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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 03:06, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
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Yves Agid
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that French neurologist Yves Agid (pictured) has won the grand prix?
Created by Skr15081997 (talk). Self nominated at 02:52, 27 July 2014 (UTC).
Article is new enough (created July 26), long enough and uses in-line citations. Image is appropriately licensed. QPQ satisfied. The hook fact is short enough. However, the hook fact is problematic for at least a couple reasons. First, the fact is not mentioned anywhere in the body of the article, just in a list of awards. Second, the hook is inherently confusing when it refers to "the grand prix", as there is no single award known as "the grand prix." In fact, the award he received, per the cited source, was a "Grand Prix Inserm de la Recherche Médicale (2001)." I appreciate the desire to be hooky and to attract views to an article about a significant scientist, but Agid is not a "grand prix" driver, and the hook as written is vague and potentially misleading. Hook needs to be clarified. Cbl62 (talk) 16:47, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
- @Cbl62: The hook fact has been added in the "career" section of the article. I am proposing another hook to avoid the confusion;
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that in 2001 French Institute of Health and Medical Research awarded the Grand Prize of medical research to neurologist Yves Agid (pictured)?--Skr15081997 (talk) 08:55, 3 August 2014 (UTC)There's still a disconnect in that: (1) the article has been amended to say he received "the Grand prix de l'INSERM", (2) the alt hook has been amended to say that he was awarded "the Grand Prize of medical research", and (3) the actual source says he received a "Grand Prix Inserm de la Recherche Médicale". Even allowing for issues of translation and inconsistent use of capitalization, these don't seem to match. I suggest either using the actual source language in both the article in the hook. Thoughts? Cbl62 (talk) 15:15, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
- Perhaps the following alternatives would be acceptable.
- alt 2 ... that the French Institute of Health and Medical Research awarded its "Grand Prix" for medical research to neurologist Yves Agid (pictured)?
- alt 3 ... that French neurologist Yves Agid (pictured) was awarded the "Grand Prix Inserm de la Recherche Médicale" Cbl62 (talk) 15:22, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
- alt 4 ... that in 2001 the French Institute of Health and Medical Research awarded its "Grand Prix" for medical research to neurologist Yves Agid (pictured)?
- @Cbl62:The necessary changes have been made in the article. How about the above hook.--Skr15081997 (talk) 15:59, 3 August 2014 (UTC)