE6 upgrade yet

Error on selecting 'Save page' (Vista)

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My new Vista-based PC is set up with multiple accounts – one for each of the family, plus one admin account. On accounts where Parental Controls have been enabled, I am seeing a problem when trying to save an edited page.

When 'Save page' is pressed, the updated page is not displayed. Instead, I get an essentially blank page saying the following: 

Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage 


Most likely causes:
- You are not connected to the Internet. 
- The website is encountering problems. 
- There might be a typing error in the address.

The URL in the address bar is unchanged (it still ends 'submit'), but clicking 'Refresh' clears the error page and reloads the article page in edit mode. (This confused me for a while, until I realised that my previous edits HAD been accepted, and I had re-opened the saved page for a further edit.)

The problem is NOT caused by a page filter, as my account does not have any URL restrictions enabled. (My account has a time restriction set, to disable access at midnight in a desperate attempt to stop me editing WP late into the night :o( ). Disabling all restrictions and restarting the account cleared the problem, but re-enabling the time limit restriction brought the error back again. I never see the problem in my admin account, but see it 100% in restricted accounts.

The problem applies to both WP and 'Commons'.

  • So, any ideas?
  • Is it purely a Vista problem?
  • Were the WP tecchies aware of it?
  • Is there anything I can do to avoid the problem, short of disabling the restrictions?

EdJogg 19:45, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

The problem hasn't been reported to the bug tracker yet, as far as I can see; you can file a bug report at mediazilla:. I can't think of any solutions to this (maybe someone else at VPT can?). I suspect it's a Vista problem, or it would probably have been noticed before now. --ais523 11:59, 5 April 2007 (UTC)


Follow-up

  1. none

Strange lines in Skarloey Railway (viewed with IE7)

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Just noticed a problem in Skarloey Railway. There is a heading and a spoiler warning box sandwiched between a TOCleft box and a map image (this is not the problem!). However, in IE7 the lines from the spoiler warning and the underline for the heading stretch across the page, overwriting the TOC and the map. This does not occur in IE 5.5 and IE 6, in which I created/maintained this layout for the page.

Anyone got any ideas?

EdJogg 23:32, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

  • Weird lines in IE7 for me, none in Firefox. I have no idea why, just confirming it's a real problem. Nardman1 23:48, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

The Firefox rendering is most likely correct, but in any case I spaced out the text so there is no longer a problem. —Remember the dot (talk) 03:22, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Follow-up

  1. none

Assistance Queries

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Archived Assistance Queries from Wikipedia:Village pump (assistance) (WP:VPA)

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An external link to a specific geocache site (see geocaching) has been added to Elsbridge. My gut feeling is that the link is not appropriate, and should be deleted, especially since the article is about a fictional location! However, I have had a look at WP:EL and I'm still uncertain.

The main reason for seeking advice here is that the External Link search tool brings up nearly 100 links to www.geocaching.com, and I was wondering whether there was any kind of precedent/guidance/policy/advice for including or removing links to specific geocache locations?

If others feel that such links should be removed en masse then the appropriate Project/Task Force needs to be alerted.

EdJogg 12:30, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Follow-up

  1. No responses within 7 days -- Q reposted at: Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) (WP:VPP)
  2. See below...




Policy Queries

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Archived Assistance Queries from Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) (WP:VPP)

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An external link to a page describing a specific geocache site (see geocaching) has been added to Elsbridge. My gut feeling is that the link is not appropriate, and should be deleted, especially since the article is about a fictional location! However, I have had a look at WP:EL and I'm still uncertain.

The main reason for seeking advice here is that the External Link search tool currently brings up just over 100 links to www.geocaching.com, the most popular site, and I was wondering whether there was any kind of precedent/guidance/policy/advice for including or removing links to specific geocache locations?

The list includes a large number of user pages, and a number of links that are probably appropriate examples, neither of which are a problem. However, a significant number of instances occur on specific location pages, pointing at specific cache details, and it is these in particular that I am questioning. Should a WP location article feature a link to a geocache sited at that location?

(This query was previously posted, without attracting a response, on the VP(assistance) page.)

EdJogg 13:08, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

I have not heard of this before. It is obviously of great interest to a minority of people, but that hardly justifies the link. If it does not directly relate to the subject matter in a useful way, get rid of it.Just my opinion. Adrian M. H. 18:05, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


Follow-up

  1. The offending link on Elsbridge was removed by a different editor as 'irrelevant'.



Non-Project

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Nothing to do with a project, this text was extracted from the Culdee Fell Railway talk page before a ream of gibberish from Felix was archived.

I just wanted to keep it to hand cos it was kinda fun!


CFR Talk page rationalisation?

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Hi all project members. Apart from the one major contributor, can anyone see any particular reason why this talk page cannot be rationalised to contain just the pertinent information regarding the 'real' CFR (the section named 'Title', only, I think!)?? The rest makes pretty boring reading. If there are (admin) objections regarding preservation of archives, etc, the text could be moved to the most relevant talk page... Thoughts?

EdJogg 16:20, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

To be clear, let's remove FelixCheng's mainly irrelevant ramblings? Yes, let's. But the correct procedure is to archive the page. I suggest we archive everything up to the end of this conversation, so we start with a fresh talk page. I'm happy to do that unless there are objections. I'll also drop Felix a note asking him to refrain from posting to this page unless he has substantive comments about the article to make. Gwernol 16:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Ho-hum! I think you've hit the timber fixing on the bonce...
I've always been known as someone who calls a spade a manually-operated soil-turning implement!!
EdJogg 18:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
My personal preponderance is to eschew extrapolatory over-abundance of unnecessary verbiosity and, without circumlocution that would be described (in certain circles at least) at perhaps being less than direct - in other words, slapping or whipping around-abouts the proverbial verdant leafy shrubbery dweller -, to drive, steer or force one's way in the most from-here-to-there manner possible and/or appropriate to the very pin-sharp end-goal of the discourse's logical conclusion. I will go ahead and archive this page shortly. Gwernol 19:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
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