User:DreamRimmer/NPP-School/TNM101
Notable means "worthy of being noted" or "attracting notice." It is not synonymous with "fame" or "importance." Please consider notable and demonstrable effects on culture, society, entertainment, athletics, economies, history, literature, science, or education. Large outlets are likely to have more readily available verifiable information from reliable sources that provide evidence of notability; however, smaller ones can be notable, just as individuals can be notable, and arbitrary standards should not be used to create a bias favoring larger organizations, nor should they be used to provide blanket permissions for all articles about a certain subject.
See WP:NMEDIA - while the material is used for media notability, the message covers a much broader area for reviewers to consider, and why I made it the masthead.
Instructions: TNM101, below is a quote from the lead at Wikipedia:New pages patrol/School that I want you to consider:
If you are looking to contribute to Wikipedia but do not intend to remain active on New Page Review, then this program is probably not for you.
Users who are less experienced, but who would still like to help maintain the quality of the encyclopedia, might like to consider Patrolling Vandalism instead – an essential function that requires less knowledge of Wikipedia:Notability and Wikipedia:Deletion policy, although such knowledge is highly recommended. For training on Counter vandalism, see WP:CVUA.
If you still wish to proceed with training, your first exercise is to review the video @ Wikipedia:Page Curation/Help, and the NPP Tutorial. Become familiar with the flowcharts and curation tool as some of that information will come into play during the Q&A session. If you have any questions after you've read the tutorial and have a basic understanding of the page curation tool, please ping me from your session page.
Part of the training will involve your participation in a few live NPP reviews that I will assign. You are also expected to read and learn the relative WP policies and guidelines as presented in the 5 subsections below. You will provide a summary, in your own words, of what you've learned including what you consider to be the most important aspects of each. You will complete one section at a time, in the order presented, and ping me after you complete each part in order to, if deemed necessary, discuss your responses before proceeding to the next part. Please be mindful of the formatting.
Please make sure to answer each question in detail. I will also be observing your reactions and responses throughout the exam. Take your time; there is no need to hurry. Best of luck! – DreamRimmer (talk) 16:10, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Notability (Pt. 1)
[edit]Notability is a policy of Wikipedia through which topics of articles are checked if they are suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia. An article is considered notable when it can be checked and verified(WP:V) that its sources are reliable sources(WP:RS) and are independent of the topic(WP:IS) as well as the topic has significant mainstream coverage. Verification means that a user can check and confirm that its content comes from a reliable source. Reliable sources are those whose content is written from an independent and neutral point of view(WP:NPOV) and who have a reputation for their content. A topic also needs to have a maximum amount of secondary sources(which are not directly related to the topic) which help establish the notability of the article.
Notability is not established when the topic has only just a passing mention in the source that is mentioned. That is for example if an article about a school has only been mentioned as a good school in a reliable source, it does not warrant that it is notable. Also, articles that only cite sources that have a routine coverage of a topic, such as lifestyle magazines covering a celebrity or an athlete, do not establish notability(WP:SBST). Another important concept is that if an article does not have any sources, it does not directly mean that it is not notable. Even topics with few but high quality sources are considered notable. Notability should only be determined if the article's topic does not present any suitable sources even after searching.
The most important aspects of notability from my point of view are:
- Significant Coverage
- Reliable Secondary Sources that are independent
TNM101 (chat) 18:36, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
General Notability Guideline is the primary guideline for determining if an article is notable. It has five different points to be considered:
- Presumed: The topic of the article has been covered by reliable sources, which may or may not signify that it is notable. If it has been covered by multiple reliable sources, we can "assume" that it is notable but this does not give a full guarantee that it is notable. It may require further discussion to see if a topic requires its own article or if it can be merged into another article.
- Significant Coverage: It consists of coverage by reliable sources which is in-depth and in detail of the topic. One should take care that the mention of the topic is non-trivial in the source, which means that it is not just mentioned as a fun fact.
- Reliable: It means that the source has been acknowledged by other editors for having high editorial integrity and neutrality. Such sources help determine if a topic is notable; if there are very few or no reliable sources, the topic may not be notable.
- Sources: The sources used in an article should be secondary sources, who are not directly related to the topic of the article. An important point is that multiple documents or news articles published by the same author or news organization do not give the advantage of having multiple sources and they are considered as a single source.
- Independent: The sources must not be written or published by an author or organization who has a close affiliation to the topic of the article. This also applies to works published by the subject of the article. TNM101 (chat) 12:00, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Specific Notability Guidelines are some subject-specific guidelines that have been created for the purpose of checking if an article merits itself according to the subject of the article. Articles that may pass GNG might not be notable in their field or subject-area. SNG's provide criteria that helps distinguish between notable and non-notable articles. They also provide examples for sources that are helpful for determining notability for that topic. TNM101 (chat) 15:40, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Organizational and Company Notability and any other SNGs that relate to areas of patrol interest
- An organization is defined by the Organizations and Companies SNG that it is "a group of more than one person formed together for a purpose that can be commercial or non-commercial". The most important aspects are:
- An organization is never presumed to be notable, which is different from GNG. Organizations can demonstrate notability if they have had significant coverage from reliable sources which are unrelated to the topic. This also requires the consideration if the organization and its product(s) has had any significant impact on its field. Another important aspect is that not only large organizations can be notable; smaller ones may as well be notable. The only proof required for a small organization to be notable is that it has been significantly covered by reliable and independent sources as well.
- Sources must not include a trivial mention of the topic. Likewise, a collection of multiple trivial sources do not count towards notability.
- Another fact is that notability is not always determined by the reputation of the source. Sources with high detail but a slightly lower reputation are better and prove notability rather than low detail but high reputation sources.
- Just because the owner of a company is notable, it does not mean that the entire company is notable. Vice-versa if an organization is notable, it does not mean that its owner is notable. A company requires multiple sources to be considered notable and a single source is not sufficient enough to grant notability.
- Product reviews must be handled with care. A brief review of a toaster on a toaster-reviewing website will not grant notability. However, an in-depth and exhaustive review by an independent and reliable source has a very high chance of granting notability.
- Non-commercial organizations have a special criterion that their work must be national or international in scale.
- If a company is only notable for a single or few products it makes, the product does not require a separate article unless the product and the company have a large number of reliable secondary sources.
These are the main important aspects of this SNG. TNM101 (chat) 16:27, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Reliable sources on Wikipedia are those sources that have been published and have covered all views on a topic. These sources should have a "reputation for fact checking and accuracy". The reliability of a source is affected by three different things: 1. The content itself 2. The author 3. The publisher. If any of these is not reliable, the whole source may be considered as unreliable. Another general criteria for reliability is that the source should be confirmed to have been repeatedly fact-checked and scrutinized by the authors. Topics on different fields such as scholarship, news organizations and others have their own separate and in depth criteria for a reliable source. User generated content such as IMDb is not considered to be a reliable source. Reliable sources are preferred to be secondary, as they provide a neutral view of the subject. Breaking news topics are never reliable as they usually contain hypotheses about the nature of the event and the information in the article usually changes as the story develops. Waiting some time makes a breaking news article more reliable as the journalists clear out inaccuracies. There are many deprecated sources which should not be used without consensus. Some sources that are blacklisted cannot be used at all. The most important aspect for me is that it should be independent and highly reputed. Lastly, "multiple" sources means that one single reliable source is usually never enough to provide proof of notability. Multiple sources need to be added in order to prove its notability. TNM101 (chat) 10:56, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Relative to your work as a NPP reviewer, what initial steps would you take upon arriving at an article to be reviewed?
As an NPP Reviewer, there are a few initial steps that I will take when I take up an article for reviewing:
- Firstly, I will check if the article meets the G1, G3, G10, G11 and G14 criteria for speedy deletion as I think they are relatively easy to identify and doing this first will save a lot of time.
- Then, I will check if the user who created this article is a banned user or not(G5).
- Once I have confirmed that it does not immediately meet the above criteria, I will proceed using the NPP flowchart. After using the flowchart, I will still perform my own check using the WP:MOS and give a small copyedit if I think doing that will help it.
These are the few initial steps before fully processing an article. TNM101 (chat) 11:14, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia policy and guidelines (Pt. 2)
[edit]- Conflicts of interest (including undisclosed paid editing)
Communications (Pt. 3)
[edit]This section is relative to Wikipedia:New pages patrol#Related further reading
- Discussions with creators of new pages
- Automated notifications and when to manually notify/discuss
- Tone, clarity, and knowledge in discussions
- Wikilove/positive comments
Deletion (Pt. 4)
[edit]- WP:Soft delete (optional - already addressed above)
- Speedy Deletion (optional - already addressed above)
Reviewing Procedures (Pt. 5)
[edit]- Categorizing (optional)