User:DankJae/Wales-related names/3

Brecon Beacons National Park

• Name: Brecon Beacons National Park → Bannau Brycheiniog National Park
• Reasoning: New common name
• Policy: WP:NAMECHANGES
• Result:
• Status:  In progress

Note: the previous RM and the reverted move was done soon after the name change was announced so immediately failed assuming it was based on WP:OFFICIALNAMES rather than any chance of WP:NAMECHANGES and WP:COMMONNAME.

Technically this could just be renamed Bannau Brycheiniog, omitting "National Park". This is because 1) only the national park adopted the name, it is not automatic for the mountain range to be called such, and there are few new sources on the range to determine whether a new name is used. 2) Most readers when they would've heard "Brecon Beacons" and now "Bannau Brycheiniog" are more likely to reference the national park, so even if somewhat named after the range, the national park is more likely the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC under either name.

Snowdonia

• Name: Snowdonia → Eryri
• Reasoning: New common name
• Policy: WP:NAMECHANGES
• Result:
• Status:  In progress

Note: the previous RM and the reverted move was done soon after the name change was announced so immediately failed assuming it was based on WP:OFFICIALNAMES rather than any chance of WP:NAMECHANGES and WP:COMMONNAME.

Things to consider:

• MOS:TIES, foreign sources are not important, can focus on Welsh/UK sources.
• Use of "Eryri (Snowdonia)" whether than indicates the common name.
• Collection of individual sources, trumps Ngrams. (see Bengaluru)
• Include all mentions as there is only one Snowdonia/Eryri article.

Sources using "Eryri"

Foreign

Sources using "Snowdonia"

Foreign

Sources using "Eryri (Snowdonia)":

Other

Sources using "Snowdonia National Park":

Sources using "Eryri National Park":

Google News

• since 16 November 2022:
  • 13,000 Snowdonia vs 7,730 Eryri
  • 1,570 Snowdonia National Park vs 919 Eryri National Park.
• Trimming to since 16 November 2023:
  • 8,780 Snowdonia vs 5,290 Eryri
  • 1,050 Snowdonia National Park vs 925 Eryri National Park.

The latter is getting close so possibly a few more months for that one.

Google Scholar

• since 2023,
  • 558 Snowdonia vs 124 Eryri
  • 118 Snowdonia National Park vs 17 Eryri National Park.
• this year
  • 227 Snowdonia vs 59 Eryri
  • 39 Snowdonia National Park vs 12 Eryri National Park

Google Ngrams cannot be used as it only goes to 2022, and the change was made on 16 Nov 2022.