Template talk:Ordinaries of the Diocese of Hong Kong

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The problem...

The problem with naming this template "Ordinaries..." is that auxiliary bishops, and bishops who served as priests here, are not ordinaries of the diocese, strictly speaking, so they would be omitted. If we name it "Bishops of the Diocese" then we naturally omit the priests that came before elevation to diocesan status. Can't win, huh? I would support a rename back to the original name and just abuse it to add priests who weren't bishops, being the more accurate description. Elizium23 (talk) 08:27, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the term "Ordinaries" is more specific than "Bishops". Bishops would indeed encompass coadjutors, auxiliaries (current and former), as well as priests who served previously. On the other hand, there can only be one Ordinary of a diocese. But that term is used to encompass all heads of what is now the Diocese of Hong Kong before it became a diocese (i.e. they bishops of titular sees, but not of Hong Kong). —Bloom6132 (talk) 11:24, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not to mention, all other major archdiocese templates (e.g. Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, etc.) use the term "Ordinaries". Again, this is not done to encompass auxiliaries and priests who became bishops elsewhere, but to encompass those who were not an archbishop but still the head of what is now the archdiocese. —Bloom6132 (talk) 11:30, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Template:Roman Catholic Bishops of of Hong Kong" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Template:Roman Catholic Bishops of of Hong Kong. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 February 24#Template:Roman Catholic Bishops of of Hong Kong until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Regards, SONIC⁶⁷⁸ 01:29, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]