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Using template wrapper

This template currently calls Template:Infobox person manually. For every parameter that is desired, an editor needs to:

• Write a line of code that looks like |image={{{image|}}}
• Add a entry in the parameter list to Module:Check for unknown parameters

I propose that we can enable all parameters currently Template:Infobox person for this while simplifying the code for the template, by using Module:Template wrapper (currently in the sandbox). This proposed change does not alter existing infoboxes: the appearance, warning messages, and error tracking categories remain the same. It just enables any parameter in Template:Infobox person to be used, with correct error checking. Further, if a parameter gets added to Template:Infobox person in the future, it will be inherited by Template:Infobox scientist without more editor intervention. The information box at the top of Template:Infobox scientist/doc will be updated to tell editors that any Infobox person parameter works.

What do editors think of this proposal? — hike395 (talk) 10:33, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

 Implemented --- no objections after 7 days. — hike395 (talk) 10:58, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Request to add a "Notable works" parameter

I request that a Notable works parameter be added to separate a subject's publications from being parsed into the "Known For" parameter. GuardianH (talk) 16:06, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Add Google Scholar Entry

I suggest adding an entry that would look a bit like (for Einstein)

Google Scholar H-factor 125

where the "H-factor" would be automatically updated from Google Scholar. (I am not sure how to do that in whatever markup is used within WP, but it should be possible.) Ldm1954 (talk) 11:09, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

As far as I know, there is no way to automatically scrape an external website from en WP (or the other language WPs). From what I've seen, someone needs to set up a scraping/importation script into Wikidata, then it can be gotten from there. Unfortunately, h-index is a dynamic quantity, so it's probably not appropriate for infrequent importation. (There are also well-known issues with h-index, which makes it somewhat problematic to enshrine into an infobox).

However, a link to a scientist's Google Scholar page seems like it could be very useful. What do other editors think? — hike395 (talk) 17:30, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

For reference there is a 2016 page on stack exchange here. You would just cron it weekly. Concerning issues, I am not excited by the paper you mention. There are others, but it is way better than nothing. Ldm1954 (talk) 18:06, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

There is no way to run a cron job within Wikipedia. I'm certainly not going to import anything into Wikidata myself: you are certainly welcome to ask for a bot if we get consensus.

Given Wikipedia's influence, I would claim that doing nothing is better than including a controversial metric in a prominent infobox. — hike395 (talk) 22:10, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

I have not yet formed an opinion, but Google Scholar is already included (although almost hidden) in the template {{Authority control}} that is placed at the bottom of the page. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 18:22, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Good point! The question is: would readers find a list of a scientist's papers useful enough to link in the infobox? — hike395 (talk) 22:10, 14 October 2023 (UTC)