Template talk:History of Brandenburg and Prussia

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Based on drafts at Wikipedia:WikiProject Prussia/Template:History of Prussia. Olessi 14:52, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed this template was sticking on the left near the bottom of another infobox rather than floating below it, which was leaving a big ugly empty space. So I gave it the infobox class like it should have all along, and CSS-ified it to boot. Now it behaves properly. Hairy Dude (talk) 22:00, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A suggestion: include the current RU/PL/LT territories (or their parts) or exclude Old Prussians (if one makes this template only Germanic)

Ok, this land (Prussia, or however one called it during the times) went through many languages, religions and ethnicity changes. If Old Prussians are included (i.e. non-Germanic peoples), then why does one leave the empty place at the bottom of the template, where it should be partitioned between Russia (Kaliningrad Oblast), Poland and Lithuania (Memelland)? If only territories with the mainly German-speaking peoples are included in this template, then the Old Prussians must be left out.

On the other hand, people did not disappear overnight after the government changed and in the past people rather intermixed and so on rather than massive deportations and world wars of the current ages. People learnt new languages, immigrated/emigrated and so on, also diseases played much greater role than now. Only the 19th century end, 20th century produced true nationalism in this area, in my opinion, but before people somehow lived together inspite of religious/ethnic (whatever "ethnicity" could mean)/linguistic differences.

In my opinion, this region was a significant cultural center for all four nations/ethnicities/languages: German/Germans(Germanic) (from the 12-14th century), Russian/Russians (only later, 20th century 2nd half mainly), Polish/Polish, Lithuanian/Lithuanians (once they replaced Prussians and their language) (and Baltic people, like Old Prussians). Therefore, the empty places should be filled with the corresponding places of nowadays. In a sense, this place was a melting pot till nationalism came, in my opinion. Kazkaskazkasako (talk) 17:52, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]