Template:Did you know nominations/Velaslavasay Panorama

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:12, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Velaslavasay Panorama

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... that the first full-circle Arctic panorama in the United States since the nineteenth century appeared at the Velaslavasay Panorama in Los Angeles in 2007? Source: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Velaslavsay_Panorama#cite_note-1

Created by Clevelander96 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:16, 23 November 2016 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: ~~Issues still need to addressed.~~ GTG. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 03:21, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

The two book sources need ISBNs to make sure that they are not self-published and reliable. Also I have added a couple of {{cn}} tags that needs to be addressed. Done sources added
Although the hook is cited, the source needs ISBN as said above.Done
QPQ Done. This is nominator's first DYK. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 14:28, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

@Clevelander96: As the source for the hook claim is not online, please could you provide a quotation from the cited source. Any "first"-type claim needs careful scrutiny before being used in a hook in case the fact is challenged. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:56, 13 December 2016 (UTC) Done Clevelander96 (talk) 20:11, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

I actually meant quote the cited source here on the nomination template, but no matter. Its not clear whether the source was referring to the US or to the world. However the source does mention that the Velaslavasay Panorama is the "first fixed full-circle panorama of the Arctic" so we need "Arctic" in the hook claim. It might be best to have a different hook altogether because "first"-type claims are always tricky to get right, and this one is a bit nebulous. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:24, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

I'm happy with adding Arctic -- have done so in the statement in the article as well as in the claim -- I think that adds to the interest, and unlikely to be challenged -- the fact that the VP is a revival of a long-dormant subject and format is the most notable thing about it. Hope that makes sense. Clevelander96 (talk) 16:55, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Should not the hook say 2007 rather than 2001? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:23, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Yes, now that we've limited the claim to Arctic panoramas, that's correct. Thanks for catching that -- I've corrected it. Clevelander96 (talk) 18:18, 19 December 2016 (UTC)