Template talk:Infobox film awards

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because it was created as a demonstration for a potential merger (see Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 January 27) --Frietjes (talk) 17:54, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

best_drama serial (sic)

I have removed |best_drama serial= again. first, |best_drama_series= is not the same as |best_drama serial=. second, the rationale was "merged from Logie (television) award", but Logie Awards of 2013 has no drama serial category. third, there is already a |free_award= and |free_award_type= for single use parameters. fourth, if it is to be used in 1st Hum Awards, then again it is not needed, since there is no 'top' award, and the fact that Shehr-e-Zaat won three awards is already covered in the infobox. Frietjes (talk) 19:58, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

In the UK, at least, for TV and combined TV and film awards, best drama (whether series or serial) is a key award. |free_award= parameters are harmful to data granularity and the meaningful extraction of data from infoboxes. The field should be restored. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:03, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

still waiting for a place where it will be used. Frietjes (talk) 20:22, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

1st Hum Awards. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:19, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

there is no single top award as I explained above. Frietjes (talk) 14:23, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Next and Last

Some film awards does not use number of the ceremony, but use the year of occurrence. Like ABC Awards 2014 not 5th ABC Awards. In such case the Next and Last fields does not work. I think this infobox should be modified to handle these cases, by including LastYear and NextYear fields. --SlowPhoton (talk) 15:23, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

no need for new fields, just use |last=[[ABC Awards 2011|2011]] or |last_link= or whatever. I fixed the documentation here. Frietjes (talk) 22:11, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

New drama parameter proposal

i want you to add one more Parameter in Infobox film awards which is: best_drama_serial_popular, could you please add this parameter, as it is necessary for description in 2nd Hum Awards. You can visit this page for further description, but, it is important to mention this parameter in Template box of film Awards. And one more could you change the previous parameter best_drama_serial to best_drama_serial_jury. Please i am waiting for your action. Fushan ^{talk to Faizan} July 08, 2014, 20:36(UTC)

I've copied the above from my talk page, so see what others think. Can we find a better name for this parameter? How should it be labelled? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:08, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

@Andy Mabbett, actually in this Awarding Ceremony there are two type of Categories, Viewers and Jury Choice, Since both categories has Best Drama Serial Category, one is awarded by Jury and one is awarded on the basis of Public voting. So one should be labelled Best Drama serial Jury and other should be Best Drama Serial Popular. There is need of only one Parameter which is Best Drama Serial Popular and other just needed the addition of Jury means Best Drama Serial Jury. Fushan ^{talk to Faizan} July 08, 2014, 22:41 (UTC)

Question regarding fields

{{{number}}}th {{{award}}}
Best Drama Serial	foo
Best Drama Serial Popular	bar

• What does the "Organizer" field represent? I checked to see if maybe the 87th Academy Awards has it but its not used there. Is that supposed to be the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (in the Academy example)? or something else?
• The description for |award_link= says "Article describing the award", however |award= also links to the award article. Is this a link for a page regarding the actual award (item) or a redundant field?
• I've noticed that in the code there are more fields that are listed than in the documentation. Is that on purpose? (the 87th Academy Awards for example has a Pre-show field).
• Regarding the |preshow= field, I'm assuming from looking over the Academy Awards pages that it's for pre-show hosts. "Pre-show" by itself isn't a very descriptive title. Can this be changed to Pre-show host(s)?
• "Host" is also only in plural. Can this be changed to "Host(s)"? Gonnym (talk) 21:35, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
• Are |best_picture_link=, |best_film_link=, |best_direction_film=, |best_actor_link= and |best_actress_link= needed? Is it not recommended just linking to the article in the regular non-"_link" field? --Gonnym (talk) 22:31, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Gonnym, (1) this template is used for more than just the Academy Awards, the |organizer= is most likely being used by a different award series; (2) the documentation is almost certainly behind in documenting the parameters that have been jammed into this template; (3) if you would like to see how a particular field is being used, you can always add a tracking category to find uses; (4) for major awards, the _link fields are not needed, however the idea was that this could be set for non-major awards, however it's not clear anyone is using these parameters, again a tracking category would help answer that question. Frietjes (talk) 23:13, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
    • I didn't mean its only used for Academy Awards, it was just an example so I can understand the parameter is for. I looked at your latest tracking additions and Category:Pages using infobox film awards with the preshow parameter is currently empty, even though I know the Academy Awards uses that one (I'm not strong with coding so I have no idea why it isn't working).--Gonnym (talk) 23:50, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
      • Gonnym, tracking categories don't fill instantly. you have to wait for the pages to be recached. Frietjes (talk) 23:55, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
        • Good to know, thanks for explaining! --Gonnym (talk) 23:59, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
• After looking over the fields it seems |award_org= |presenting_org= and |organizer= might be the same, with |presenting_org= having the better wording - "Presented by" (compared to "Awarded by" and "Organizer"). Also, seems |date= and |presented_date= are for the same thing. --Gonnym (talk) 10:12, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
  • yes, good to check those as well. hopefully the tracking categories will finish filling before too long. Frietjes (talk) 14:52, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
  • so far, looks like various label _link parameters (with the exception of award_link) were only being used by the Annie Awards. I updated the link template and the articles, so we should be able to remove all the _link parameters except for the 'award_link' parameter. Frietjes (talk) 16:10, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
• If the categories are not going to get any bigger then we have 109 articles that use |organizer=, 68 articles that use |presenting_org= and 46 that use |award_org=. Both |organizer= and |presenting_org= are for the orginization presetng the awards, while |award_org= is for a specific individual presenting them. I'm really not sure |award_org= is needed as most (almost all) awards have numerous people giving different awards in each ceremony. Also not sure what "Best Book", "Best Critic" and "award_link" are. --Gonnym (talk) 14:00, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
• |best_drama_serial= won't appear if |best_drama_serial_popular= is also entered. Not sure if this is an issue or not, but from their name they don't seem to appear to be the same award. Might be a bug? |viewership= and |ratings= is one preferred over the other? --Gonnym (talk) 14:22, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Gonnym I will purge the list of transclusions with "User:Frietjes/masspurge.js" in a moment. after that finishes, we can be sure the tracking categories are up-to-date. Frietjes (talk) 14:29, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
  • not sure what you mean concerning |best_drama_serial= and |best_drama_serial_popular= (see example). the template attempts to link to |award= as the main award page, unless |award_link= is provided. for an example see 42nd Annie Awards. Frietjes (talk) 14:36, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
    • Oh, my mistake. It seems the problem is at label24 which is for both |best_british= and |best_drama_serial=. Also label25 is for both |best_drama_serial_popular= and |free_award_type=. I assume that is what's blocking these set of parameters from appearing in the template together. 42nd Annie Awards |award= is Annie Awards and |award_link= is Annie Award, both link to the same page. If this is all the award_link parameter does then it seems redundant and if its actually needed in a infobox it might be because of wrong article naming by the editor as I can't think of when an award is never "X Award" or "X Awards". --Gonnym (talk) 15:27, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
    • Found an example at 62nd National Film Awards. --Gonnym (talk) 15:41, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
  • as far as ratings/viewership goes, I believe that's an English variation. Frietjes (talk) 14:37, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
• Another question, shouldn't this template be merged with {{Infobox award}}? It seems this template is used only (or mostly) in ceremony pages, while {{Infobox award}} is used for the main award page and award category pages. It also has most of the same fields except some of the specific category ones (which can either be merged or converted to use one of the 5 free award types).--Gonnym (talk) 19:56, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Proposed changes

Organizerand Presenting_org

Regarding |organizer= and |presenting_org=, I much prefer the label of the |presenting_org=, "Presented by", compared to "Organizer" and also its location in the template (at the top, compared to at the bottom). --Gonnym (talk) 13:48, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Date Presented_date

Regarding |date= and |presented_date=, I prefer the label of |presented_date=, "Presented on", compared to "Date". --Gonnym (talk) 14:00, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Preshow

Change the table to "Pre-show host(s), as "Pre-show" does not make it clear what this field is. --Gonnym (talk) 14:00, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Plural fields

Change "Host", "Producer" and "Director" plural friendlier form "Host(s)", "Producer(s)" and "Director(s)" --Gonnym (talk) 14:00, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Lifetime achievement

Move |lifetime_achievement= to the bottom above "Gold award". --Gonnym (talk) 14:00, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Best British

This should be name changed to best_british_film as that's what it actually is. Pretty sure this bad naming is my doing when I first began. --Gonnym (talk) 15:28, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure on how many non-BAFTA-related pages this template is used, but the BAFTAs call that award Outstanding British Film. The parameter name, and in particular the label given to it, ought to properly reflect the award's title. If there's cause to have a distinct "Best British Film" parameter for other ceremonies, perhaps a new parameter could be created for Outstanding British Film, for use on BAFTA pages. —Hugh (talk) 03:04, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

award and award_link

Looks like two fields, award and award_link, are not working the way they are expected to. Take a look at 1st National Film Awards. The infobox has both the links, however only only award link appears at the bottom panel and not desired link. In this case, award is a disamb page which should be a label and award_link should be a link to the desired page. - Vivvt (Talk) 17:46, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Change "Preshow host(s)" to "Preshow hosts" and add "Preshow host"

Because I think "(s)" is unnecessary. Add "Preshow host" instead. Hddty. (talk) 14:17, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Golden Globes

So at the moment the pages for the Golden Globe Awards do not have a template. They use a horrendous hard-coded thing. I was going to make a custom template but seems silly since so much of it will be the same as this template. There are a few things that need to be added though. Just wanted to make sure that there aren't any objections. :-) --Zackmann08 (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 01:07, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

After looking into this some more, looks like it would need a pretty sizeable refactor due to the fact that the Golden Globes separate out Drama from Comedy/Musical. @Grapesoda22 and Frietjes: as recent contributors... Any thoughts or preference? --Zackmann08 (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 01:25, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

@Zackmann08: If the changes to this template would be "sizeable" it might be better to just make a separate template. Grapesoda22 (✉) 03:15, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

@Grapesoda22: it looks like User:Frietjes took care of it already. --Zackmann08 (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 05:40, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 March 2019

could you please add the parameter "Music by" in this template. Humptygocart (talk) 18:14, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: According to the page's protection level you should be able to edit the page yourself. If you seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. Gangster8192 01:19, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 December 2023

I have been modifying some articles relating to the now-defunct Stinkers Bad Movie Awards, but the "Film Awards" infobox hasn't been accommodated, as it displays "Worst Film" as "Best Film", when clearly that wasn't the case of the Stinkers to begin with. After some trial and error, I think I've found the code I would like you to include:

| Stinkers Bad Movie Awards = {{#switch:{{{label}}}
  | Worst Picture
  | Best Picture = Worst Picture
  | Worst Film
  | Best Film = Worst Film
  | #default = {{{label}}}
}}

To keep things alphabetical, this section should be placed underneath the code for the "[Golden] Satellite Awards". Please, and thank you! --The-Psychid (talk) 05:21, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

@The-Psychid:  Done. This is certainly easier than using |free_award= and |free_award_type= every time. TGHL ↗ 🍁 21:02, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that. Although I'm wondering if the section should be changed to "Worst Picture", as opposed to "Worst Film", to keep things consistent. (I know for certain that for the Golden Raspberry Awards, the top part always says "Worst Picture", as opposed to "Worst Film". Fret not, for this should be the last time I bother you with this little nitpick. --The-Psychid (talk) 01:59, 3 January 2024 (UTC)