Template talk:Cite NSW SHR

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needs more

fn and ln are documented but not implemented
hr is implemented but not documented Dave Rave (talk) 06:42, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

access url

might need an access change, the current new map view goes to

https://www.hms.heritage.nsw.gov.au/App/Item/ViewItem?itemId={{{id}}}

which I'm not thrilled to look at but the old way might disappear Dave Rave (talk) 06:24, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

is creative commons attribution really required in this template?

At this edit (diff), Editor Marcnut1996 added creative commons 4.0 attribution. I stumbled upon this template's use at Wahroonga, New South Wales § References where there are a dozen instances of this template. None of the uses in that article, or in a sampling of other articles that use the template, are used for attribution. In other words, the template is used for citation and nothing more.

Is creative commons attribution really required in this template? If so, why?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 00:47, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Trappist the monk: I added the attribution to the template because 1. the creative commons attribution is true, and 2. a number of articles (such as Cootamundra World War II Fuel Depot, and there are probably others) were straight copy and paste from the SHR, which is allowable under the commons attribution. Happy to be removed if there is a consensus among everyone. Marcnut1996 (talk) 02:23, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't that what {{NSW-SHR-CC}} at Cootamundra World War II Fuel Depot § Attribution does? For articles that derive from from SHR, it seems to me that {{NSW-SHR-CC}} is all that is required for attribution.

{{cite NSW SHR}} should be used for citing statements in en.wiki's voice to SHR. For that usecase, the attribution text should be omitted from its rendering. I can imagine that it might be desirable to import a significant amount of text from SHR. If {{cite NSW SHR}} were changed so that the default rendering is without the attribution text, we could add a specific parameter (|attribution=yes or somesuch) to force the template to render the attribution text.

And why does {{NSW-SHR-CC}} have hyphens when {{cite NSW SHR}} does not. Perhaps {{NSW-SHR-CC}} should be moved to {{NSW SHR CC}}?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 13:18, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]