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Revert

I reverted my addition of MD & WV - There are also articles for PA & NY & probably more - but no nav template for them --JimWae (talk) 08:36, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Simplified template

I took away the category of "Dual Governments", it seemed a bit complicated for a template and better handled on the individual state pages. For example, West Virginia could just as easily be listed under "Dual Governments", since most of the county officials remained loyal to Richmond, and most of western Virginia's assembleymen and Senators elected in May 1861 were in Richmond representing their counties in the General Assembly. So you can see it is a complicated issue, not suited to a template. I hope my change seems reasonable.Dubyavee (talk) 01:57, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. Missouri and Kentucky had governments recognized by the CSA. Reverting...--King Bedford I ^{Seek his grace} 02:13, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think you have shown how inappropriate that designation is in a template. The Confederate government didn't recognize the partition of Virginia so West Virginia should be moved into the Confederacy section under Virginia? The template as is looks a little ridiculous. A template is meant to be an easy navigator for users and I think it has been compromised.Dubyavee (talk) 05:22, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Simplified template again

The template was changed by an anonymous user some weeks ago and no one bothered to fix it. As I stated in the paragraphs above, the use of "Dual Governments" as a catagory was too complicated, and I've never seen that category used in any book on the war. And, as I said above, West Virginia also had dual government, elected state senators and delegates sat in the Richmond legislature from 1861 to 1865. So if we move all these states into the "Dual Governments" category, then all we have left as Border States are Maryland and Delaware. Dubyavee (talk) 05:44, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

West Virginia

Why is West Virginia listed? West Virginia was never joined the Confederacy. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 08:18, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's on the list because of the large number of Confederate counties in the state, counties that voted in favor of secession from the United States. See this map ^[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dubyavee (talk • contribs) 19:57, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think West Virginia belongs on the list of states; that is, IF you are going to keep Kentucky and Missouri on the list, West Virginia was more supportive of the Confederacy than either of those two states. It is the only state of the three which didn't give most of its men to the Union.(Mark A. Snell, "West Virginia and the Civil War", History Press, 2011, pg. 28) Also large parts of the state had voted in a popular vote to secede from the Union, which no part of MO of KY did. Also most of the counties were represented in the Virginia General Assembly. I will restore WV to the list for those reasons, and if consensus is for removing "Dual Government" from the template I do not object. Dubyavee (talk) 17:08, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Louisiana

After the fall of New Orleans, and the southeastern part of the state being under Union control, representatives from that area were sent to the U.S. Congress. Does that not fall under the definition of "Duel Governments"? Otr500 (talk) 12:26, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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