Template talk:Country data Croatia

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Proposal

It has been proposed on commons that Image:Flag of Croatia.svg should not be used as an icon but instead of it should be used Image:Flag of Croatia icon.svg.

This is because the ratio of 2:3 is more visible. I think that this change would not lead to mass production of such icon files. Even if such event should happen it would be an advantage for all those flags that couldn't be readable if 1:2 or even more discrepancy ratio is applied.

I hope that for the sake of the icons we could agree on most visible or readable ratio and use 2:3 ratio for all icons, but this is long way into the future.

Croatia should be a starting point.

Imbris (talk) 00:53, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1:2 ratio is fine. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 05:49, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why, if 2:3 would be better for the end-users point of view. -- Imbris (talk) 19:22, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can still see the checkers in the middle, plus, the main point is the text to the side of the flag. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 19:26, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The template can be modified so that correct text "Croatia" or whatever text appears (like Republic of Croatia, Croatian, Croatian Portal) or whatever text that is needed. I have noticed that almost no one have noticed that users (on commons) suggested usage of 2:3 ratio for better visibility purposes. -- Imbris (talk) 19:38, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Because as a commons sysop, we just worry if the flag is accurate, not what the other projects want. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 19:48, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. But why don't make this tiny change. If someone should object you can always revert it. The change is currently in place on commons (Template:CRO and Template:HRV). -- Imbris (talk) 19:53, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template needs repairs

Flag of Croatia 1944-1945

Flag of Croatia 1945-1992

The template sorely needs improvement. I'm requesting an unblock.

Background historical info:
- The flag of Croatia in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia was this, the one of the Banovina of Croatia. This flag was instituted officially in 1939 (hence "{{flagicon|Croatia|1939}}")
- In 1941 the Kingdom of Yugoslavia was placed under Axis occupation, but did not cease to exist. The puppet Independent State of Croatia with this flag (the one currently under "Croatia|1941") was created by the Nazis on occupied Yugoslav territory. This state was a completely illegal and illegitimate entity that is not recognized as succeeding Croatian state. The flag of Croatia continued to be that of the Banovina of Croatia.
- In 1943 the status of Croatia within Yugoslavia changed as the Yugoslav resistance reorganized it into the Federal State of Croatia. Its flag was of the Federal State of Croatia.png this, and it was instituted by the Yugoslav state in 1944 (hence "{{flagicon|Croatia|1944}}").
- In 1945 the flag of Croatia was changed into of the Socialist Republic of Croatia.svg this (hence "{{flagicon|Croatia|1945}}").

The current state of affairs on this template is arranged as if the Ustaše flag of the Nazi-puppet Independent State of Croatia (NDH) was the flag of Croatia instituted in 1941. This is incorrect. Proposed changes:
- The Ustaše flag of Croatia should be listed as "{{flagicon|Croatia|NDH}}" or "{{flagicon|Croatia|Ustase}}". Clicking on the flag should NOT link to Croatia but to the Independent State of Croatia article.
- The 1939 flag of Croatia should be introduced into the article as "{{flagicon|Croatia|1939}}". It should (maybe) link to the Banovina of Croatia article rather than to the Croatia article.
- The 1944 flag of Croatia should be introduced into the article as "{{flagicon|Croatia|1944}}". It should (maybe) link to the Socialist Republic of Croatia article rather than to the Croatia article.
- The 1945 flag of Croatia is fine, but it should maybe link the Socialist Republic of Croatia article rather than to the Croatia article.

That said, I could use some help on how to exactly perform these edits, though I will probably figure it out. :) --DIREKTOR ^(TALK) 14:26, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I stumbled across the edits made on May 28 and July 5, and have had to make several repairs. First, template parameter names cannot be renamed or deleted without updating all articles that use the old names. The deletion of flag alias-1941 and the rename of flag alias-1947 broke the images used on about 80–100 articles, which I have spent several hours fixing.

The other point is DIREKTOR's request to make flag images link to alternate article names. You can't do that with a single flag template; you need additional templates. Therefore Template:Country data Independent State of Croatia is now used instead of the old 1941 variant, and Template:Country data SR Croatia is now used instead of the 1947/1945 variant names.

Lastly, I have deferred the creation of Template:Country data Banovina of Croatia, Template:Country data Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia, and/or Template:Country data Federal State of Croatia for now, since none of those flag images are used in icon form in this encyclopedia. This is a widely-used meta-template, not an image gallery in article space, so we only need to include images when they are actually needed for icon use.

Hope this makes sense! — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 00:04, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can't talk much now, will just say that Template:Country data SR Croatia is unnecessary in my view: Croatia = SR Croatia --DIREKTOR ^(TALK) 00:14, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is necessary to fulfill your request that the flag should (maybe) link to the Socialist Republic of Croatia article rather than to the Croatia article. I believe that is a more useful link, for the articles on which it is used. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 00:26, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 20 June 2018

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Change template army link to Croatian Army. Skjoldbro (talk) 09:22, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Had to create the parameter |link alias-army=, but done now:

{army|Croatia}} → Croatian Army

Cheers --RexxS (talk) 14:01, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 20 September 2020

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Create template military link to Republic of Croatia Armed Forces (probably by creating the parameter |link alias-military=, to result in {armed forces|Croatia}}?). — Sundostund (talk) 19:02, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

To editor Sundostund:

done, and thank you! P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 01:14, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

To editor Paine Ellsworth: I am the one who should thank you for doing this so promptly. — Sundostund (talk) 06:28, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 21 September 2020

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Create template air force link to Croatian Air Force (probably by creating the parameter |link alias-air force=, to result in {air force|Croatia}}?). — Sundostund (talk) 19:47, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

To editor Sundostund:

done, and thanks again! P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 23:23, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I also have two additional suggestions (maybe I should put it as a separate request, but lets try it this way) – can you remove flags at {armed forces|Croatia}}, {army|Croatia}} and {navy|Croatia}}, and place their respective emblems (File:Seal of the Armed Forces of Croatia.png, File:Seal of Croatian Army.png and File:Seal of Croatian Navy.png) instead? Also, can you create template air force link to Croatian Air Force (probably by creating the parameter |link alias-air force=, to result in {air force|Croatia}}), and place File:Seal of Croatian Air Force.png there?
— Sundostund (talk) 06:28, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

...and curious about the above where you suggest to replace the flags with seals. This might be something that requires garnering consensus, I'm not sure. So was wondering why the seals rather than the flags? Not questioning your deeds here, Sundostund, because so far they're superb improvements. It's just that while I know how to edit templates, I don't really know a lot about Croatia and need your help to understand. P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 23:23, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

To editor Paine Ellsworth: Once more, thank you for dealing with this in such a prompt way, and for describing my work here in such flattering terms... As for the seals rather than the flags, my idea was simply to place an appropriate seal (clearly representing that military branch) into a template, instead of just having the country's flag there. It does not have some particular connection with Croatia, its just a general idea of mine. But, as you pointed out, that might be something that requires garnering consensus, and that's one of reasons why I dropped that idea. — Sundostund (talk) 23:56, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

To editor Sundostund: thought we'd try the seals to see if others have a ready opinion. Hope you don't mind. P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 00:58, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

To editor Paine Ellsworth: Of course I don't mind. It looks great IMHO, and I hope others won't object it... In any case, WP:BOLD is a part of working here, and should be used from time to time. — Sundostund (talk) 06:01, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 31 July 2022

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Please add the exact flag of the Croatian Army by creating the parameter |flag alias-army= with File:Flag of Croatian Army.svg. —Sundostund (talk) 20:51, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:45, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]