Template talk:Nuclide/Archive 1
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Ununbium
Ununbium has not yet been replaced by copernicium.--Mikespedia is on Wikipedia! 15:00, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
- This seems to have been taken care of by replacing one with the other - I am affraid that any pages that were using the old name will now have errors.. I'll investigate. — SkyLined (talk) 18:56, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
- There were two pages, one a talk page, the other my list of nuclei, that were affected - nothing serious. The transition to the new name should now be complete and no more pages should have errors. — SkyLined (talk) 20:03, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
I can't read the &%$#ing things
In my reader, the "12" for carbon-12 only shows for the template {{SimpleNuclide2}}, but for none of the other three templates shown (where only the "6" shows, and the "12" is missing). I only noticed because somebody used these new templates in the isotope article, and I can't see them at all. Surely I'm not the only person that WP is becomming more and more unreadable for, due to these fancy transcluded templates? What happened to using the other perfectly good functions to show this stuff, for example: 12C ? SBHarris 04:37, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
- Re problem with templates: Unfortunately your fix of Isotope by changing Nuclide2 to Simplenuclide2 is not satisfactory, because (at least with Internet Explorer) Simplenuclide2 does not show the atomic number subscripts. True, the atomic number information is redundant for anyone who can find the element symbol on a periodic table, but the subscripts certainly should be given at the end of the third paragraph where the preceding sentence explains what the subscripts mean.
- Nuclide2 on the other hand does show both superscript and subscript on my screen, which is quite mysterious since I don't see the atomic number in the source code for either the Isotope article or the Nuclide2 template. Is there hidden source code which tells the system that carbon is element 6?
- And it is possible that the problem is browser-dependent. A few weeks ago with Internet Explorer I saw the Nuclide2 symbols with superscripts and subscripts piled on top of the element symbol (e.g. 12 on top of 6 on top of C !), but on Mozilla Firefox the symbols were normal. At the time I was preparing to describe this phenomenon on a talk page, but it was mysteriously fixed after a few days.
- I think all this needs to be fixed by someone who understands the hidden source code. Or else as SBHarris says, we can just go back to <sub> and <super>. Dirac66 (talk) 19:52, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, please. For the record, I'm using IE also, but an older version, and it fixed the problem for me, but not you. So it's all screwed up. Since <sub, <sup, and <small work for everybody, why can't the people who write the templates employ them as subcode, so they can be sure this is going to work on everybody's browsers. This whole thing tmplate thing for superscripts is just wanking, as it converts code perfectly readable for anyone, into stuff that is now not accessable for large fractions of readers. And to save what amount of editing time cost? Almost nothing in this case. SBHarris 20:13, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
- To be fair there is one defect with sub and super which may have incited whoever developed the templates. For isotope notation you cannot place the superscript directly over the subscript, so you have to write 146C (or else 614C which is worse I think). The template appears to put the 14 directly over the 6 as in textbooks, which is an advantage IF it can be made readable by everyone. If not then I agree with you that we should revert to sub and super, though it may take a little time to convince everyone that there is a problem. Dirac66 (talk) 01:01, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Overlaps in PDF render
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The PDF created by Wikipedia's "Download as PDF" function on article MOX fuel contains bad rendering of the paragraphs containing subscripts and superscripts, which are produced with template {{Nuclide2}}. The Printable version function produces a correct rendering. I could not find another article that also uses {{Nuclide2}} directly, but articles that use the wrapper {{Nuclide}} do not have this problem. I am also posting a note at Help:Books/Feedback#Template Nuclide2 may cause overlaps in PDF. -84user (talk) 17:31, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
symbol by atomic number
It might have been nice if these templates allowed selecting the element by atomic number. That is: {{nuclide2|92}}
to work like: {{nuclide2|U}}
. It is just a little more convenient when making tables, especially machine generated tables. Otherwise, thanks to whoever made this template. <sub> and <sup> don't do so well. Gah4 (talk) 16:51, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
55
25Mn
doesn't work.
It seems that there is an error in the table, such that {{nuclide2|Mn}}
doesn't work.
For testing purposes: 1
1H
4
2He
7
3Li
9
4Be
11
5B
12
6C
14
7N
16
8O
19
9F
20
10Ne
23
11Na
24
12Mg
27
13Al
28
14Si
31
15P
33
16S
35
17Cl
40
18Ar
39
19K
40
20Ca
45
21Sc
48
22Ti
51
23V
52
24Cr
55
25Mn
56
26Fe
59
27Co
58
28Ni
63
29Cu
64
30Zn
69
31Ga
74
32Ge
75
33As
80
34Se
79
35Br
84
36Kr
85
37Rb
88
38Sr
89
39Y
90
40Zr
93
41Nb
98
42Mo
99
43Tc
102
44Ru
103
45Rh
106
46Pd
107
47Ag
114
48Cd
115
49In
118
50Sn
121
51Sb
130
52Te
127
53I
132
54Xe
133
55Cs
138
56Ba
139
57La
140
58Ce
141
59Pr
142
60Nd
145
61Pm
152
62Sm
153
63Eu
158
64Gd
159
65Tb
164
66Dy
165
67Ho
166
68Er
169
69Tm
174
70Yb
175
71Lu
178
72Hf
181
73Ta
184
74W
187
75Re
192
76Os
193
77Ir
195
78Pt
197
79Au
202
80Hg
205
81Tl
208
82Pb
209
83Bi
210
84Po
210
85At
222
86Rn
223
87Fr
226
88Ra
227
89Ac
232
90Th
231
91Pa
238
92U
237
93Np
244
94Pu
243
95Am
247
96Cm
247
97Bk
251
98Cf
252
99Es
257
100Fm
258
101Md
259
102No
262
103Lr
261
104Rf
262
105Db
266
106Sg
264
107Bh
277
108Hs
268
109Mt
281
110Ds
272
111Rg
285
112Cn
The element Uut does not exist. 289
114Fl
The element Uup does not exist. 292
116Lv
The element Uus does not exist. The element Uuo does not exist. Gah4 (talk) 17:17, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- OK, after fixing both {{ProtonsForElement}} and {{NeutronsForElement}} it now works. Seems that I am the first ever to try
{{nuclide2|Mn}}
. By the way, template errors in section headings give funny results. Gah4 (talk) 17:57, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
{{tfm}} ruins tables!
Putting the {{tfm}} tag on this ruins a lot of tables that use this tag. I suppose I agree that it could be put on {{nuclide}} to get those changed over (however long that takes), but ruining all the tables using {{nuclide2}} for now, doesn't seem necessary. Gah4 (talk) 00:16, 19 November 2016 (UTC)