User:Cassiopeia/NPPSchool/Retswerb
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Make sure you read through Wikipedia:Notability as that's the knowledge which most of the questions I ask you and tasks you do will revolve around.
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Notability
[edit]PART 1
When patrolling or reviewing an article, you may often come across articles do not meet the WP:N guidelines, but the editors make the edits in good faith. Please read WP:AGF and do not WP:BITE the new editors.
- A. Notability is a test guidelines to decide whether a given topic warrants its own article in Wikipedia mainspace. Please read Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, General Notability Guidelines, Specific Notability Guidelines, Stand-alone list before completing the following tasks.
I have completed this reading. Retswerb (talk) 04:47, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
General notability guidelines
[edit]1. In your own words, why it is important to WP:AGF and not WP:BITE new editors.
Answer: Wikipedia relies on the goodwill efforts of editors who are willing to learn their way around a sometimes-complicated set of conventions and rules which can be confusing to a newcomer! Approaching fellow editors (new or experienced) with assumptions of good faith is key to building a collaborative environment where this project can continue. Taking care in how we approach new editors can be the difference between scaring someone off vs welcoming them to learn their way around and become a productive editor. Retswerb (talk) 04:47, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
. Cassiopeia talk 03:05, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
2. In your own words, how is notability defined in Wikipedia?
Answer: Notability in the context of Wikipedia refers to the standard by which topics are determined to warrant an article here. Notability can be thought of as whether or not a particular subject has already been paid attention to enough — noted enough — by appropriate outside observers. This is determined by evaluating coverage of the topic which has taken place in reliable, independent secondary sources, in a significant way. Retswerb (talk) 04:59, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
. In Wikipedia, notability means "worthy to be noted" - it is defined as a topic is "presumably" notable for stand-alone article or list if (1) it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject whee by the sources talk "directly" about the subject in depth and in length and not only passing mentioned and (2) it is not excluded under the What WP:Wikipedia is not policy. Cassiopeia talk 03:05, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
3. Does a step by step instructions on how to "Change a car tire" considered a notable topic in Wikipedia?
Answer: No, it would not be, see WP:NOTHOWTO. Retswerb (talk) 04:47, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
. Cassiopeia talk 03:05, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
4. What are the differences between A WP:GNG and a specific notability guidelines? how do we determine which one to use when patrolling an article?
Answer: WP:GNG is the blanket standard for notability across Wikipedia, establishing the criteria under which a topic is presumed to be notable. WP:SNGs, on the other hand, are specific guidelines that help to clarify notability for topics within certain subject matter. The SNGs include specifics regarding how to apply notability criteria for various subjects about which there has been community consensus regarding notability. When looking at a given article, the SNG should be consulted if there is one for the topic at hand. For example, when examining an article created for a river, WP:NGEO would be a great starting point. If no SNG exists for that subject, the GNG applies. Retswerb (talk) 07:53, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
. SNG does not supersited GNG. However, certain subjects would not meet GNG due to the fact that no article talk about them directly in length and in dept such the academics- WP:PROF - who would received few or none independence source talk about them (we would see BBC write an article about car stuck in a tree see here but not the President of Australian National University would be hard to find) Other SGN such as WP:ACADEMIC and WP:NPOL specify a very strict set of source criteria and requirements respectively. Cassiopeia talk 03:05, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Specific notability guidelines
[edit]5. If an editor creates an article about "2024 Summer Olympics" in 2019 without providing any sources, is the subject considered not notable and why?
Answer: I spent quite a while thinking on this one and I'm still not sure I'm looking at it from the right perspective. WP:NSPORT says that it exists to help evaluate whether or not a sports person or sports league/organization (amateur or professional) is likely to meet the general notability guideline
so although at first I thought it was the appropriate guideline to apply, the 2024 Summer Olympics is an event, not a person or league/organization. While WP:FUTUREEVENT has a little guidance, common sense dictates that an Olympic event 5 years away will certainly be notable and certainly already has coverage. Wikipedia may not be a WP:CRYSTALBALL but this event is notable and, as that paragraph mentions, almost certain to take place. If I saw this article I would consider it to be notable and either: a) look for sources myself that I could add or b) wait 15 minutes to see if the editor adds sources, and if not tag it as unsourced. Retswerb (talk) 07:53, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
. Good. In general, if a subject is deemed notable, and there is no sources in the article to support the content claim, we the reviewers would generally find sources and add them in as a good practice. For event such as Olympics, source would be available 8 years prior the event take place as the host country would have been chosen. Cassiopeia talk 03:05, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- B. Without considered of sources/content policies and review just based on "subject specific notability" (SSN) "alone" for sake of the exercises below, please answer if the subject meets the SSN guidelines, based on the given content below, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.
6. A New York city based 2021 start up software company , specializing in data mining, has just received a USD 200K investor fund.
Answer: Not notable. Coverage of raised capital is considered "trivial coverage" per WP:NCORP. Retswerb (talk) 05:01, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
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7. Guram Kutateladze who is a Ultimate Fighting Championships fighters with the undefeated mixed martial arts record of 12-2.
Answer: Not notable. Now 12-3 and has never been ranked in the top ten in his division (lightweight) on Fight Matrix or Sherdog, which is the WP:NMMA criteria for likely notability. Retswerb (talk) 05:01, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
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8. A upcoming action drama title "Suleiman the Great" based on the the life of Suleiman the Magnificent, was reported will be in production in December 2022 and to be released on August 2023 in the cinemas.
Answer: Not notable. Hasn't begun principal photography yet, so not yet notable per WP:NFF. Retswerb (talk) 05:01, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
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9. A political candidates, without any previous or current political position, who is running for November 2021 election for a Senator position in United States with multiple local newspapers coverage of his candidacy.
Answer: Not notable. Per WP:NPOL, being a candidate does not guarantee notability for a politician not meeting GNG. The grey area on this one to me is what exactly would be considered "significant press coverage" per that guideline. Per your description here I'm assuming the local newspaper coverage does not rise to a level that would be considered to be significant. Retswerb (talk) 05:01, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
. Cassiopeia talk 03:05, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
10. A singer who self produced his first album in May 2020 and his songs are listed in Spotify.
Answer: Not notable. Does not meet any of the criteria listed in WP:MUSICBIO. Retswerb (talk) 05:01, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
. Cassiopeia talk 03:05, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- C. Based on which SSN guidelines the below subjects are notable under (1) which notability criteriaMUSICBI#1 (if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations
Answer: Notable under WP:NPROF #8 as editor in chief of what appears to be a major, well-established journal. I see from the previous deletion discussion that he was also considered notable under NPROF #1; I didn't see this myself at first until I looked more closely at both the NPROF specific criteria notes as well as his citation count. Retswerb (talk) 07:03, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
. Cassiopeia talk 03:05, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
12. Alistair Overeem
Answer: Meets WP:NMMA as a former #2 ranked Fight Matrix heavyweight, even without the other coverage and titles he has won. Retswerb (talk) 07:03, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
. Cassiopeia talk 03:05, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
13. Jennifer Lopez
Answer: Meets WP:NACTOR based on many starring roles as well as WP:SINGER #1-5, 8, 10-12. Retswerb (talk) 07:03, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
. Cassiopeia talk 03:05, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
14. Three Mile Island accident
Answer: Meets WP:NEVENTS on all counts: WP:LASTING, WP:GEOSCOPE, and WP:COVERAGE for depth, duration, and diversity. Retswerb (talk) 02:10, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
. Cassiopeia talk 03:05, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
15. Persepolis
Answer: Meets WP:NBUILD as a feature that has officially been assigned status as cultural heritage due to its recognition as a UNESCO world heritage site. Retswerb (talk) 02:10, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
. Cassiopeia talk 03:05, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Retswerb Good day. See assignment 1 above. (1) For all the assignments, pls provide hist diffs (see Help:Diff for instructions) of the articles, reverts, edits, reports, results of the reports, talk page messages that are applicable. (2) Pls provide guidelines where applicable and justify/explain in details of your application or analysis. (3) Pls ping me if you need assistance (here in this program page at the communication section of every assignment). (4) Please book mark this page and ping me when you have finished the assignment for me to review. (5) If you need to take a break from editing Wikipedia for more than 2 weeks, pls inform me so I may know. If you Stay safe and best. Welcome to NPPS. Cassiopeia talk 08:46, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
- Ok Cassiopeia, I think I'm caught up here — let me know your thoughts and what's next! Retswerb (talk) 02:16, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
- Retswerb See comments above and let me know if you have any questions or you are ready to move on to the next assignment. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 03:05, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for the feedback Cassiopeia—I appreciate it! I'll probably be offline tomorrow and Friday but ready for whatever you've got next by the weekend. Retswerb (talk) 05:32, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Retswerb See comments above and let me know if you have any questions or you are ready to move on to the next assignment. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 03:05, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
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Sources
[edit]Background for trainees
[edit]- Wikipedia is an encyclopedia for such content claimed should be supported by independent (secondary), reliable sources for verification. Please read WP:RS, WP:IS, WP:RSP, WP:V, WP:PROVEIT, WP:Primary, WP:Secondary, and WP:Tertiary and answered the the below questions in your own words.
Reading complete. Retswerb (talk) 01:35, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
- You could contact WP:RX if you could not find the sources yourself either on web due to Paywall content or printed books.
Exercises
[edit]- 1.
Topic | Explanation | 5 Examples | Comment by Cass |
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Reliable source | A reliable source is a published (made available to the public) source which, in its appropriate context, is generally seen as trustworthy and accurate. |
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User generated sources | Sources where individuals are able to self-publish material with very little oversight on content. | ![]() | |
Non Independent source | Sources that in some way share an interest with a topic such that coverage of that topic (either positive or negative) may impact them, typically either financially or legally. |
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Type | Explanation | Sources (15 Primary ; 5 Secondary ; 5 Tertiary) | Comment by Cass |
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Primary | A source that has firsthand knowledge of the topic being covered; could be from an individual directly involved in the topic or from an eyewitness who was not involved but has firsthand information. |
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Secondary | A source that creates an account by compiling or aggregating primary sources. Usually at least one step removed and includes some degree of interpretation or synthesis. |
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Tertiary | A source that creates an account by compiling or aggregating secondary sources (possibly along with additional primary sources). |
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Subject | Primary | Secondary | Tertiary | Comment by Cass |
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Example: Art | Example:Sculpture | Example:Article critiquing the sculpture | Example:Encyclopedic article on the sculptor | |
History | Video of the Apollo 11 moon landing | A book about the Apollo program | A museum pamphlet with resources for learning more about the Apollo program | ![]() |
Science | An article in a scientific journal reporting the results of original study | A dissertation introduction summarizing the study while discussing a variety of previous research done on a topic | A bibliography on the topic | ![]() |
Athletes | A statement made by Eddy Merckx during a post-race interview | A book about the history of cycling in the 1960s and 1970s | A Wikipedia article about Merckx | ![]() |
- 4. Please explain in your own words why the content claimed needs to be verified?
Answer: Verifiability is what allows the reader to follow up on what they read here so that they can see that we are recording what reliable sources say about a given topic rather than making things up ourselves. WP is designed to be a collection of information already researched and reported by others, rather than an outlet for original research. Retswerb (talk) 04:28, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
. Verifiablility is the core Wikipedia policy. Content needs to verifiable so we may know where the info/source from for we could know if the source is independent, reliable and not because it is the facts or true - see WP:But it's true!. If source indicated XXX is from Jamaica but the fact XXX is from Cuba, we put XXX is from Jamaica in article as per source. We will correct the info when the sources (not need to be the same source) correct itself. For example Alexander the Great - How he die is based on which sources you read, from poising, to malaria and typhoid fever to infectious (meningitis) to acute pancreatitis and etc. Cassiopeia talk 02:07, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- 5.Could we used Wikipedia as the source? and why?
Answer: No. Per WP:WPNOTRS, Wikipedia articles are not a reliable source for any purpose. Retswerb (talk) 08:10, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
. Wikipedia can not be the sources as the content of Wikipedia is supported by "other sources" as Wikipedia a tertiary source that only compiles the information already published- See WP:CIRCULAR. Wikipedia is a online knowledge sharing platform. Readers should check the sources in the article and verify/read the info themselves. Cassiopeia talk 02:07, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- 6.Give an example and explain why a source is reliable but not independent of a subject?
Answer: A source can be reliable, especially for personal information, without being independent of its subject. An example of this might be a public figure whose own personal website lists their birth date. Retswerb (talk) 04:33, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
. A personal website regardless he/she is a public figure or not is considered not reliable just like in all their social media info or a company website.
- Pls answer again:
- I'm confused on this one, also related to your comments on questions 13 and 16 below. My understanding of both WP:SELFSOURCE and WP:ABOUTSELF is that a personal or organization website can be considered reliable for personal information that meets the 5 criteria given there. Are you saying that's not the case?
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Self-sources could be used in the article but it is still considered not reliable. See Reliable and WP:REPUTABLE - "Articles should be based on reliable, independent, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. Selfsources such as a person website/ a company web page/press releases/ social media and do NOT have the "fact-checking and accuracy" in place. If there is a page about me and editor place some info from my social media and who is there to check what I say in my social media (example: If I say I know five languages and I am a citizen of 3 different countries) ,has been fact-check and accuracy? and who am I to be considered reputable for my own info (the source)? This is also apply to company and org and gov (some gov produce a lot of propaganda and false info for their own gains and lie to their own citizens and to the world). Pls note that Selfsource can be used if the criteria is met but sparingly and it can NOT be used as a source/demonstrate for the notability acceptance requirements - in another words, the article needs to have significant coverage of independent, reliable sources that talk about the subject in length and in depth and not passing mentioned (the article is considered notable) and the self source is just additional info of the subject in the article. I hope I have answered your question. Cassiopeia talk 09:22, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
- Regardless, another example would be a reliable source reporting on itself. This article by NPR, reporting on their own coverage of the Beirut explosion, would be an example of this. Retswerb (talk) 05:04, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
. Cassiopeia talk 09:22, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
- Regardless, another example would be a reliable source reporting on itself. This article by NPR, reporting on their own coverage of the Beirut explosion, would be an example of this. Retswerb (talk) 05:04, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- 7.Give an example and explain why a source is independent source but not reliable?
Answer: Anyone can make a statement about almost anything; someone who has no vested interest in the topic may be independent, but may or may not be reliable. An example of this might be a tweet from someone in California who is not a meteorologist, commenting on a typhoon approaching Japan. Retswerb (talk) 04:31, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
. Cassiopeia talk 02:07, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Pls answer again: (Give another example whereby the source is not a person)
- Sure: another example of this would be an article posted on InfoWars regarding the war in Ukraine; although the publishers are independent of the conflict, they are not a reliable source, having been deprecated due to consistently posting false information. Retswerb (talk) 05:04, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
. Cassiopeia talk 09:22, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
- Sure: another example of this would be an article posted on InfoWars regarding the war in Ukraine; although the publishers are independent of the conflict, they are not a reliable source, having been deprecated due to consistently posting false information. Retswerb (talk) 05:04, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Pls answer again: (Give another example whereby the source is not a person)
- Pls indicate "y" for yes or "n" for no or "?" after "ind", "rel" and "sig" (see first example) and give a brief explanation of why you place "y" or "n".
Example Article about Bill Gates
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.linkedin.com/in/williamhgates/ | ![]() |
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✘ No |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
- 8.
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/DCIA_David_Petraeus.jpg/220px-DCIA_David_Petraeus.jpg)
David Howell Petraeus AO (/pɪˈtreɪ.əs/; born November 7, 1952) is a retired United States Army general and public official. He served as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency from September 6, 2011,[1] until his resignation on November 9, 2012[2] after his affair with Paula Broadwell was reported.[3]
Petraeus was born in Cornwall-on-Hudson, New York, the son of Sixtus Petraeus (1915–2008),[4] a sea captain from Franeker, Netherlands.[5]
In 2003, Petraeus commanded the 101st Airborne Division in the fall of Baghdad[6][7]
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/11/09/david-petraeus-cia-resign-nbc/1695271/ | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2011/09/06/petraeus-sworn-into-cia.cnn?iref=allsearch | ![]() |
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~ Coverage is significant but fails verification of claim as video appears to be undated. | ~ Partial |
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/david-petraeus-paula-broadwell_n_2118893 | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.geni.com/people/Sixtus-Petraeus/6000000015418360012 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2010/05/petraeus-exclusive-201005 | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/beyond/interviews/petraeus.html | ![]() |
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✘ No |
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/david-petraeus-general-surge-401740.html | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
References
- ^ "Petraeus sworn in as CIA director". CNN. Retrieved October 11, 2019.
- ^ Johnson, Kevin (November 9, 2012). "David Petraeus resigns from CIA". USA Today. Retrieved November 9, 2012.
- ^ "Petraeus Shocked By Girlfriend's Emails". HuffPost. 2012-11-12. Retrieved 2019-10-11.
- ^ "Sixtus Petraeus". geni.com.
- ^ "David Petraeus' Winning Streak". Vanity Fair. March 30, 2010. Retrieved October 11, 2019.
- ^ "beyond baghdad". www.pbs.org. 2004-02-12. Retrieved 2019-10-11.
- ^ "David Petraeus: General Surge". The Independent. 2007-09-08. Retrieved 2019-10-11.
- (1) www.cnn.com is considered independent, reliable source and thus it is considered WP:V.
- (2) Huffpost - Although HuffPost contributors is considered not reliable in WP:RSP but if we look closely, the piece is written by By ANNE FLAHERTY, KIMBERLY DOZIER AND ADAM GOLDMAN, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS. The Associated press is considered reliable source as they sell their news to other news agencies. However, the content is based on many individual opinions, for such it as not independent source for this particular article/piece. Cassiopeia talk 02:07, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- I'm confused on this one. The three names listed are the AP authors of the article which Huffpost has hosted, not Huffpost writers. Adam Goldman even has an article here identifying him as an AP journalist. Can you explain why this wouldn't be considered reliable? Retswerb (talk) 05:04, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- My mistake (is not independent and I have correctedit above)- AP is considered reliable source is reliable but it is not independent as it based on "opinions of the writers". Cassiopeia talk 09:22, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
- I'm confused on this one. The three names listed are the AP authors of the article which Huffpost has hosted, not Huffpost writers. Adam Goldman even has an article here identifying him as an AP journalist. Can you explain why this wouldn't be considered reliable? Retswerb (talk) 05:04, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- 9. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.
Answer: Notable. Meets WP:GNG and easily passes WP:BIO via WP:ANYBIO as well as possibly WP:NPOL although I'm not 100% sure that his role as director of CIA makes him a politician per se.
. (3) Being a CIA director and a United States Army generalin is not really a politician per se. There was a Military SNG but it was removed so If a person who serves in the military and also has held a political position as Leonidas I, Julius Caesar, Ulysses S. Grant, Napoleon Bonaparte or Dwight D. Eisenhower then they would pass WP:NPOL. Cassiopeia talk 02:07, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- 10.
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/86/Hingis_RG16_%2810%29_%2827331857371%29.jpg/220px-Hingis_RG16_%2810%29_%2827331857371%29.jpg)
Martina Hingis is a Swiss former professional tennis player.[1] She won five Grand Slam singles titles.[2] Hingis was one of the highest-paid female athletes in 2000.[3] She retired in November 2007 after being hampered by a hip injury for several months and testing positive for a metabolite of cocaine during that year's Wimbledon Championships,[4] which led to a two-year suspension from the sport.[5]
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.instagram.com/martinahingis80/ | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.latimes.com/sports/more/la-sp-us-open-hingis-20170910-story.html | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/21171438/tennis-another-twist-bizarre-career-martina-hingis | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2007/nov/01/tennis | ![]() |
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~ Coverage is significant but does not support claim. | ~ Partial |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
References
- ^ "Martina Hingis (@martinahingis80) • Instagram photos and videos". www.instagram.com. Retrieved 2019-10-11.
- ^ "Martina Hingis wins her 25th Grand Slam championship, the women's doubles crown at the U.S. Open". Los Angeles Times. 2017-09-11. Retrieved 2019-10-11.
- ^ a b Paul Fein (30 January 2003). Tennis Confidential: Today's Greatest Players, Matches, and Controversies. Potomac Books, Inc. pp. 197–. ISBN 978-1-57488-526-2.
- ^ "Done again? Why Martina Hingis decided to retire for a third time". ESPN.com. 2017-10-26. Retrieved 2019-10-11.
- ^ Staff; agencies (2007-11-01). "Tennis: Martina Hingis retires amid cocaine controversy". The Guardian. ISSN 0261-3077. Retrieved 2019-10-11.
- 11. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.
Answer:Notable. Hingis overwhelmingly satisfies WP:NTENNIS, meeting almost every possible criteria. Many, many things written about her over the years to satisfy WP:GNG. Retswerb (talk) 05:15, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
. Cassiopeia talk 02:07, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Pls indicate "y" for yes or "n" or "?" for no after "ind", "rel" and "sig" (see first example) and give a brief explanation of why you place "y" or "n".
- 12.
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Wrightfallingwater.jpg/220px-Wrightfallingwater.jpg)
Frank Lloyd Wright (June 8, 1867 – April 9, 1959) was an American architect, interior designer, writer, and educator. Wright believed in designing structures that were in harmony with humanity and its environment, a philosophy he called organic architecture. His creative period spanned more than 70 years. He works includes The Guggenheim, swirling, snail-shaped museum in the middle of Manhattan.[1][2] Fallingwater, which has been called "the best all-time work of American architecture."[3] This is one of Wright's most famous private residences (completed 1937), was built for Mr. and Mrs. Edgar J. Kaufmann, Sr., at Mill Run, Pennsylvania. Constructed over a 30-foot waterfall, it was designed according to Wright's desire to place the occupants close to the natural surroundings. The house was intended to be more of a family getaway, rather than a live-in home.[4]
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://nypost.com/2017/06/07/frank-lloyd-wright-was-a-house-builder-and-homewrecker/ | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://franklloydwright.org/work/ | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://web.archive.org/web/20080302053743/http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/jul2004/nf20040728_3153_db078.htm | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://books.google.com/books?id=KSA1HTTU-eMC | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
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References
- ^ Hoffman, Barbara (2017-06-07). "Famed architect Frank Lloyd Wright had a dark side". New York Post. Retrieved 2019-10-04.
- ^ "Frank Lloyd Wright's Work". Frank Lloyd Wright Foundation. Retrieved 2019-10-04.
- ^ "BW Online | July 28, 2004 | Frank Lloyd Wright: America's Architect". 2008-03-02. Archived from the original on 2008-03-02. Retrieved 2019-10-04.
- ^ Robert C. Twombly (24 April 1987). Frank Lloyd Wright: His Life and His Architecture. John Wiley & Sons. ISBN 978-0-471-85797-6.
- 13. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.
- https://franklloydwright.org/work/ - certain self source can be used but it does not mean it it reliable source. Cassiopeia talk 02:07, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
Answer: Notable. Wright easily meets all four criteria of WP:ARCHITECT and has thousands of things written about him to satisfy WP:GNG. Retswerb (talk) 03:42, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
. Cassiopeia talk 02:07, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- 14.
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Phoenix_King.jpg/220px-Phoenix_King.jpg)
Jordan Lennon (born February 22, 2000), is a British film producer and actor. [1] Lennon is currently a member of BAFTA.[2] He continues to work aside 20th Century Fox, Warner Bros, Wicked Wales, Capture Studios, Cineworld, Paramount Pictures, and Rockefeller Foundation.[3]
At age 16, the Vice President of 20th Century Fox, Paul Higginson. Who previously worked on Star Wars, Titanic, and Independence Day took on Jordan and Rowan Snow as a mentor.[4] In December 2018, Jordan and Rowan finished British Film Academy.[5] Jordan lived in Skelmersdale for 10 years before moving to Rhyl, North Wales. He's currently writing 'Stranger in the Night' scrreenplay for Warner Brothers.
Source assessment table:
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https://www.imdb.com/name/nm8902348/ | ? Since IMDB is user-generated there is no way to know whether or not the information comes from independent sources. | ![]() |
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✘ No |
http://www.bafta.org/wales | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-d-98111a125 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/Jordan-David/ | ![]() |
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✘ No |
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References
- ^ "Jordan D. Lennon". IMDb. Retrieved 2019-01-21.
- ^ "BAFTA Cymru". www.bafta.org. 2014-06-16. Retrieved 2019-01-21.
- ^ Lennon, Jordan. "LinkedIn Account". LinkedIn.
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(help) - ^ "Jordan David - 2 Character Images". Behind The Voice Actors. Retrieved 2019-10-04.
- ^ "BFI Film Academy". Tape Community Music & Film. 2016-08-24. Retrieved 2019-01-21.
- 15. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.
Answer: Not notable based on anything presented here. Fails every criteria of both WP:NACTOR and WP:FILMMAKER. Retswerb (talk) 03:42, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
. Cassiopeia talk 02:07, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- 16.
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/Sonny_Bill_Williams_2010.jpg/220px-Sonny_Bill_Williams_2010.jpg)
Sonny William Williams (born 3 August 1985), who is a Muslim[1], is a New Zealand All blacks rugby union footballer,[2] Williams was a Marist Saints junior when he was spotted playing in Auckland by Bulldogs talent scout John Ackland.[3] In 2002 he was offered a contract and moved to Sydney (as the youngest player to ever sign with an NRL club) to play in the Bulldogs' junior grades.[4]
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7505117/2019-Rugby-World-Cup-Sonny-Bill-Williams-expecting-fourth-child.html | ![]() |
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✘ No |
http://stats.allblacks.com/asp/Profile.asp?ABID=1108 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/warriors-league-team/news/article.cfm?c_id=360&objectid=10399308 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/10/01/1096527943523.html | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
References
- ^ "2019 Rugby World Cup: Sonny Bill Williams is expecting a fourth child". Mail Online. 2019-09-25. Retrieved 2019-10-04.
- ^ "Stats | allblacks.com". stats.allblacks.com. Retrieved 2019-10-04.
- ^ Rattue, Chris (2 September 2006). "Jerome Ropati – Miracle in the making". New Zealand Herald. APN Holdings. Retrieved 10 October 2010.
- ^ "The King, Sonny and heir". Sydney Morning Herald. Fairfax. 2 October 2004. Retrieved 12 November 2011.
- http://stats.allblacks.com - certain self source can be used but it does not mean it it reliable source. Cassiopeia talk 02:07, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- 17. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.
Answer: Notable, although not necessarily based on claims or references here. A quick search of his name on the NZ Herald and Sydney Morning Herald sites reveals extensive coverage of him over a period of many years so WP:GNG would be met. Meets (at least) criteria 3 of WP:RLN and criteria 1 of WP:NRU. Retswerb (talk) 05:19, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
. Sonny Bill Williams (full content), the subject would also meet WP:NRU criteria 1, 2. Cassiopeia talk 02:07, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- 18.
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Bryan_Adams_Guadalajara_2006_dsc02642.jpg/220px-Bryan_Adams_Guadalajara_2006_dsc02642.jpg)
"Can't Stop This Thing We Started" is a song by Canadian singer and songwriter Bryan Adams. The song was written by Adams and Robert John "Mutt" Lange, and was the second single from Adams' 1991 album Waking Up the Neighbours where by the song was nominated for Grammy Award 1992 "Song of the Year"[1]
Weekly charts
Chart (1991-1992) | Peak position |
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US Mainstream Rock (Billboard)[2] | 2 |
Denmark (IFPI)[3] | 2 |
US Billboard Hot 100[4] | 2 |
End-of-year charts
End-of-year chart (1991) | Position |
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Canada Top Singles (RPM)[5] | 3 |
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.nytimes.com/1992/01/09/arts/grammy-short-list-many-for-a-few.html | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.billboard.com/music/Bryan-Adams/chart-history/RTT | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.billboard.com/music/Bryan-Adams/chart-history/HSI | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/films-videos-sound-recordings/rpm/Pages/image.aspx?Image=nlc008388.2024&URLjpg=http%3a%2f%2fwww.collectionscanada.gc.ca%2fobj%2f028020%2ff4%2fnlc008388.2024.gif&Ecopy=nlc008388.2024 | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.musicvf.com/song.php?title=Can%27t+Stop+This+Thing+We+Started+by+Bryan+Adams&id=7272 | ![]() |
? Reliability unclear. Does not appear to have been discussed at WP:RSN and is not listed at WP:CHART yet is used frequently in citations (am I missing something?). Not much information available on the site itself to determine reliability. | ![]() |
? Unknown |
https://musicchartsarchive.com/singles/bryan-adams/cant-stop-this-thing-we-started | ![]() |
? As above, reliability unclear. Not listed at WP:RSN or WP:CHART. | ![]() |
? Unknown |
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References
- ^ Pareles, Jon (1992-01-09). "Grammy Short List: Many For a Few". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2019-12-28.
- ^ "Bryan Adams Chart History (Mainstream Rock)". Billboard.
- ^ "Top 10 Denmark" (PDF). Music & Media. Retrieved March 21, 2018.[permanent dead link]
- ^ "Bryan Adams Chart History (Hot 100)". Billboard.
- ^ "RPM 100 Hit Tracks of 1991". RPM. Retrieved November 23, 2017.
- 19. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.
Answer: Meets criteria 1 of WP:NSONG so may be notable, but very little appears to have been written about the song in a way that would satisfy WP:GNG. Might be best as a mention in Waking Up the Neighbours rather than as a standalone article. Retswerb (talk) 06:29, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
certain subject such as song, even it is trivial mention and appear only on the major music chart, it will considered IRS and make the subject notable as long they are ranked on the top of the chart and such article will survive in the AfD (Article for deletion) (later assignment). Cassiopeia talk 02:07, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- 20.
Kamlesh Bhatt is a Solution Architect and a DevOps Engineer living in Singapore. I am a fan of technology, music, and entrepreneurship. He is interested in photography and travel. He could be reached at his blog and youtube channel.[1][2]
Source assessment table:
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https://medium.com/@kamleshbhatt_ | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kamlesh-bhatt-45392961/ | ![]() |
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✘ No |
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References
- ^ "Kamlesh Bhatt". Medium. Retrieved 2019-12-28.
- ^ Bhatt, Kamlesh (December 27, 2019). "Kamlesh Bhatt". Linkedin. Retrieved December 27, 2019.
- 21. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.
Answer:Not notable. Fails every criteria of WP:BIO. Retswerb (talk) 06:57, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
. Cassiopeia talk 02:07, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Retswerb, pls see assignment 2 above. Cassiopeia talk 23:21, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Apologies for the slow down on my part; have had various interruptions to my normal wikipedia time. Will be continuing here but possibly at a reduced pace for the next week or two. Retswerb (talk) 08:11, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- Well Cassiopeia I'm done with this section at last. Still have a lot going on outside of WP at the moment so ongoing process will not be fast, but I would like to continue if you don't mind a somewhat slow pace. Ready for review, feedback, and next steps. Retswerb (talk) 07:06, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
- Retswerb, OK, I will have a look at the assignment for the next few days. It is ok that you need a little time/slower pace for I understand most editors are busy outside editing Wikipedia. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 08:09, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- Retswerb, See comments above and pls answer again for Q6 and Q7. Ping when you have answered them. Cassiopeia talk 02:07, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Cassiopeia, thanks for your review and comments. I've re-answered Q6 and Q7 and posted a couple of questions (on Q6 and Q8) for clarification. Thanks too for your willingness to work with my slower pace! Retswerb (talk) 05:04, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Retswerb, See comments above and I will post the next assignment for you. Cassiopeia talk 09:22, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
- Cassiopeia, thanks for your review and comments. I've re-answered Q6 and Q7 and posted a couple of questions (on Q6 and Q8) for clarification. Thanks too for your willingness to work with my slower pace! Retswerb (talk) 05:04, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Retswerb, See comments above and pls answer again for Q6 and Q7. Ping when you have answered them. Cassiopeia talk 02:07, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Apologies for the slow down on my part; have had various interruptions to my normal wikipedia time. Will be continuing here but possibly at a reduced pace for the next week or two. Retswerb (talk) 08:11, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Content Policy
[edit]Article titles
[edit]- Please read WP:TITLE and answer the questions below
Reading complete. Retswerb (talk) 22:40, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
- 1. Article name "Hannibal Barca" - Does the article name need to be change? and Why? (please explain based on Wikipedia guidelines and name/link the guidelines in your answer)
Hannibal Barca was a Carthaginian general and statesman who is widely considered one of the greatest military commanders in history. His father, Hamilcar Barca, was a leading Carthaginian commander during the First Punic War (264–241 BC).[1][2][3]
References
- ^ Eve MacDonald (24 February 2015). Hannibal: A Hellenistic Life. Yale University Press. pp. 48–. ISBN 978-0-300-21015-6.
- ^ John Whitaker; Hannibal (1794). The course of Hannibal over the Alps ascertained. John Stockdale, Piccadilly. pp. 1–.
- ^ Patrick N Hunt (11 July 2017). Hannibal. Simon & Schuster. pp. 214–. ISBN 978-1-4391-0977-9.
Answer: Yes, the article name should be changed to Hannibal per WP:COMMONNAME. He is broadly referred to by this name across the majority of sources. Retswerb (talk) 22:40, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
- 2. Article name "Magic Johnson". Does the article name need to be change? and Why?(please explain based on Wikipedia guidelines and name/link the guidelines in your answer)
Earvin "Magic" Johnson Jr. (born August 14, 1959) is an American retired professional basketball player and former president of basketball operations of the Los Angeles Lakers of the National Basketball Association (NBA). He played point guard for the Lakers for 13 seasons.[1][2][3][4]
References
- ^ Roselius, J. Chris. (2011). Magic Johnson : basketball star & entrepreneur. Edina, Minn.: ABDO Pub. Co. ISBN 9781617147562. OCLC 663953248.
- ^ "Magic Johnson | Biography & Facts". Encyclopedia Britannica. Retrieved 2019-10-23.
- ^ Stein, Marc; Deb, Sopan (2019-04-11). "Magic Johnson Always Set His Sights Beyond Basketball". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2019-10-23.
- ^ "Magic Johnson: Michael Jordan said Stephen Curry not Hall of Famer in fear of tampering fine". sports.yahoo.com. Retrieved 2019-10-23.
Answer:
No, the article name should not be changed. Again, per WP:COMMONNAME this is how he is most commonly referred to. Retswerb (talk) 22:40, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
Biographies of living persons
[edit]- Please read WP:BLP and answer the questions below.
- 3. As per the texts below, pls explain the if the content is acceptable of inclusive and why. (please explain based on Wikipedia guidelines and name/link the guidelines in your answer)
Conor Anthony McGregor (born 14 July 1988) is an Irish professional mixed martial artist and boxer. His is a former Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) featherweight and lightweight champion.[1]
On 15 August 2019, TMZ Sports published a video that appeared to show McGregor punching a man at The Marble Arch Pub in Dublin.[2] The incident happened on 6 April and was originally reported by Irish media, although without the video that showed the attack. Irish police stated in April that they had opened an investigation.[3] McGregor was charged with assault and first appeared in court on 11 October 2019.[4][5][6]
In April 2019, McGregor is the father of Terri Murray's son, Clodagh. Murray bedded McGregor in 2017 at his hotel after the Aintree Grand National just four weeks bofore McGregor's girlfriend Dee Devlin gave birth to their son.
References
- ^ "The most surprising stories behind Conor McGregor's incredible success". IrishCentral. 13 December 2016. Retrieved 3 September 2017.
- ^ "Video of Conor McGregor Punching Old Man in Head in Whiskey Dispute". TMZ. Retrieved 2019-08-22.
- ^ Gaydos, Ryan (2019-08-15). "Conor McGregor seen on video punching bar patron in face over whiskey". Fox News. Retrieved 2019-08-22.
- ^ "Conor McGregor charged with pub assault, to appear in Dublin court next week". RT International. Retrieved 2019-10-23.
- ^ "UFC: McGregor charged with assault for punching elderly man". South China Morning Post. 2019-10-05. Retrieved 2019-10-23.
- ^ "McGregor appears in court in assault case". ESPN.com. 2019-10-11. Retrieved 2019-10-23.
Answer:
- 4. As per the texts below, pls explain the if the content is acceptable of inclusive and why. (please explain based on Wikipedia guidelines and name/link the guidelines in your answer)
Diana Nyad (née Sneed; born August 22, 1949) is an American author, journalist, motivational speaker, and long-distance swimmer who lives in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW in Washington, D.C. and could be contacted at +0-202-456-6213.[1] Nyad gained national attention in 1975 when she swam around Manhattan (28 mi or 45 km) and in 1979 when she swam from North Bimini, The Bahamas, to Juno Beach, Florida (102 mi (164 km)). In 2013, on her fifth attempt and at age 64, she became the first person confirmed to swim from Cuba to Florida without the aid of a shark cage, swimming from Havana to Key West (110 mi or 180 km).[2]
References
- ^ Anne-Marie Garcia (September 2, 2013). "Diana Nyad completes Cuba-Florida swim". USA Today.
- ^ Alvarez, Lizette (September 2, 2013). "Nyad Completes Cuba-to-Florida Swim". The New York Times.
Answer:
Images copyright
[edit]- Please read Wikipedia:Image use policy and Wikipedia:Public domain image resources. Please answer the questions below and (1) with explanation based on Wikipedia guidelines and (2) provide the guidelines/links in your answer.
- 5. Could this image-1 be uploaded into C:Main Page and used in Wikipedia? and Why.
Answer- Explanation:
Answer - link/guideline:
- 6. Could this image-2 be uploaded into C:Main Page and used in Wikipedia? and Why.
Answer- Explanation:
Answer - link/guideline:
- 7. Could this image-3 be uploaded into C:Main Page and used in Wikipedia?
Answer- Explanation:
Answer - link/guideline:
- 8. Could this image-4 be uploaded into C:Main Page and used in Wikipedia? and Why.
Answer- Explanation:
Answer - link/guideline:
Neutral point of view
[edit]P;lease read WP:NPOV and MOS:PUFF. Point out the WP:NPOV words/pharses and rewrite the paragraph on Question 9& 10 from a neutral point of view.
- 9. She is a brilliant boxer with a rare and exceptional beauty. She turned Pro at the age of 19 after winning one amateur fight on December 14, 2013 where she destroyed her opponent in 20 seconds. Her talent and marketability made her a fighter to watch right out the gate and she fought under XXX promotion on her next fight on February 2014.
Answer:
- 10. He is a popular, acclaimed Bulgarian actor, who loves by all who have watched his films. He was born in Veliko Tarnovo and started working in the film industry since he was at the tender, innocent of the age of 14 and he has featured in 44 films.
Answer:
- 11. Please read WP:DUE and in your own words, please explain why it is important to provide balance and due weight content in an article.
Answer:
No original research
[edit]- 12. In your own words, why Wikipedia is not a platform to publish original research?
Answer:
- 13. In your own words, please provide one example with explanation when it is appropriate to insert an original research or an opinion in an article.
Answer:
- 14. See this video and write the content in the in an article by using the video info as the source.
Answer:
Verifiability
[edit]- Please read WP:V and answer the questions below
- 15. If the subject has two sons and it is supported by three independent, reliable sources but in reality he has 3 sons. Could we change the content from "2" sons to "3 sons"? and why?
Answer:
- Retswerb See assignment 3 above. Cassiopeia talk 09:24, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
- Cassiopeia As I'm sure you have long since noticed, I ceased being a regular WP editor about this time last year. I have had quite a few personal things keeping me away but am going to try to come back to regular editing again. At this time I'm not ready to continue with NPP School but would be interested in it again if I am able to return to regularity here, if you would be willing to continue at that time. My apologies for my absence without communication. Retswerb (talk) 04:57, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Retswerb Good to hear from you and thank you for the update. You can always come back to continue the program as there is no time limit for the completion. You can always tackle one assignment question at a time when you are free. Which ever way you prefer, it is all welcome. Ping me when and let me know when when you are free to continue as I am always here and here to help. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 05:08, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Cassiopeia As I'm sure you have long since noticed, I ceased being a regular WP editor about this time last year. I have had quite a few personal things keeping me away but am going to try to come back to regular editing again. At this time I'm not ready to continue with NPP School but would be interested in it again if I am able to return to regularity here, if you would be willing to continue at that time. My apologies for my absence without communication. Retswerb (talk) 04:57, 24 September 2023 (UTC)